This. If you are a Christian and you aren't a Catholic, you are a Protestant.Cicero76 wrote:Bro you have like 7 posts and 6 of them are protesting something or other. That alone should make you Protestant. Besides, if 12 years of Catholic school taught me anything, it's that ALL ya'll other Christian religions are protestants, even if we can't keep your eleventy million different iterations straight.AlexdKJV wrote:
Finally, just to politely let you know, I am not a Protestant. Protestant churches came out of the Catholic church (during the reformation in the 16th Century) and while they changed much of the doctrine they also kept much of the doctrine. IFB churches take their doctrine directly from the Lord's Inerrant Word with no man-made tradition mixed in. Sadly, this is something that even many Independent Baptists are ignorant of.
Thanks again for your suggestions!
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West Wing references are always TCRMal Reynolds wrote:Leviticus says I should stone my daughter if she works on a Sunday. Should I do this?
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Sorry, I know that did not sound right now that you two posted those quotes!...Cartman wrote:Lol, sounds like you should become a priest.AlexdKJV wrote:Children enjoy it when I go to their birthday parties (particularly those children from my church).bearsfan23 wrote:OP seems like a lot of fun at parties
Those are the only parties I attend.
Dammit you beat me to it.james.bungles wrote:might want to check out Penn State LawAlexdKJV wrote:Children enjoy it when I go to their birthday parties (particularly those children from my church).bearsfan23 wrote:OP seems like a lot of fun at parties
Those are the only parties I attend.
I was referring to the fact that I do not go to parties where booze is present unless it is a family gathering and I have the opportunity to be a good testimony to the others.
Sadly, not too many adults have birthday parties anymore, and most of those that do have booze served at those parties. Thus, I thought of children and wrote it...
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I'd say if you belonged to the Armenian Church, Ethiopian Church, or the Chinese Church that died out in like the 6th Century you could be both non-Catholic and non-Protestant. They were founded by Catholic missionaries but lost touch with the Church, so they're cool enough to be their own thing in my opinion. And maybe the Copts.ManoftheHour wrote:This. If you are a Christian and you aren't a Catholic, you are a Protestant.Cicero76 wrote:Bro you have like 7 posts and 6 of them are protesting something or other. That alone should make you Protestant. Besides, if 12 years of Catholic school taught me anything, it's that ALL ya'll other Christian religions are protestants, even if we can't keep your eleventy million different iterations straight.AlexdKJV wrote:
Finally, just to politely let you know, I am not a Protestant. Protestant churches came out of the Catholic church (during the reformation in the 16th Century) and while they changed much of the doctrine they also kept much of the doctrine. IFB churches take their doctrine directly from the Lord's Inerrant Word with no man-made tradition mixed in. Sadly, this is something that even many Independent Baptists are ignorant of.
Thanks again for your suggestions!
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but Jesus is famous for homebrewing wineAlexdKJV wrote:
Sorry, I know that did not sound right now that you two posted those quotes!...
I was referring to the fact that I do not go to parties where booze is present unless it is a family gathering and I have the opportunity to be a good testimony to the others.
Sadly, not too many adults have birthday parties anymore, and most of those that do have booze served at those parties. Thus, I thought of children and wrote it...
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No, it does not.Mal Reynolds wrote:Leviticus says I should stone my daughter if she works on a Sunday. Should I do this?
Even if Leviticus did say that, we are living in a different dispensation. Leviticus was the law for the Jews to keep under the Mosaic covenant. We are now living in the age of grace.
Besides, Gentiles such as myself were never under the law, so that is not really applicable to us in terms of following it. Of course, it is still important to read in order to understand the Bible in the aggregate...
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What about the Orthodox?Cicero76 wrote:I'd say if you belonged to the Armenian Church, Ethiopian Church, or the Chinese Church that died out in like the 6th Century you could be both non-Catholic and non-Protestant. They were founded by Catholic missionaries but lost touch with the Church, so they're cool enough to be their own thing in my opinion. And maybe the Copts.ManoftheHour wrote:This. If you are a Christian and you aren't a Catholic, you are a Protestant.Cicero76 wrote:Bro you have like 7 posts and 6 of them are protesting something or other. That alone should make you Protestant. Besides, if 12 years of Catholic school taught me anything, it's that ALL ya'll other Christian religions are protestants, even if we can't keep your eleventy million different iterations straight.AlexdKJV wrote:
Finally, just to politely let you know, I am not a Protestant. Protestant churches came out of the Catholic church (during the reformation in the 16th Century) and while they changed much of the doctrine they also kept much of the doctrine. IFB churches take their doctrine directly from the Lord's Inerrant Word with no man-made tradition mixed in. Sadly, this is something that even many Independent Baptists are ignorant of.
