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Re: Best Law Schools for Born-Again Christians

Post by ManoftheHour » Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:48 pm

Cicero76 wrote:
AlexdKJV wrote:
Finally, just to politely let you know, I am not a Protestant. Protestant churches came out of the Catholic church (during the reformation in the 16th Century) and while they changed much of the doctrine they also kept much of the doctrine. IFB churches take their doctrine directly from the Lord's Inerrant Word with no man-made tradition mixed in. Sadly, this is something that even many Independent Baptists are ignorant of.

Thanks again for your suggestions!
Bro you have like 7 posts and 6 of them are protesting something or other. That alone should make you Protestant. Besides, if 12 years of Catholic school taught me anything, it's that ALL ya'll other Christian religions are protestants, even if we can't keep your eleventy million different iterations straight.
This. If you are a Christian and you aren't a Catholic, you are a Protestant.

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Post by Cicero76 » Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:49 pm

Mal Reynolds wrote:Leviticus says I should stone my daughter if she works on a Sunday. Should I do this?
West Wing references are always TCR

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Post by AlexdKJV » Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:49 pm

Cartman wrote:
AlexdKJV wrote:
bearsfan23 wrote:OP seems like a lot of fun at parties
Children enjoy it when I go to their birthday parties (particularly those children from my church).

Those are the only parties I attend.
Lol, sounds like you should become a priest.
james.bungles wrote:
AlexdKJV wrote:
bearsfan23 wrote:OP seems like a lot of fun at parties
Children enjoy it when I go to their birthday parties (particularly those children from my church).

Those are the only parties I attend.
might want to check out Penn State Law
Dammit you beat me to it.
Sorry, I know that did not sound right now that you two posted those quotes!...

I was referring to the fact that I do not go to parties where booze is present unless it is a family gathering and I have the opportunity to be a good testimony to the others.

Sadly, not too many adults have birthday parties anymore, and most of those that do have booze served at those parties. Thus, I thought of children and wrote it...

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Re: Best Law Schools for Born-Again Christians

Post by Cicero76 » Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:51 pm

ManoftheHour wrote:
Cicero76 wrote:
AlexdKJV wrote:
Finally, just to politely let you know, I am not a Protestant. Protestant churches came out of the Catholic church (during the reformation in the 16th Century) and while they changed much of the doctrine they also kept much of the doctrine. IFB churches take their doctrine directly from the Lord's Inerrant Word with no man-made tradition mixed in. Sadly, this is something that even many Independent Baptists are ignorant of.

Thanks again for your suggestions!
Bro you have like 7 posts and 6 of them are protesting something or other. That alone should make you Protestant. Besides, if 12 years of Catholic school taught me anything, it's that ALL ya'll other Christian religions are protestants, even if we can't keep your eleventy million different iterations straight.
This. If you are a Christian and you aren't a Catholic, you are a Protestant.
I'd say if you belonged to the Armenian Church, Ethiopian Church, or the Chinese Church that died out in like the 6th Century you could be both non-Catholic and non-Protestant. They were founded by Catholic missionaries but lost touch with the Church, so they're cool enough to be their own thing in my opinion. And maybe the Copts.

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Re: Best Law Schools for Born-Again Christians

Post by Mack.Hambleton » Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:54 pm

AlexdKJV wrote:
Sorry, I know that did not sound right now that you two posted those quotes!...

I was referring to the fact that I do not go to parties where booze is present unless it is a family gathering and I have the opportunity to be a good testimony to the others.

Sadly, not too many adults have birthday parties anymore, and most of those that do have booze served at those parties. Thus, I thought of children and wrote it...
but Jesus is famous for homebrewing wine

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Re: Best Law Schools for Born-Again Christians

Post by AlexdKJV » Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:57 pm

Mal Reynolds wrote:Leviticus says I should stone my daughter if she works on a Sunday. Should I do this?
No, it does not.

Even if Leviticus did say that, we are living in a different dispensation. Leviticus was the law for the Jews to keep under the Mosaic covenant. We are now living in the age of grace.

Besides, Gentiles such as myself were never under the law, so that is not really applicable to us in terms of following it. Of course, it is still important to read in order to understand the Bible in the aggregate...

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Post by midwest17 » Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:58 pm

Cicero76 wrote:
ManoftheHour wrote:
Cicero76 wrote:
AlexdKJV wrote:
Finally, just to politely let you know, I am not a Protestant. Protestant churches came out of the Catholic church (during the reformation in the 16th Century) and while they changed much of the doctrine they also kept much of the doctrine. IFB churches take their doctrine directly from the Lord's Inerrant Word with no man-made tradition mixed in. Sadly, this is something that even many Independent Baptists are ignorant of.

