"Home NewsThomas Hagan, ESQ. wrote:I'm pretty sure "flame" isn't a commonly known terminology in China. Good job, troll. You outed yourself.lauraleeli wrote:Just spit out what I thought to be advantages to attend GGU, then I will understand how to act next.UVA2B wrote:Horrible, horrible flame. Congrats though, you made it to 2 pages!
What may seem cynical to you can be posted by another with an intention of helping you down a path of better cost/benefit and risk management analysis, at which most people are lousy. Some backwards planning here is not a bad thing. It seems your overarching goal is to leave China. The methodology you have chosen is to attend law school. If that is your plan, GGU as a route is a poor plan. If your goal is not to leave China, but rather to be a lawyer, GGU is also a poor route to that plan. If you goal is to both be a lawyer AND leave China GGU is, again, a poor choice to achieve your goal.lauraleeli wrote:I owe you a thank you though. I am not looking for confirmation or anything. I hope someone can really persuade me or defeat me, I am really stubborn and obstinate sometimes. And I want to make best out of it. People with cynical ideas can't convince me at all. Of course, I am not saying you're cynical.galeatus wrote:You're absolutely right, but you, unlike the majority of GGU grads, need some sort of visa to live in the US, which changes everything.lauraleeli wrote:Your opinion is making some sense to me, but for some words, I think they are too extreme. I really don't care how is Chinese big law firms going to be. I only look forward to my own career path. I don't think GGU graduates are not going to live at last without entering big law firms.galeatus wrote:Please DO NOT DO THIS. You can't register this type of work as OPT with your school (as it is unlikely that it can be considered relevant to your field of study that is law), which renders it as illegal employment and there have been multiple cases lately of students being refused re-entry into the US and having their visas revoked due to illegal employment. It will look especially bad if you are considering a legal career.lauraleeli wrote: Thank you very much for your analysis, it has been very helpful to me. I am actually thinking retake now already. I am just saying that 40K+10k covers my tuition, other costs I may prepare myself before I go to USA. Especially GGU has Honors Lawyering Program (“HLP”) and First Summer Trial and Evidence Program (“1st STEP”), and I have been enrolled by both programs, so I think I can start to work since 2L, therefore I might finance my life expenses. Also I can do some part time work such as translation to tip up myself a little bit.
Speaking as a compatriot, please, for the love of god, retake and do not attend GGU, no matter how attractive the scholly options may seem. It is very unlikely for you to be able to remain in the US on a H1b upon graduation from GGU, and if you want to marry a US citizen, you don't have to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to download Tinder. I will also add that a GGU degree won't help much in helping you find a decent job back in China either - even the bigger Chinese firms (think KWM/Dentons) now pretty much only hire grads from T1 law schools.
Also, these aren't exactly opinions, I was just trying to lay some facts out for you as a bit of a warning (as was many others ITT), but it seems clear that you've made your mind up already and are merely trying to get some sort of confirmation from a forum that is famous for telling 170/3.8 applicants to retake - good luck with that.
What are the rules about working during law school? Isn't there like an hours limit or something? And where do summer positions apply to this?galeatus wrote:Please DO NOT DO THIS. You can't register this type of work as OPT with your school (as it is unlikely that it can be considered relevant to your field of study that is law), which renders it as illegal employment and there have been multiple cases lately of students being refused re-entry into the US and having their visas revoked due to illegal employment. It will look especially bad if you are considering a legal career.lauraleeli wrote: Thank you very much for your analysis, it has been very helpful to me. I am actually thinking retake now already. I am just saying that 40K+10k covers my tuition, other costs I may prepare myself before I go to USA. Especially GGU has Honors Lawyering Program (“HLP”) and First Summer Trial and Evidence Program (“1st STEP”), and I have been enrolled by both programs, so I think I can start to work since 2L, therefore I might finance my life expenses. Also I can do some part time work such as translation to tip up myself a little bit.
Speaking as a compatriot, please, for the love of god, retake and do not attend GGU, no matter how attractive the scholly options may seem. It is very unlikely for you to be able to remain in the US on a H1b upon graduation from GGU, and if you want to marry a US citizen, you don't have to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to download Tinder. I will also add that a GGU degree won't help much in helping you find a decent job back in China either - even the bigger Chinese firms (think KWM/Dentons) now pretty much only hire grads from T1 law schools.
