2018 USNWR Rankings Forum

[Colonel_funkadunk]

Stephen A. Smith is obscure? It was a running joke for a good bit.

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=16842644

Come on, now.

well if you post an espn link my whole premise falls apart. plz lemme troll in peace

[guynourmin]

Not that it actually changes how different the schools are, but funny to see Chicago and NU improve while literally every other Illinois school falls.

[20170322]

Stephen A. Smith is obscure? It was a running joke for a good bit.

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=16842644

Come on, now.

Yeah that was my b

All good. These are TENSE and TRYING times in law school rankings, and we must WORK TOGETHER to understand GULC's PLUMMET from grace.

(pops bottles)

[Kali the Annihilator]

Stephen A. Smith is obscure? It was a running joke for a good bit.

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=16842644

Come on, now.

well if you post an espn link my whole premise falls apart. plz lemme troll in peace

[carasrook]

Not that it actually changes how different the schools are, but funny to see Chicago and NU improve while literally every other Illinois school falls.

right? i thought UIUC would shoot back up eventually

[Colonel_funkadunk]

the real important story here is that the dakotas are finally tied:

142) U North Dakota (+2)
142) U South Dakota (+1)

[guynourmin]

Not that it actually changes how different the schools are, but funny to see Chicago and NU improve while literally every other Illinois school falls.

right? i thought UIUC would shoot back up eventually

Same. It has decent employment numbers and feeds a pretty strong market. Although, I'm still pretty bitter they are asking a life long resident to pay more to go to UIUC than WUSTL or Minnesota and haven't responded to my first e-mail in almost 2 weeks, so not too concerned.

[Kali the Annihilator]

18,000 currently attending GULC students are apoplectic right now.

[jingosaur]

HCC confirmed.

[waldorf]

Not that it actually changes how different the schools are, but funny to see Chicago and NU improve while literally every other Illinois school falls.

right? i thought UIUC would shoot back up eventually

Same. It has decent employment numbers and feeds a pretty strong market. Although, I'm still pretty bitter they are asking a life long resident to pay more to go to UIUC than WUSTL or Minnesota and haven't responded to my first e-mail in almost 2 weeks, so not too concerned.

Source: uncle is a hiring partner at Jones Day in Chicago.

In Chicago, UIUC is still highly regarded among Big Law firms, regardless of ranking. They don't really care about the scandal with the dean that made them plummet.

[bmathers]

Really, the first rankings since the Dickinson vs Penn State Law split, and Dickinson was the big winner. Shot up 21 spots, PS Law only 4, putting some distance in their rankings.

It's also interesting to note that W&L gained 12 spots and is now a top 30 law school.

[Kali the Annihilator]

WaPo reports that a medium sized Washington DC suburb has seen its rankings plummet. School Mayor searching for answers.

[BigZuck]

Neither shocked nor surprised at UT joining the pantheon

WELL DESERVED WE DID IT

[carasrook]

Not that it actually changes how different the schools are, but funny to see Chicago and NU improve while literally every other Illinois school falls.

right? i thought UIUC would shoot back up eventually

Same. It has decent employment numbers and feeds a pretty strong market. Although, I'm still pretty bitter they are asking a life long resident to pay more to go to UIUC than WUSTL or Minnesota and haven't responded to my first e-mail in almost 2 weeks, so not too concerned.

Source: uncle is a hiring partner at Jones Day in Chicago.

In Chicago, UIUC is still highly regarded among Big Law firms, regardless of ranking. They don't really care about the scandal with the dean that made them plummet.

guybourdin - that's frustrating. more money might open up post-deposit deadline. are you leaning away from UIUC because of it?

and bwaldorf - yes, i've heard that as well... but it's still frustrating knowing UIUC has better employment numbers than some of the schools ranked higher... is it really just the result of a grudge/bad decision making by ONE employee? doesn't make sense to me.

[chili_davis]

UC Davis drops (-9) yikes....

[Colonel_funkadunk]

WaPo reports that a medium sized Washington DC suburb has seen its rankings plummet. School Mayor searching for answers.

breitbart stated that the heavy influence of the coastal elite schools on biased ranking officials is primary source of the blame

[guynourmin]

Not that it actually changes how different the schools are, but funny to see Chicago and NU improve while literally every other Illinois school falls.

right? i thought UIUC would shoot back up eventually

Same. It has decent employment numbers and feeds a pretty strong market. Although, I'm still pretty bitter they are asking a life long resident to pay more to go to UIUC than WUSTL or Minnesota and haven't responded to my first e-mail in almost 2 weeks, so not too concerned.

Source: uncle is a hiring partner at Jones Day in Chicago.

In Chicago, UIUC is still highly regarded among Big Law firms, regardless of ranking. They don't really care about the scandal with the dean that made them plummet.

I hope it didn't sound like I was saying anything different! I would have thought the fact that it is still well regarded, and its employment numbers aren't horrible, would help it bounce back. For instance, UIUC's (44) employment score is basically the same as Wake (36) and Indiana (30), and its biglaw+fedclerk score blows those two out of the water, but the difference in ranking persists.

[jingosaur]

Neither shocked nor surprised at UT joining the pantheon

WELL DESERVED WE DID IT

UT senior associates automatically promoted to partner. Georgetown partners now all of-counsel.

Joe Jamail is smiling down from heaven.

[curry1]

Angry bros in Morningside Heights silently chanting "CCN."

[TLSModBot]

18,000 currently attending GULC students are apoplectic right now.

tbf half of those are poached from GW and AU so it's like fleeing the Titanic for the safety of the Lusitania

[poptart123]

Texas A&M hasn't stopped their progress yet. Amazing jumps each year.

[haus]

18,000 currently attending GULC students are apoplectic right now.

[Kali the Annihilator]

and bwaldorf - yes, i've heard that as well... but it's still frustrating knowing UIUC has better employment numbers than some of the schools ranked higher... is it really just the result of a grudge/bad decision making by ONE employee? doesn't make sense to me.

A grudge? Dude, the US News is pretty transparent about their ranking systems and how metrics are weighed.

From the site you are on right now:

25.00% - Peer Assessment Score
15.00% - Assessment Score by Lawyers/Judges
14.00% - Employment Rate 9 mos. After Graduation
12.50% - Median LSAT Scores
10.00% - Median UGPA
9.75% - Average instruction, library, and supporting services
4.00% - Employment Rate at Graduation
3.00% - Student/Faculty Ratio
2.50% - Acceptance Rate
2.00% - Bar Passage Rate
1.50% - Financial Aid
.75% - Library Resources

Employment accounts for a small portion of the rankings. Whether or not that is appropriate is a fair conversation, but you can find out the deal yourself if you look.

[Kali the Annihilator]

18,000 currently attending GULC students are apoplectic right now.

tbf half of those are poached from GW and AU so it's like fleeing the Titanic for the safety of the Lusitania

Save the women and kids! Here, hand them to this dude in the woman suit!

[Fiddlesticks]

Neither shocked nor surprised at UT joining the pantheon

WELL DESERVED WE DID IT

To be clear, UT has not joined anything. UT is still just outside the meaningful distinction. It is now the T13.