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Mal Reynolds · Post by **Mal Reynolds** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 6:07 pm

TTT in decline sounds wrong. More like TTT reaching it's inevitable equilibrium.

Moneytrees · Post by **Moneytrees** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:22 pm

So, are the employment sheets really coming out today?

Effingham · Post by **Effingham** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:35 pm

Notre Dame

37.4

http://www3.nd.edu/~ndlaw/career/employ ... ksheet.pdf

BigZuck · Post by **BigZuck** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:43 pm

Effingham wrote:Notre Dame

37.4

http://www3.nd.edu/~ndlaw/career/employ ... ksheet.pdf

Surprised it was that high but looks like it might be just small class size noise. Didn't realize they were already in the mid 30s last year.

Effingham · Post by **Effingham** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:49 pm

BigZuck wrote:
Effingham wrote:Notre Dame

37.4

http://www3.nd.edu/~ndlaw/career/employ ... ksheet.pdf
Surprised it was that high but looks like it might be just small class size noise. Didn't realize they were already in the mid 30s last year.

Yeah, really only an increase of a few people placed. Looks pretty though.

They upped the long term, bar-passage required school funded spots by a ton though...don't know what that's about.

Tiago Splitter · Post by **Tiago Splitter** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:12 pm

OP should update the OP as numbers come in or someone should start a thread to keep track of things.

Moneytrees · Post by **Moneytrees** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:13 pm

If you count the state clerkships as well, ND is around 42%. Not bad.

BigZuck · Post by **BigZuck** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:16 pm

Moneytrees wrote:If you count the state clerkships as well, ND is around 42%. Not bad.

Yeah but then you're counting state clerkships so nah. Some of those are last resort I couldn't find anything better so here I am state intermediate court of appeals jobs.

zombie mcavoy · Post by **zombie mcavoy** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:17 pm

Moneytrees wrote:If you count the state clerkships as well, ND is around 42%. Not bad.

OK but state court clerkships are less desirable than most other FTLTJDR jobs. Maybe not SSC clerkships under the right circumstances, but there's a reason we don't include these in the big money score.

Mal Reynolds · Post by **Mal Reynolds** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:22 pm

If you count baristas it ups Notre Dame's numbers to 75%. Not bad at all.

Moneytrees · Post by **Moneytrees** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:25 pm

Yeah that's true. Original post updated with employment data that we have so far.

rpupkin · Post by **rpupkin** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:29 pm

Moneytrees wrote:Yeah that's true. Original post updated with employment data that we have so far.

Thanks for updating, Moneytrees! One minor suggestion: edit the OP to add the criteria. BL = firms with 100+ attorneys, right?

Effingham · Post by **Effingham** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:31 pm

Moneytrees wrote:Yeah that's true. Original post updated with employment data that we have so far.

37.4 OP

101+, but yeah, that's right rpupkin.

Mal Reynolds · Post by **Mal Reynolds** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:33 pm

Add the 2013 delta in green or red if positive or negative. Then dance for me clown.

zombie mcavoy · Post by **zombie mcavoy** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:34 pm

Mal Reynolds wrote:Add the 2013 delta in green or red if positive or negative. Then dance for me clown.

Moneytrees · Post by **Moneytrees** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:39 pm

zombie mcavoy wrote:
Mal Reynolds wrote:Add the 2013 delta in green or red if positive or negative. Then dance for me clown.

Move over LST, I'm taking over.

rpupkin · Post by **rpupkin** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:42 pm

You're awesome, moneytrees. Now all we need is Mike Spivey posting leaked ABA information for schools.

BrazilBandit · Post by **BrazilBandit** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:36 pm

Please add to OP -> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

I will update as they come through

itascot1992 · Post by **itascot1992** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:36 pm

Villanova Law if you care to add

http://www1.villanova.edu/content/villa ... l#itemtab1

pamphleteer · Post by **pamphleteer** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 5:18 pm

ND reported a short-term employed federal clerk. Dunno if I've seen that before.

Desert Fox · Post by **Desert Fox** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 5:27 pm

pamphleteer wrote:ND reported a short-term employed federal clerk. Dunno if I've seen that before.

Aren't a lot of them like 11ish months, which under the ABA standards supposed to be short term.

Mack.Hambleton · Post by **Mack.Hambleton** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 5:29 pm

any more today?

pamphleteer · Post by **pamphleteer** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 5:32 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
pamphleteer wrote:ND reported a short-term employed federal clerk. Dunno if I've seen that before.
Aren't a lot of them like 11ish months, which under the ABA standards supposed to be short term.

I thought they were all technically a year (or at least reported as such for ABA purposes, the description of "short term" specifically excludes clerkships) but I could be wrong.

twenty 8 · Post by **twenty 8** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:39 pm

Maybe too early to tell. Has anyone noticed if employment stats have varied since employment stats are now supposedly only to reflect JD required jobs?

JFO1833 · Post by **JFO1833** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:02 pm

Went through US News 2016 rankings. Got through 78th. Here are the stats I found:

BL+FC: (101+/Graduates), FTBR (FTBR Employed/Graduates)

Posted for Davis: https://law.ucdavis.edu/career-services ... BA-590.pdf (BL+FC: 18%, FTBR: 78%)
Posted for BYU: http://www.law2.byu.edu/page/categories ... 202014.pdf (BL+FC: 19%, FTBR: 76%)
Posted for Ohio State: http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/careers/wp-con ... Report.pdf (BL+FC: 20%, FTBR: 74%)
Posted for Florida: http://www.law.ufl.edu/wordpress/wp-con ... duates.pdf (BL+FC: 17%, FTBR: 69%)
Posted for Richmond: http://law.richmond.edu/admissions/PDF/ ... ummary.pdf (BL+FC: 13%, FTBR: 59%)
Posted for Nebraska: http://law.unl.edu/documents/ABAEmploymentStats.pdf (BL+FC: 8%, FTBR: 74%)
Posted for UNLV: http://law.unlv.edu/sites/default/files ... -57-14.pdf (BL+FC: 6%, FTBR: 67%)
Posted for Arkansas Fayetteville: http://law.uark.edu/documents/2012/06/E ... es2014.pdf (BL+FC: 9%, FTBR: 55%)
Posted for Illinois-Tech (Kent): http://www.kentlaw.iit.edu/Documents/De ... 202014.pdf (BL+FC: 8%, FTBR: 52%)
Posted for Loyola Chicago: http://www.luc.edu/media/lucedu/law/car ... 14_ABA.pdf (BL+FC: 11%, FTBR: 56%)

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