YLS is a myth. Have you ever met somebody who went there? No.booboo wrote:This thread makes me want to put three T's into every school not Yale.
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D. H2Oman wrote:[strike]No, you can't[/strike] I graduated with a 2.8, and my only option of getting into law school was to study my butt off for the LSATcdd_04 wrote:I resent that!Desert Fox wrote:Anyone who can't get a 170 on their LSAT is borderline unemployable.Why must I be such a FAILURE in life? Wait, I can get a 170, I just didn't
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cdd_04 wrote:D. H2Oman wrote:[strike]No, you can't[/strike] I graduated with a 2.8, and my only option of getting into law school was to study my butt off for the LSATcdd_04 wrote:I resent that!Desert Fox wrote:Anyone who can't get a 170 on their LSAT is borderline unemployable.Why must I be such a FAILURE in life? Wait, I can get a 170, I just didn't
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I have, it does exist. They're out of touch with reality though. I've also listened to dozens of lectures by YLS faculty found on Itunes. I also check out the Yale Law Journal (http://www.yalelawjournal.org/) and after these investigations, I can confidently conclude that YLS ideas might have a certain "academic" quality (re: pretension) but it's always 20/20 hindsight/too-little-too-late type analysis of legal issues and externalities in the world. I think the stick up their buttocks is a huge disadvantage.NayBoer wrote:YLS is a myth. Have you ever met somebody who went there? No.booboo wrote:This thread makes me want to put three T's into every school not Yale.
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Nightrunner wrote:reasonabledoubt wrote:I have, it does exist. They're out of touch with reality though. I've also listened to dozens of lectures by YLS faculty found on Itunes. I also check out the Yale Law Journal (http://www.yalelawjournal.org/) and after these investigations, I can confidently conclude that YLS ideas might have a certain "academic" quality (re: pretension) but it's always 20/20 hindsight/too-little-too-late type analysis of legal issues and externalities in the world. I think the stick up their buttocks is a huge disadvantage.NayBoer wrote:YLS is a myth. Have you ever met somebody who went there? No.booboo wrote:This thread makes me want to put three T's into every school not Yale.
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So does reasonable doubt just start these threads as a soapbox for him to rant about nothing in particular?
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That's unfair, there's particulars involved. RC fail.Na_Swatch wrote:So does reasonable doubt just start these threads as a soapbox for him to rant about nothing in particular?
I was hoping to explore and discuss some less-often-discussed but quality schools. Top in TLS doesn't have to refer only to subjective rankings of one magazine, ya know? This site isn't called, "US NEWS AND WORLD REPORT HIGHEST RANKED LAW SCHOOLS."
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Not to get all up in everyone's bizznuzz about degrading nomenclature, but TTT stands for "Third Tier Toilet". What does TTTT stand for, Third Tier Toilet's Toilet?
Just use 3T and 4T if you need to abbreviate.
Just use 3T and 4T if you need to abbreviate.
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Give him a break, his kids don't visit him anymore and Friendly's early bird special doesn't start for another 45 minutes.Na_Swatch wrote:So does reasonable doubt just start these threads as a soapbox for him to rant about nothing in particular?
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Bosque wrote:Not to get all up in everyone's bizznuzz about degrading nomenclature, but TTT stands for "Third Tier Toilet". What does TTTT stand for, Third Tier Toilet's Toilet?
Just use 3T and 4T if you need to abbreviate.
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Hmmm, so discussing lower ranked quality schools involves claiming greater understanding and personal superiority over the Yale Law Review and entire Yale Law educational system? Righhhhtttreasonabledoubt wrote:That's unfair, there's particulars involved. RC fail.Na_Swatch wrote:So does reasonable doubt just start these threads as a soapbox for him to rant about nothing in particular?
I was hoping to explore and discuss some less-often-discussed but quality schools. Top in TLS doesn't have to refer only to subjective rankings of one magazine, ya know?
reasonabledoubt wrote:.... also check out the Yale Law Journal (http://www.yalelawjournal.org/) and after these investigations, I can confidently conclude that YLS ideas might have a certain "academic" quality (re: pretension) but it's always 20/20 hindsight/too-little-too-late type analysis of legal issues and externalities in the world.
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That just seems silly. There has got be a more creative way of insulting the fourth tier.D. H2Oman wrote:Bosque wrote:Not to get all up in everyone's bizznuzz about degrading nomenclature, but TTT stands for "Third Tier Toilet". What does TTTT stand for, Third Tier Toilet's Toilet?
Just use 3T and 4T if you need to abbreviate.
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reasonabledoubt wrote:That's unfair, there's particulars involved. RC fail.Na_Swatch wrote:So does reasonable doubt just start these threads as a soapbox for him to rant about nothing in particular?