Thanks again for your suggestions!
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Lsat and gpa are God around here, how you looking in those areas?
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Wine, as in non-alcoholic grape juice.james.bungles wrote:but Jesus is famous for homebrewing wineAlexdKJV wrote:
Sorry, I know that did not sound right now that you two posted those quotes!...
I was referring to the fact that I do not go to parties where booze is present unless it is a family gathering and I have the opportunity to be a good testimony to the others.
Sadly, not too many adults have birthday parties anymore, and most of those that do have booze served at those parties. Thus, I thought of children and wrote it...
The term "wine" was given to all grape juice, both fermented and non-fermented, until Welch's coined the term "grape juice" in the early 19th century.
Just a little history lesson...
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It's hard to take this statement seriously when you quoted from the apostles ITT. Wouldn't the Lord's word (absent any man-made tradition) be the recorded words of Jesus and relevant materials from the Old Testament?AlexdKJV wrote:IFB churches take their doctrine directly from the Lord's Inerrant Word with no man-made tradition mixed in.
In any event, you may have better luck working backwards, as others suggested already. Find acceptable churches within 1hr driving (65ish miles) of the best ranking schools available and then eliminate the schools from that list that are unacceptable to you. I bet it's short work, TBH, considering the long list of limiting factors.
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I have to ask: how much are you willing to sacrifice in terms of employment prospects for a school that fits your ideological/religious beliefs?AlexdKJV wrote:Hello Everyone,
I am new to this site and would like to introduce myself as well as ask for advice.
My name is Alex and I, as you may be able to guess by my username and subject line, am a born-again Christian. I am taking the LSAT in June and plan to enroll in law school in 2015. I hope to be able to use my future J.D. for the ministry.
I am an Independent Fundamental Baptist (yes, one of those "crazy" fundamentalists as many here have called them in previous discussions within this forum) who stands for the precious Authorized 1611 King James Bible, old-fashioned hymns, hard preaching, soul winning, modesty, separation, the local church, and high standards. Knowing that I will be in a very small minority in terms of my beliefs virtually anywhere I go to law school, I would nevertheless like to be at a school that has some like-minded people or at least a sizable born-again population (NOT Catholic, Mormon, etc. - Yes, I am strongly opposed to ecumenism).
Additionally, I am very politically involved. My political views are a bit more libertarian than those of many born-again Christians and conservatives particularly on foreign policy and "national security" issues. I believe that the US government should return to the gold standard, withdraw from the United Nations (and force the UN off of our soil), stop starting needless wars in foreign countries, fully restore the people's Second Amendment rights, stop the warrantless data mining/wiretapping of the communications of private citizens, fully restore the Biblical separation of church and state (i.e. end the "faith-based initiatives" programs), and fully restore the sovereignty of the individual state and local governments. Essentially, I agree with the US Constitution Party on most political issues and would like to see someone like Ron Paul (if he were younger), Rand Paul, or Ted Cruz (if he is eligible) become President in 2016. As with Biblical doctrine, I do not believe in compromise within the political arena.
That said, I was wondering which law schools would be most likely to have individuals such as myself within their student body. I would assume that most such schools would be in the South. Baylor looked like a fairly decent fit upon first glance since despite the fact that they are Southern Baptist they do have a sizable number of born-again Christians within their student body and faculty. I am sure there are some other schools, including public schools, that lean to the right politically and have a sizable number of born-again believers. I would be curious to know what any of them are. (NOTE: Please do not recommend BYU or Notre Dame - I refuse to even consider going to either!)
Again, I know I will be in a very small minority anywhere I go, but I have learned to deal with the scorn and ridicule of liberals quite well. I would be happy if there were even five other students very similar to me. Of course, the more like me, the better.
Anyone is welcome to give their feedback. Yes, I still love those whose persuasions are different than mine and will respect their right to disagree with me as well. I have nothing against being friends with people who have different viewpoints - I just will not compromise the Truth and the Constitution for the purpose of appeasing others! Just to clear up any doubts...
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And what about after law school? What are your plans as a practicing attorney? If you're taking out loans to fund your LS education, I'm assuming you'll have to chase that "filthy lucre" to pay down that debt. How selective can you be in finding a place of employment that meets all of these criteria? (Unless there are tons of non-profits or PI that I'm unaware of that meet all of your criteria).
