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Post by Ron Howard » Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:08 pm

Huskies13! wrote:Alabama entering class, they say, is 154.
http://www.law.ua.edu/blog/news/law-sch ... ifference/
154 LSAT Median? Or 154 incoming students?

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Post by Aquila » Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:08 pm

Huskies13! wrote:Alabama entering class, they say, is 154.
http://www.law.ua.edu/blog/news/law-sch ... ifference/
Classes start tomorrow?! that sucks

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Post by RareExports » Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:11 pm

Elon's class size is 132 (+20 from last year).

http://www.elon.edu/E-Net/Article/117986

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Post by krads153 » Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:20 pm

TheodoreKGB wrote:
Huskies13! wrote:Berkeley is up:
https://www.law.berkeley.edu/admissions ... s-profile/
301 (up 27).
166 (-1!!)
3.79 (same)
Wow.
wow is right

Man, law school is super easy to get into these days.

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Post by Tiago Splitter » Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:17 pm

krads153 wrote: Man, law school is super easy to get into these days.
It is but not because of this. Berkeley's LSAT median has been a TTT-esque 167 for a while.

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Post by whitespider » Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:32 pm

West Virginia Law

153 (-1)
3.35 (-.08)

103 Enrolled (-4)

http://wvutoday.wvu.edu/n/2015/08/12/me ... ss-of-2018

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Post by MikeJD » Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:36 pm

Berkeley could have easily had a 167 if they wanted, they just pay less attention to it than other schools.

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Post by BasilHallward » Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:44 pm

chuckbass wrote:GULC to 160
link for this??

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Post by eriedoctrine » Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:47 pm

MikeJD wrote:Berkeley could have easily had a 167 if they wanted, they just pay less attention to it than other schools.
That's why throughout the years, Berkeley plummeted from T6 to T10.

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Post by Tiago Splitter » Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:49 pm

MikeJD wrote:Berkeley could have easily had a 167 if they wanted, they just pay less attention to it than other schools.
Berkeley could have a 170 if they wanted, but I wouldn't write this off so quickly. They've been at 167 year after year after year. My guess is they intended to keep this year at 167 and just couldn't do it.

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Post by chuckbass » Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:51 pm

BasilHallward wrote:
chuckbass wrote:GULC to 160
link for this??
See, e.g. NY to 190k

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Post by krads153 » Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:53 pm

eriedoctrine wrote:
MikeJD wrote:Berkeley could have easily had a 167 if they wanted, they just pay less attention to it than other schools.
That's why throughout the years, Berkeley plummeted from T6 to T10.
I think they were only ranked 6 once...they're usually lower T10. The 6 was a fluke.

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Post by BasilHallward » Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:53 pm

chuckbass wrote:
BasilHallward wrote:
chuckbass wrote:GULC to 160
link for this??
See, e.g. NY to 190k

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Post by Kinky John » Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:56 pm

Aren't we down to T11? I thought M was out in addition to G and now B

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Post by krads153 » Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:57 pm

Tiago Splitter wrote:
krads153 wrote: Man, law school is super easy to get into these days.
It is but not because of this. Berkeley's LSAT median has been a TTT-esque 167 for a while.
I guess it's because I don't recall any T-14 dropping below 167 medians in recent history, not even Cornell

That may be why it seems like a bigger deal to me. Plus their 25th is atrocious, but it might have always been 163ish

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Post by krads153 » Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:58 pm

Kinky John wrote:Aren't we down to T11? I thought M was out in addition to G and now B
Maybe, although Northwestern is probably next. its median was like 170 a few years ago....And not sure about UVA since its gaming of the rankings isn't going to be as effective

But seriously, law school is sooooooo easy to get into these days, compared to even 5 years ago

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Post by Kinky John » Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:02 pm

krads153 wrote:
Kinky John wrote:Aren't we down to T11? I thought M was out in addition to G and now B
Northwestern is probably next. its median was like 170 a few years ago....
N's 25th was a TTT-ish 162 this past year...

