C/O 2017 Median LSAT/GPA/Class Size Forum

[03152016]

Brooklyn Law School dean Nicholas Allard. "We are unwavering in only admitting students who we believe will do well, pass the bar and get a job."

bls employment rate class of 2013: 56.5%

great work dean
great

[Rigo]

Iowa medians:
LSAT -- 160 (-1)
GPA -- 3.64 (+.05)

Brooklyn:
LSAT -- 156 (-3)
GPA -- 3.31 (-0.09)

Note for Spreadsheet: Iowa's class size is 141. Admin is probably pleased.

This year Brooklyn Law School, which plans to cut its tuition by 15% in 2015, increased its first-year class by 8.7%. But the median LSAT score dropped three points, to 156, and the median GPA went from 3.40 to 3.31.

Increased class size with a 3 point median drop (-5 points since class entering in 2012). They really just don't care at all do they?

[03152016]

Iowa medians:
LSAT -- 160 (-1)
GPA -- 3.64 (+.05)

Brooklyn:
LSAT -- 156 (-3)
GPA -- 3.31 (-0.09)

Note for Spreadsheet: Iowa's class size is 141. Admin is probably pleased.

This year Brooklyn Law School, which plans to cut its tuition by 15% in 2015, increased its first-year class by 8.7%. But the median LSAT score dropped three points, to 156, and the median GPA went from 3.40 to 3.31.

Increased class size with a 3 point median drop (-5 points since class entering in 2012). They really just don't care at all do they?

with the tuition cut they probably thought they had to
unless they cut schollys to make up the difference?
guess we'll find out when it's 509 time

[RunnerRunner]

How is Yale still the only t6 to have published medians!?!?!!?

Wouldn't you be itching to brag about your very own eggplant enthusiast?

Guess Harvard must not have snagged any of those coveted applicants

[Cradle6]

How is Yale still the only t6 to have published medians!?!?!!?

Wouldn't you be itching to brag about your very own eggplant enthusiast?

Guess Harvard must not have snagged any of those coveted applicants

Coveted applicants?

[RunnerRunner]

How is Yale still the only t6 to have published medians!?!?!!?

Wouldn't you be itching to brag about your very own eggplant enthusiast?

Guess Harvard must not have snagged any of those coveted applicants

Coveted applicants?

Was referencing the apparently highly desirable pool of applicants who are eggplant enthusiasts

[Monochromatic Oeuvre]

This year Brooklyn Law School, which plans to cut its tuition by 15% in 2015, increased its first-year class by 8.7%. But the median LSAT score dropped three points, to 156, and the median GPA went from 3.40 to 3.31.

"In previous years it's been higher; it's been lower; it moves around," said Brooklyn Law School dean Nicholas Allard.

Brooklyn LSAT Medians:

2011: 163
2012: 161
2013: 159
2014: 156

So yeah, it's been higher. And then lower. And then lower again. And then even lower.

[03152016]

This year Brooklyn Law School, which plans to cut its tuition by 15% in 2015, increased its first-year class by 8.7%. But the median LSAT score dropped three points, to 156, and the median GPA went from 3.40 to 3.31.

"In previous years it's been higher; it's been lower; it moves around," said Brooklyn Law School dean Nicholas Allard.

Brooklyn LSAT Medians:

2011: 163
2012: 161
2013: 159
2014: 156

So yeah, it's been higher. And then lower. And then lower again. And then even lower.

so 15% off tickets on the hindenburg basically

[Hand]

This year Brooklyn Law School, which plans to cut its tuition by 15% in 2015, increased its first-year class by 8.7%. But the median LSAT score dropped three points, to 156, and the median GPA went from 3.40 to 3.31.

"In previous years it's been higher; it's been lower; it moves around," said Brooklyn Law School dean Nicholas Allard.

Brooklyn LSAT Medians:

2011: 163
2012: 161
2013: 159
2014: 156

So yeah, it's been higher. And then lower. And then lower again. And then even lower.

7 point drop in 4 years, brutal

[AT9]

This year Brooklyn Law School, which plans to cut its tuition by 15% in 2015, increased its first-year class by 8.7%. But the median LSAT score dropped three points, to 156, and the median GPA went from 3.40 to 3.31.

"In previous years it's been higher; it's been lower; it moves around," said Brooklyn Law School dean Nicholas Allard.

Brooklyn LSAT Medians:

2011: 163
2012: 161
2013: 159
2014: 156

So yeah, it's been higher. And then lower. And then lower again. And then even lower.

7 point drop in 4 years, brutal

Especially with those scores. It's one thing to go from, say, a 170 (97th percentile) to 163 (88th percentile), but they're going from the 88th to 67th percentile.

[el madrileno]

This year Brooklyn Law School, which plans to cut its tuition by 15% in 2015, increased its first-year class by 8.7%. But the median LSAT score dropped three points, to 156, and the median GPA went from 3.40 to 3.31.

"In previous years it's been higher; it's been lower; it moves around," said Brooklyn Law School dean Nicholas Allard.

Brooklyn LSAT Medians:

2011: 163
2012: 161
2013: 159
2014: 156

So yeah, it's been higher. And then lower. And then lower again. And then even lower.

7 point drop in 4 years, brutal

Especially with those scores. It's one thing to go from, say, a 170 (97th percentile) to 163 (88th percentile), but they're going from the 88th to 67th percentile.

I agree that there is no defending a 7 point drop in 4 years. I think I would lose all faith if a T14 with a 170 median started to plummet. We know BLS doesn't care so I think to see a T14 sell out like that would be pretty disheartening. Fortunately we probably won't see that unless top UG flooded in and looked to snag spots in the T14 or T1X within a few years of opening.

[jcccc]

where the f*** is Haaavards

[jcccc]

CLS

170/172/174
3.58/3.71/3.81

382

[Rigo]

CLS

170/172/174
3.58/3.71/3.81

382

Link:
http://web.law.columbia.edu/admissions/ ... ss-profile

[Hand]

damn columbia raising those nrs like it ain't a thing

[jcccc]

damn columbia raising those nrs like it ain't a thing

yea..... wtf...
hmm

[Toby Ziegler]

CLS

170/172/174
3.58/3.71/3.81

382

Link:
http://web.law.columbia.edu/admissions/ ... ss-profile

Oh, wow.

[R. Jeeves]

CLS

170/172/174
3.58/3.71/3.81

382

Link:
http://web.law.columbia.edu/admissions/ ... ss-profile

Oh, wow.

Well that's discouraging.

[HYSorBust3]

How is that even possible?

[Hand]

How is that even possible?

Throw some good $$$$ around and voila

[180kickflip]

Definitely discouraging. For the last year or two it seems like the retake/reapply or get WE/reapply advice has been given assuming the potential delay wouldn't hurt anything. If applications are picking up, it may be getting riskier to put off applications

[TheodoreKGB]

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[should-i-do-it]

TLS seems to have really overestimated median/class size drops.

[Rigo]

TLS seems to have really overestimated median/class size drops.

Not really. The consensus was that the very top schools would hold except for Georgetown perhaps.
Outside of the T20 so far, schools have faced a class size drop and/or a median drop for the most part.m

[McAvoy]

TLS seems to have really overestimated median/class size drops.

Not really. I think most expected numbers to plateau this year.

How much do you guys think the 10% rule is affecting these numbers?

It doesn't really mean anything. That was reported a little fantastically when it came out; it hardly affects anyone.