Maybe someone in a similarly poor situation will google it and this will pop up. That's how I found TLS.cavalier1138 wrote:Why are we still treating the OP seriously?
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You can work as a full-time summer associate as long as you register your employment with the International office at your school - they will register your employment details with the DHS and also update your I-20.luckyirish13 wrote:What are the rules about working during law school? Isn't there like an hours limit or something? And where do summer positions apply to this?galeatus wrote:Please DO NOT DO THIS. You can't register this type of work as OPT with your school (as it is unlikely that it can be considered relevant to your field of study that is law), which renders it as illegal employment and there have been multiple cases lately of students being refused re-entry into the US and having their visas revoked due to illegal employment. It will look especially bad if you are considering a legal career.lauraleeli wrote: Thank you very much for your analysis, it has been very helpful to me. I am actually thinking retake now already. I am just saying that 40K+10k covers my tuition, other costs I may prepare myself before I go to USA. Especially GGU has Honors Lawyering Program (“HLP”) and First Summer Trial and Evidence Program (“1st STEP”), and I have been enrolled by both programs, so I think I can start to work since 2L, therefore I might finance my life expenses. Also I can do some part time work such as translation to tip up myself a little bit.
Speaking as a compatriot, please, for the love of god, retake and do not attend GGU, no matter how attractive the scholly options may seem. It is very unlikely for you to be able to remain in the US on a H1b upon graduation from GGU, and if you want to marry a US citizen, you don't have to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to download Tinder. I will also add that a GGU degree won't help much in helping you find a decent job back in China either - even the bigger Chinese firms (think KWM/Dentons) now pretty much only hire grads from T1 law schools.
Just go. Good luck.lauraleeli wrote:Thomas Hagan, ESQ. wrote:lauraleeli wrote:Thomas Hagan, ESQ. wrote:lauraleeli wrote:guybourdin wrote:lauraleeli wrote:
In 2016, only 1 person from GGU was able to transfer to Berkeley
In 2015, nobody from GGU transferred to Berkeley.
In 2014, only 1 person from GGU was able to transfer to Berkeley.
24 people failed out of GGU last year and only 45% GGU graduates pass the California Bar Exam.
I'm sorry to be blunt, but even though you might have done well in Shanghai, this is law school. You're going to be with extremely hardworking people that are all looking to be in the top 10% of their class to transfer to a better school. Exactly like you. Just because it's a terrible school, it doesn't mean that it's students are terrible. The competition is going to be intense, and I'm sorry to say, you have a severe disadvantage because you're not a native English speaker...and the exams are all in....English.
Lastly, to be even more honest, what makes you think that you'll graduate in the top 5-10% of your class? Your LSAT is extremely mediocre and your GPA (is that 3.0 out of 4.0?) just as mediocre. Your confidence that you'll transfer to a better school is good but it can be dangerous because nothing that you can show supports this claim.
Just because I am ESL, does not mean it is a severe disadvantage. My major is English Literature, and I have passed the highest English learning proficiency ranking exam in China. I read The Economist, The New Yorker and Scientific American. So what is the advantage of a native English Speaker? Just because you have a more authentic American local accent? Or just because you have an American face? I have been a translator for many years, and I captured your American accent, though not perfect, I think I am doing quite well. Well, about writing, can you just look at a forum piece of writing and judge that person is not good at academic writing? You haven't seen any of my academic writings yet, right? By the way, GGU offers me 40K is in partial that I wrote a good piece of PS.
guybourdin wrote:Just go. Good luck.lauraleeli wrote:
Just because I am ESL, does not mean it is a severe disadvantage. My major is English Literature, and I have passed the highest English learning proficiency ranking exam in China. I read The Economist, The New Yorker and Scientific American. So what is the advantage of a native English Speaker? Just because you have a more authentic American local accent? Or just because you have an American face? I have been a translator for many years, and I captured your American accent, though not perfect, I think I am doing quite well. Well, about writing, can you just look at a forum piece of writing and judge that person is not good at academic writing? You haven't seen any of my academic writings yet, right? By the way, GGU offers me 40K is in partial that I wrote a good piece of PS.