Thanks again for your suggestions!
Bro you have like 7 posts and 6 of them are protesting something or other. That alone should make you Protestant. Besides, if 12 years of Catholic school taught me anything, it's that ALL ya'll other Christian religions are protestants, even if we can't keep your eleventy million different iterations straight.
This. If you are a Christian and you aren't a Catholic, you are a Protestant.
I'd say if you belonged to the Armenian Church, Ethiopian Church, or the Chinese Church that died out in like the 6th Century you could be both non-Catholic and non-Protestant. They were founded by Catholic missionaries but lost touch with the Church, so they're cool enough to be their own thing in my opinion. And maybe the Copts.
What about the Orthodox?

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Re: Best Law Schools for Born-Again Christians

Post by Clearly » Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:59 pm

Lsat and gpa are God around here, how you looking in those areas?

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Post by AlexdKJV » Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:00 am

james.bungles wrote:
AlexdKJV wrote:
Sorry, I know that did not sound right now that you two posted those quotes!...

I was referring to the fact that I do not go to parties where booze is present unless it is a family gathering and I have the opportunity to be a good testimony to the others.

Sadly, not too many adults have birthday parties anymore, and most of those that do have booze served at those parties. Thus, I thought of children and wrote it...
but Jesus is famous for homebrewing wine
Wine, as in non-alcoholic grape juice.

The term "wine" was given to all grape juice, both fermented and non-fermented, until Welch's coined the term "grape juice" in the early 19th century.

Just a little history lesson...

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Post by Dingo Starr » Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:01 am

AlexdKJV wrote:IFB churches take their doctrine directly from the Lord's Inerrant Word with no man-made tradition mixed in.
It's hard to take this statement seriously when you quoted from the apostles ITT. Wouldn't the Lord's word (absent any man-made tradition) be the recorded words of Jesus and relevant materials from the Old Testament?

In any event, you may have better luck working backwards, as others suggested already. Find acceptable churches within 1hr driving (65ish miles) of the best ranking schools available and then eliminate the schools from that list that are unacceptable to you. I bet it's short work, TBH, considering the long list of limiting factors.

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Post by downinDtown » Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:03 am

AlexdKJV wrote:Hello Everyone,

I am new to this site and would like to introduce myself as well as ask for advice.

My name is Alex and I, as you may be able to guess by my username and subject line, am a born-again Christian. I am taking the LSAT in June and plan to enroll in law school in 2015. I hope to be able to use my future J.D. for the ministry.

I am an Independent Fundamental Baptist (yes, one of those "crazy" fundamentalists as many here have called them in previous discussions within this forum) who stands for the precious Authorized 1611 King James Bible, old-fashioned hymns, hard preaching, soul winning, modesty, separation, the local church, and high standards. Knowing that I will be in a very small minority in terms of my beliefs virtually anywhere I go to law school, I would nevertheless like to be at a school that has some like-minded people or at least a sizable born-again population (NOT Catholic, Mormon, etc. - Yes, I am strongly opposed to ecumenism).

Additionally, I am very politically involved. My political views are a bit more libertarian than those of many born-again Christians and conservatives particularly on foreign policy and "national security" issues. I believe that the US government should return to the gold standard, withdraw from the United Nations (and force the UN off of our soil), stop starting needless wars in foreign countries, fully restore the people's Second Amendment rights, stop the warrantless data mining/wiretapping of the communications of private citizens, fully restore the Biblical separation of church and state (i.e. end the "faith-based initiatives" programs), and fully restore the sovereignty of the individual state and local governments. Essentially, I agree with the US Constitution Party on most political issues and would like to see someone like Ron Paul (if he were younger), Rand Paul, or Ted Cruz (if he is eligible) become President in 2016. As with Biblical doctrine, I do not believe in compromise within the political arena.

That said, I was wondering which law schools would be most likely to have individuals such as myself within their student body. I would assume that most such schools would be in the South. Baylor looked like a fairly decent fit upon first glance since despite the fact that they are Southern Baptist they do have a sizable number of born-again Christians within their student body and faculty. I am sure there are some other schools, including public schools, that lean to the right politically and have a sizable number of born-again believers. I would be curious to know what any of them are. (NOTE: Please do not recommend BYU or Notre Dame - I refuse to even consider going to either!)

Again, I know I will be in a very small minority anywhere I go, but I have learned to deal with the scorn and ridicule of liberals quite well. I would be happy if there were even five other students very similar to me. Of course, the more like me, the better.

Anyone is welcome to give their feedback. Yes, I still love those whose persuasions are different than mine and will respect their right to disagree with me as well. I have nothing against being friends with people who have different viewpoints - I just will not compromise the Truth and the Constitution for the purpose of appeasing others! Just to clear up any doubts...

Thanks!

-Alex
I have to ask: how much are you willing to sacrifice in terms of employment prospects for a school that fits your ideological/religious beliefs?

And what about after law school? What are your plans as a practicing attorney? If you're taking out loans to fund your LS education, I'm assuming you'll have to chase that "filthy lucre" to pay down that debt. How selective can you be in finding a place of employment that meets all of these criteria? (Unless there are tons of non-profits or PI that I'm unaware of that meet all of your criteria).

