C/O 2017 Median LSAT/GPA/Class Size Forum

[rebexness]

The one on the front page is the good one. I'll update it now! Sorry guys, busy week.

no excuses

I mean I spent part of the day sedated and part of the day thinking I might perhaps be a turtle, so IDK.

SPREADSHEET IS NOW UTD.

including fixing any data from last year that was incorrect (WVU etc)

[ThePlanMan]

Something is up with Pepperdine's stats. 153/150/162. 160 median maybe?

[Huskies13!]

No medians, but Tulane's class size is way down.
http://www.law.tulane.edu/tlsNews/newsI ... x?id=18627

[Huskies13!]

UMKC is up:
http://info.umkc.edu/lawnews/

[Attax]

That guy on bottom right made me lol.

[chuckbass]

No medians, but Tulane's class size is way down.
http://www.law.tulane.edu/tlsNews/newsI ... x?id=18627

Yea but it states that medians are up. Overall seems good for them. How many lawyers does Louisiana need?

[Rigo]

No medians, but Tulane's class size is way down.
http://www.law.tulane.edu/tlsNews/newsI ... x?id=18627

Yea but it states that medians are up. Overall seems good for them. How many lawyers does Louisiana need?

Seems like a larger chunk intend to practice in Louisiana. 40% doing the civil law track this year compared to only 18% in 2009.

[Bilka]

NDLS Class Profile Page is down - should see update soon.

http://law.nd.edu/admissions/class-profile/

[RachelZane13]

Fordham also under construction http://law.fordham.edu/admissions/jdadmissions.htm

[ms9]

Is the spreadsheet in the first post on page 1 the one getting updated? I'm having dinner Friday with the dean of the law school. I'd love to show him the spreadsheet so that he gives us his stats, but want to share the most updated one possible and I feel like there may be a link or something I am missing. Thanks!

Ugh get me WUSTL stats plz.

166, 3.62 now backoff!

[rebexness]

FINALLY!

TYTYTYTYTYTY mike!

[should-i-do-it]

I feel like this should be on cnn right now. Definitely more news worthy than most of the stuff they've got on.

[Celtics_fan]

Why was getting WUSTL medians such a big deal to everyone? Am I missing something?

[Lord Randolph McDuff]

WUSTL paid shills.

[rebexness]

Why was getting WUSTL medians such a big deal to everyone? Am I missing something?

Because WUSTLs TLS contigent for the C/O 2017 was massive, plus the stuff they did trying to defer scads of people.

[Rigo]

Why was getting WUSTL medians such a big deal to everyone? Am I missing something?

A lot of speculation because WUSTL apparently had a huge increase in class size from last year, and administration offering increased scholarships for admitted class to defer until next year.

Also, Spivey has great connections there so he's likely to get inside info first.

It's also in the top 30 so is part of the median contest on TLS.

TLS also has a general fascination with WUSTL for some other reason (edit: what rebexness said), but the first two are the main reasons people were begging for WUSTL class profile info.

[chuckbass]

Also I post in this group every day harassing Spivey for medians. TY Spivey <3

[Bilka]

NDLS Class Profile Page is down - should see update soon.

http://law.nd.edu/admissions/class-profile/

NDLS is up


LSAT: 160/163/165 - exact same as 2013

GPS: 3.44/3.64/3.78 - small bump in each from 2013

Class Size 200 - up from 162

All stats as of 2014 1L Orientation

[star fox]

Interesting that WUSTL has a 3 point higher lsat median than Notre Dame when they have virtually identical big law placement.

[eriedoctrine]

Interesting that WUSTL has a 3 point higher lsat median than Notre Dame when they have virtually identical big law placement.

NDLS just dropped from 166->163. It seems they are now content on maintaining said 163 again this year.
As you can see, their ranking had dropped slightly from 23 -> 26 while WUSTL rose 19 -> 18. It takes a while for the hiring market to adjust in accordance with the school's rank and reputation, but it eventually will.

[star fox]

Interesting that WUSTL has a 3 point higher lsat median than Notre Dame when they have virtually identical big law placement.

NDLS just dropped from 166->163. It seems they are now content on maintaining said 163 again this year.
As you can see, their ranking had dropped slightly from 23 -> 26 while WUSTL rose 19 -> 18. It takes a while for the hiring market to adjust in accordance with the school's rank and reputation, but it eventually will.

I don't think specific sub-rankings have much effect on hiring. Notre Dame an WUSTL are going to be looked at as peer schools regardless of a few ranking spots in US News.

[eriedoctrine]

Interesting that WUSTL has a 3 point higher lsat median than Notre Dame when they have virtually identical big law placement.

NDLS just dropped from 166->163. It seems they are now content on maintaining said 163 again this year.
As you can see, their ranking had dropped slightly from 23 -> 26 while WUSTL rose 19 -> 18. It takes a while for the hiring market to adjust in accordance with the school's rank and reputation, but it eventually will.

I don't think specific sub-rankings have much effect on hiring. Notre Dame an WUSTL are going to be looked at as peer schools regardless of a few ranking spots in US News.

100% agree. All I am saying is that rankings can cause a vicious cycle, and firms will eventually recognize this as time goes by. A few years down the line, if WUSTL is say #17 while ND falls to #34, hiring will be felt. WUSTL will be progressing towards Vandy numbers, while NDLS will be more like Illinois.

[rebexness]

Please stop.

[Moneytrees]

Interesting that WUSTL has a 3 point higher lsat median than Notre Dame when they have virtually identical big law placement.

NDLS just dropped from 166->163. It seems they are now content on maintaining said 163 again this year.
As you can see, their ranking had dropped slightly from 23 -> 26 while WUSTL rose 19 -> 18. It takes a while for the hiring market to adjust in accordance with the school's rank and reputation, but it eventually will.

I don't think specific sub-rankings have much effect on hiring. Notre Dame an WUSTL are going to be looked at as peer schools regardless of a few ranking spots in US News.

100% agree. All I am saying is that rankings can cause a vicious cycle, and firms will eventually recognize this as time goes by. A few years down the line, if WUSTL is say #17 while ND falls to #34, hiring will be felt. WUSTL will be progressing towards Vandy numbers, while NDLS will be more like Illinois.

This won't happen. First of all, the rankings won't effect ND's employment in the slightest. ND has spent years developing relationships with law firms and has a pretty good reputation in the legal community. Firms aren't going to stop recruiting at Notre Dame simply because their median LSAT dropped a few points.

Furthermore, ND won't drop in the rankings because it consistently gets solid "reputation" ratings. The whole "vicious cycle" thing might be true for some schools, but it's not for ND for a variety of reasons.

[should-i-do-it]

Bros got 80 posts and thinks he knows the legal market