You do realize that if you go work at some firm you may have to work with clients or projects that you are ideologically opposed to? Or are you wanting to open your own shop and go solo? And would you ever take a client who has done something contrary to your religious views? Clients don't like to pay their bills when you tell them they're going to hell....
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Nah. Those bros protested our screwing up their creed by mistranslating procedit and adding Filioque all the way back in 1054, they been protesting ever sinceMidwest17 wrote: What about the Orthodox?
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OP, what is your LSAT/GPA? What are your career goals aside from doing pro bono work for churches?
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I hope to start a firm or an organization like the Christian Law Association.sublime wrote:AlexdKJV wrote: You may view my Twitter profile to verify: @AlexdlT1611 All tweets, followers, and following are public and real, and I follow back anyone who follows me and is not a spammer or someone who only posts vulgar messages (they get blocked and reported), so I follow plenty of liberals too.
JFC at your feed.
Anyway, I may have missed it, but as someone else pointed out, why do you want a JD as opposed to some sort of religious degree? Like what do you hope to do?
http://www.christianlaw.org/cla/
Some local churches also have legal ministries, such as Lighthouse Baptist Church.
http://lighthousebaptistministries.org/pages.php?ID=23
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GPA was a little low, 2.95. However, I graduated in 2011, so time and a good LSAT may erase that.brotherdarkness wrote:OP, what is your LSAT/GPA? What are your career goals aside from doing pro bono work for churches?
I am studying for the LSAT now; I have not taken it previously. I am shooting to get above a 170 (I got a 160 on my first practice test and have dedicated most of my time outside of work and church to studying).
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Why? Are you too thin-skinned to deal with someone different than you or something? Just curious...coldshoulder wrote:I really, really wish this was a troll
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So then what is your textual basis for hating gay people.AlexdKJV wrote:No, it does not.Mal Reynolds wrote:Leviticus says I should stone my daughter if she works on a Sunday. Should I do this?
Even if Leviticus did say that, we are living in a different dispensation. Leviticus was the law for the Jews to keep under the Mosaic covenant. We are now living in the age of grace.
Besides, Gentiles such as myself were never under the law, so that is not really applicable to us in terms of following it. Of course, it is still important to read in order to understand the Bible in the aggregate...
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I have never read a post that made me think flame faster than this one. You claim to respect all others' beliefs, yet you go off against Catholics and Mormons. But, I'll help you on the off chance that you're not a flame. If you truly want to help your ministry, then you're going to want to go to the best school you can get into. Even if that means Berkeley or Yale, you'll just have to bite your lip and spend 3 years with us heathens. If you're serious about wanting to go to a school with a large Christian population and are not as interested in being a lawyer, then two schools come to mind. Regent University is a pretty large school in Virginia. It's a private, Christian University founded by Pat Robertson. They have a very large Baptist population and a large number of born again christians. Honestly, it seems like your dream school. Look it up. The other is Liberty University, they're a very big Christian school also in Virginia. It is also worth exploring. I wouldn't ask any of us our opinions on the schools that fit your desires though.
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Based on what you plan to do with your JD, it really doesn't matter if you go to a TTTT. It's not like you're trying to get a firm job or anything.
Communicate now with those who not only know what a legal education is, but can offer you worthy advice and commentary as you complete the three most educational, yet challenging years of your law related post graduate life.
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All sixty-six books, from Genesis to Revelation, are the Lord's Inerrant Word in their entirety.Dingo Starr wrote:It's hard to take this statement seriously when you quoted from the apostles ITT. Wouldn't the Lord's word (absent any man-made tradition) be the recorded words of Jesus and relevant materials from the Old Testament?AlexdKJV wrote:IFB churches take their doctrine directly from the Lord's Inerrant Word with no man-made tradition mixed in.
In any event, you may have better luck working backwards, as others suggested already. Find acceptable churches within 1hr driving (65ish miles) of the best ranking schools available and then eliminate the schools from that list that are unacceptable to you. I bet it's short work, TBH, considering the long list of limiting factors.
Although people (sinners) are speaking, writing, acting, etc. the other books, every writer of ever book wrote under divinely inspired revelation. Such revelation is no longer in existence since Scripture is now complete (it is a sign gift, just as healing and speaking in tongues were sign gifts - that is, used for the completion of Scripture and no longer among us since Scripture is now complete).
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obvious troll is obvious
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Dude posted his twitter. This is def. not a flame.drawstring wrote:obvious troll is obvious
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Maybe not flame, but he certainly seems more interested in the replies about his religion than the ones about his options for law school.Ron Mexico wrote:Dude posted his twitter. This is def. not a flame.drawstring wrote:obvious troll is obvious
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