You do realize that if you go work at some firm you may have to work with clients or projects that you are ideologically opposed to? Or are you wanting to open your own shop and go solo? And would you ever take a client who has done something contrary to your religious views? Clients don't like to pay their bills when you tell them they're going to hell....

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Post by Cicero76 » Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:04 am

Midwest17 wrote: What about the Orthodox?
Nah. Those bros protested our screwing up their creed by mistranslating procedit and adding Filioque all the way back in 1054, they been protesting ever since
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OP, what is your LSAT/GPA? What are your career goals aside from doing pro bono work for churches?

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Re: Best Law Schools for Born-Again Christians

Post by AlexdKJV » Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:07 am

sublime wrote:
AlexdKJV wrote: You may view my Twitter profile to verify: @AlexdlT1611 All tweets, followers, and following are public and real, and I follow back anyone who follows me and is not a spammer or someone who only posts vulgar messages (they get blocked and reported), so I follow plenty of liberals too.

JFC at your feed.


Anyway, I may have missed it, but as someone else pointed out, why do you want a JD as opposed to some sort of religious degree? Like what do you hope to do?
I hope to start a firm or an organization like the Christian Law Association.

http://www.christianlaw.org/cla/

Some local churches also have legal ministries, such as Lighthouse Baptist Church.

http://lighthousebaptistministries.org/pages.php?ID=23

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Post by AlexdKJV » Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:10 am

brotherdarkness wrote:OP, what is your LSAT/GPA? What are your career goals aside from doing pro bono work for churches?
GPA was a little low, 2.95. However, I graduated in 2011, so time and a good LSAT may erase that.

I am studying for the LSAT now; I have not taken it previously. I am shooting to get above a 170 (I got a 160 on my first practice test and have dedicated most of my time outside of work and church to studying).

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coldshoulder wrote:I really, really wish this was a troll :shock:
Why? Are you too thin-skinned to deal with someone different than you or something? Just curious...

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Post by Mal Reynolds » Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:19 am

AlexdKJV wrote:
Mal Reynolds wrote:Leviticus says I should stone my daughter if she works on a Sunday. Should I do this?
No, it does not.

Even if Leviticus did say that, we are living in a different dispensation. Leviticus was the law for the Jews to keep under the Mosaic covenant. We are now living in the age of grace.

Besides, Gentiles such as myself were never under the law, so that is not really applicable to us in terms of following it. Of course, it is still important to read in order to understand the Bible in the aggregate...
So then what is your textual basis for hating gay people.

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Post by MistakenGenius » Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:24 am

I have never read a post that made me think flame faster than this one. You claim to respect all others' beliefs, yet you go off against Catholics and Mormons. But, I'll help you on the off chance that you're not a flame. If you truly want to help your ministry, then you're going to want to go to the best school you can get into. Even if that means Berkeley or Yale, you'll just have to bite your lip and spend 3 years with us heathens. If you're serious about wanting to go to a school with a large Christian population and are not as interested in being a lawyer, then two schools come to mind. Regent University is a pretty large school in Virginia. It's a private, Christian University founded by Pat Robertson. They have a very large Baptist population and a large number of born again christians. Honestly, it seems like your dream school. Look it up. The other is Liberty University, they're a very big Christian school also in Virginia. It is also worth exploring. I wouldn't ask any of us our opinions on the schools that fit your desires though.

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Based on what you plan to do with your JD, it really doesn't matter if you go to a TTTT. It's not like you're trying to get a firm job or anything.

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Post by AlexdKJV » Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:27 am

Dingo Starr wrote:
AlexdKJV wrote:IFB churches take their doctrine directly from the Lord's Inerrant Word with no man-made tradition mixed in.
It's hard to take this statement seriously when you quoted from the apostles ITT. Wouldn't the Lord's word (absent any man-made tradition) be the recorded words of Jesus and relevant materials from the Old Testament?

In any event, you may have better luck working backwards, as others suggested already. Find acceptable churches within 1hr driving (65ish miles) of the best ranking schools available and then eliminate the schools from that list that are unacceptable to you. I bet it's short work, TBH, considering the long list of limiting factors.
All sixty-six books, from Genesis to Revelation, are the Lord's Inerrant Word in their entirety.

Although people (sinners) are speaking, writing, acting, etc. the other books, every writer of ever book wrote under divinely inspired revelation. Such revelation is no longer in existence since Scripture is now complete (it is a sign gift, just as healing and speaking in tongues were sign gifts - that is, used for the completion of Scripture and no longer among us since Scripture is now complete).

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obvious troll is obvious

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drawstring wrote:obvious troll is obvious
Dude posted his twitter. This is def. not a flame.

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Ron Mexico wrote:
drawstring wrote:obvious troll is obvious
Dude posted his twitter. This is def. not a flame.
Maybe not flame, but he certainly seems more interested in the replies about his religion than the ones about his options for law school.

Seriously? What are you waiting for?

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