C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size Forum

[cannibal ox]

Do we have a google doc to track new medians?

Here is a google doc if anyone wants to go crazy with it: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... XZnc#gid=0

[ScottRiqui]

Do we have a google doc to track new medians?

In the first post, if you're talking about 2016 medians:

[manofjustice]

Do we have a google doc to track new medians?

In the first post, if you're talking about 2016 medians:

Oh shit...thanks!

[TheJanitor6203]

The medians could be slightly different but Harvard lists their 50th percentiles for C/O 2016 as 3.88 and 173

http://www.law.harvard.edu/prospective/ ... ofile.html

[cotiger]

The medians could be slightly different but Harvard lists their 50th percentiles for C/O 2016 as 3.88 and 173

http://www.law.harvard.edu/prospective/ ... ofile.html

50th percentile is what a median is.

[TheJanitor6203]

The medians could be slightly different but Harvard lists their 50th percentiles for C/O 2016 as 3.88 and 173

http://www.law.harvard.edu/prospective/ ... ofile.html

50th percentile is what a median is.

Interesting.. all this time I thought the percentile was an average.

[hephaestus]

The medians could be slightly different but Harvard lists their 50th percentiles for C/O 2016 as 3.88 and 173

http://www.law.harvard.edu/prospective/ ... ofile.html

50th percentile is what a median is.

Interesting.. all this time I thought the percentile was an average.

No, thats a mean. The median is the 50th percentile.

[cotiger]

The medians could be slightly different but Harvard lists their 50th percentiles for C/O 2016 as 3.88 and 173

http://www.law.harvard.edu/prospective/ ... ofile.html

50th percentile is what a median is.

Interesting.. all this time I thought the percentile was an average.

If a score is in the xth percentile, that means that that score is greater than x% of all other scores. That's why even a 180 on the LSAT is only the 99.9th percentile. To be completely accurate, schools use quartiles instead of percentiles, but it's close enough to the same thing.

[Huskies13!]

Penn is up (don't think I saw this here yet)
https://www.law.upenn.edu/admissions/jd ... rofile.php
no medians but class size is 251.

[Huskies13!]

Rutgers (Newark)
http://law.newark.rutgers.edu/quick-facts
No medians--195 entering class

[Humbert Humbert]

The medians could be slightly different but Harvard lists their 50th percentiles for C/O 2016 as 3.88 and 173

http://www.law.harvard.edu/prospective/ ... ofile.html

Those numbers are identical to c/o 2015, are they not?. Even 25/50/75 GPAs.

[Huskies13!]

Ohio State--no class size
http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/admissions/jd/

160 (-2) LSAT
3.65 (+.01?)

[TheJanitor6203]

I got bored at work...

(56) American U 157/3.42/397
(61) Pepperdine 160/3.59/201
(68) University of Louisville 155/3.31/130
(68) University of Nevada- Las Vegas 158/3.45/114
(94) Marquette 155/3.29/193FT/19PT
(98) University of South Carolina 155/3.27/208
(98) St. John’s University 156/3.39/263
(>100) DePaul University 154
(>100) Gonzaga University 154/3.26/108
(>100) William Mitchell College of Law 153/3.36
(>100) University of San Francisco 158/3.8

[wolfgang]

(>100) University of San Francisco 158/3.8

^ Not to be a bother, but I hope that was a typo

Looks like university of san francisco's 50th is 3.38.

Yeah... my 3 key doesn't work that well, either. But you gave me a heart attack for a hot second there!

[TheJanitor6203]

(>100) University of San Francisco 158/3.8

^ Not to be a bother, but I hope that was a typo

Looks like university of san francisco's 50th is 3.38.

Yeah... my 3 key doesn't work that well, either. But you gave me a heart attack for a hot second there!

Lol sorry about that

[ScottRiqui]

I asked this in a different thread, but didn't get any traction:

Does it say anything about a school or its admission strategy when the median and 75th percentile LSAT scores are extremely close to one another compared to the 25th percentile and the median? Something like 161/166/167?

[TheJanitor6203]

Found a few more..

(19) Minnesota- Twin Cities 167/3.8/205
(48) Florida State University 159/3.51/170
Drake Law 153/3.23/113
Mercer Law 152/3.38/187
CUNY 154/3.37/104
Florida International 156/3.58/135
Howard 154/3.4

[Ramius]

I asked this in a different thread, but didn't get any traction:

Does it say anything about a school or its admission strategy when the median and 75th percentile LSAT scores are extremely close to one another compared to the 25th percentile and the median? Something like 161/166/167?

Generally speaking I think this is indicative of heavy median gaming. If both your median and 75th are almost identical and the 25th is significantly lower, it shows splitters and reverse splitters were heavily utilized to maintain the median numbers where they are.

[Tiago Splitter]

I asked this in a different thread, but didn't get any traction:

Does it say anything about a school or its admission strategy when the median and 75th percentile LSAT scores are extremely close to one another compared to the 25th percentile and the median? Something like 161/166/167?

It means they game the rankings. Not necessarily anything wrong with that, but schools with those kinds of breakdowns are clearly trying to get the highest possible LSAT/GPA medians.

3.8/167 for Minnesota is impressive. BTW, Minnesota is a classic rankings gamer, with splits of 158/167/168 and 3.36/3.8/3.89.

EDIT: Minnesota's numbers are still for last year.

[Nova]

Those Minnesota numbers are from my class. (2015)

[Nova]

+1 to tiago and matt

Gaming medians.

[Ramius]

I asked this in a different thread, but didn't get any traction:

Does it say anything about a school or its admission strategy when the median and 75th percentile LSAT scores are extremely close to one another compared to the 25th percentile and the median? Something like 161/166/167?

Generally speaking I think this is indicative of heavy median gaming. If both your median and 75th are almost identical and the 25th is significantly lower, it shows splitters and reverse splitters people who should have retaken were heavily utilized to maintain the median numbers where they are.

Had to fix that for myself.

[wolfgang]

Found a few more..

(19) Minnesota- Twin Cities 167/3.8/205
(48) Florida State University 159/3.51/170
Drake Law 153/3.23/113
Mercer Law 152/3.38/187
CUNY 154/3.37/104
Florida International 156/3.58/135
Howard 154/3.4

crap man. killer work, thanks!

singlehandedly doing all the research for this thread. awesome

[Nova]

Yeah, thx Jan.

TLSing on the clock rocks, amirite?

[jbagelboy]

UMN couldnt have stuck a 167 median the way they were throwing out splitter $ offers to 166 and 165