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Post by Ron Howard » Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:03 pm

krads153 wrote:
Tiago Splitter wrote:
krads153 wrote: Man, law school is super easy to get into these days.
It is but not because of this. Berkeley's LSAT median has been a TTT-esque 167 for a while.
I guess it's because I don't recall any T-14 dropping below 167 medians in recent history, not even Cornell

That may be why it seems like a bigger deal to me. Plus their 25th is atrocious, but it might have always been 163ish
For the class of 2017, Penn's 25th was 164 and Northwestern's was 162. They also get to operate freely, without a requirement for a certain amount of in state students. You have to cut public school's like Berkeley some slack.

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Post by krads153 » Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:04 pm

Kinky John wrote:
krads153 wrote:
Kinky John wrote:Aren't we down to T11? I thought M was out in addition to G and now B
Northwestern is probably next. its median was like 170 a few years ago....
N's 25th was a TTT-ish 162 this past year...
haha, wow...The 25ths of many T-14s used to be like 167, only a few years ago. At this rate, the only schools with reasonable numbers are going to be HYS....shameful.

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Post by Kinky John » Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:05 pm

Ron Howard wrote:For the class of 2017, Penn's 25th was 164 and Northwestern's was 162. They also get to operate freely, without a requirement for a certain amount of in state students. You have to cut public school's like Berkeley some slack.
Well both V and M had higher medians and 25ths than B, are you calling Californians stupid? Bc obviously LSAT correlates to intelligence

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Post by chuckbass » Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:06 pm

krads153 wrote:
Kinky John wrote:
krads153 wrote:
Kinky John wrote:Aren't we down to T11? I thought M was out in addition to G and now B
Northwestern is probably next. its median was like 170 a few years ago....
N's 25th was a TTT-ish 162 this past year...
haha, wow...The 25ths of many T-14s used to be like 167, only a few years ago. At this rate, the only schools with reasonable numbers are going to be HYS....shameful.
Except it's not going to continue at this rate.

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Post by Ron Howard » Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:06 pm

krads153 wrote:
Kinky John wrote:Aren't we down to T11? I thought M was out in addition to G and now B
Maybe, although Northwestern is probably next. its median was like 170 a few years ago....And not sure about UVA since its gaming of the rankings isn't going to be as effective

But seriously, law school is sooooooo easy to get into these days, compared to even 5 years ago
Almost all of the T14s game the rankings. Just look and Penn and NU's 25th% LSATS.

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Post by rnoodles » Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:06 pm

krads153 wrote:
Kinky John wrote:
krads153 wrote:
Kinky John wrote:Aren't we down to T11? I thought M was out in addition to G and now B
Northwestern is probably next. its median was like 170 a few years ago....
N's 25th was a TTT-ish 162 this past year...
haha, wow...The 25ths of many T-14s used to be like 167, only a few years ago. At this rate, the only schools with reasonable numbers are going to be HYS....shameful.
I may be wrong, but I assume the reason why N was so low on the 25th was because of their preference for people w/ WE that may have lower scores. And, personally, I think Gtown's drop is likely due to their class size.

I feel for Michigan, though. I don't know how true this is, but I heard they were once T6 or flirting with it.

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Post by Kinky John » Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:07 pm

rnoodles22 wrote:I feel for Michigan, though. I don't know how true this is, but I heard they were once T6 or flirting with it.
M was T3 at one point

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Post by krads153 » Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:08 pm

Ron Howard wrote:
krads153 wrote:
Kinky John wrote:Aren't we down to T11? I thought M was out in addition to G and now B
Maybe, although Northwestern is probably next. its median was like 170 a few years ago....And not sure about UVA since its gaming of the rankings isn't going to be as effective

But seriously, law school is sooooooo easy to get into these days, compared to even 5 years ago
Almost all of the T14s game the rankings. Just look and Penn and NU's 25th% LSATS.
UVA seemed to be by far the worst though with the only accepting ED apps thing they had going for a number of years and literally YP everyone else. They ended up with really bad 25ths, but decent medians. I doubt they can keep doing that to maintain medians anymore though, given how nobody in their right mind would ED anywhere anymore.

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