I was hoping to explore and discuss some less-often-discussed but quality schools. Top in TLS doesn't have to refer only to subjective rankings of one magazine, ya know? This site isn't called, "US NEWS AND WORLD REPORT HIGHEST RANKED LAW SCHOOLS."

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Lol - here waterman is making a reference to my age which is 30. He thinks my balls are old but I think they are youthful and vibrant. He should know.D. H2Oman wrote:Give him a break, his kids don't visit him anymore and Friendly's early bird special doesn't start for another 45 minutes.Na_Swatch wrote:So does reasonable doubt just start these threads as a soapbox for him to rant about nothing in particular?
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You can always start calling them Law School Technical Institutes.Bosque wrote:That just seems silly. There has got be a more creative way of insulting the fourth tier.D. H2Oman wrote:Bosque wrote:Not to get all up in everyone's bizznuzz about degrading nomenclature, but TTT stands for "Third Tier Toilet". What does TTTT stand for, Third Tier Toilet's Toilet?
Just use 3T and 4T if you need to abbreviate.
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You must have been bad at book reports.Na_Swatch wrote:Hmmm, so discussing lower ranked quality schools involves claiming greater understanding and personal superiority over the Yale Law Review and entire Yale Law educational system? Righhhhtttreasonabledoubt wrote:That's unfair, there's particulars involved. RC fail.Na_Swatch wrote:So does reasonable doubt just start these threads as a soapbox for him to rant about nothing in particular?
I was hoping to explore and discuss some less-often-discussed but quality schools. Top in TLS doesn't have to refer only to subjective rankings of one magazine, ya know?
reasonabledoubt wrote:.... also check out the Yale Law Journal (http://www.yalelawjournal.org/) and after these investigations, I can confidently conclude that YLS ideas might have a certain "academic" quality (re: pretension) but it's always 20/20 hindsight/too-little-too-late type analysis of legal issues and externalities in the world.
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Is this really a thread discussing the merits of Valaparaiso (i probably spelled that wrong, but who cares, its Valpo) and the demerits of Yale?reasonabledoubt wrote: I'll start: Valparaiso U. Yes, a T-4, but it's about an hour out of Chicago and has some pretty impressive faculty. As an aside, G-dubya Bush spoke at the school's anniversay a few years ago. They were once called, "the poor man's harvard," but not sure if that's a relatively good or bad thing. In any case, I've had a few friends go to this school (as well as some of their parents) and they're all doing remarkably well. It seems to place well in NWI region as well as Chicago. Who else has some hidden gems to speak of?
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Prestigious firms hire students from prestigious schools. You can argue that you can get just as good of an education at so and so law school but in reality it doesn't matter. The smartest people get into the top schools. Odds are the kid at Harvard is smarter than the get at the T3 regardless of if they took the same classes. Also, the companies and people paying for these firms legal services do not want to hire a bunch of "hidden gems" from Phoenix College of law. They want graduates from big name schools. Its just the way things are and its probably never going to change.reasonabledoubt wrote:That's unfair, there's particulars involved. RC fail.Na_Swatch wrote:So does reasonable doubt just start these threads as a soapbox for him to rant about nothing in particular?
I was hoping to explore and discuss some less-often-discussed but quality schools. Top in TLS doesn't have to refer only to subjective rankings of one magazine, ya know? This site isn't called, "US NEWS AND WORLD REPORT HIGHEST RANKED LAW SCHOOLS."
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I assume by your authoritative assertions that you are a recruiter from Cravath, right?osi wrote:Prestigious firms hire students from prestigious schools. You can argue that you can get just as good of an education at so and so law school but in reality it doesn't matter. The smartest people get into the top schools. Odds are the kid at Harvard is smarter than the get at the T3 regardless of if they took the same classes. Also, the companies and people paying for these firms legal services do not want to hire a bunch of "hidden gems" from Phoenix College of law. They want graduates from big name schools. Its just the way things are and its probably never going to change.reasonabledoubt wrote:That's unfair, there's particulars involved. RC fail.Na_Swatch wrote:So does reasonable doubt just start these threads as a soapbox for him to rant about nothing in particular?
I was hoping to explore and discuss some less-often-discussed but quality schools. Top in TLS doesn't have to refer only to subjective rankings of one magazine, ya know? This site isn't called, "US NEWS AND WORLD REPORT HIGHEST RANKED LAW SCHOOLS."
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Or Law Centers.mistergoft wrote:You can always start calling them Law School Technical Institutes.Bosque wrote:That just seems silly. There has got be a more creative way of insulting the fourth tier.D. H2Oman wrote:Bosque wrote:Not to get all up in everyone's bizznuzz about degrading nomenclature, but TTT stands for "Third Tier Toilet". What does TTTT stand for, Third Tier Toilet's Toilet?
Just use 3T and 4T if you need to abbreviate.
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Yeah, that's what's up. You have a problem with that? Is that too much cognitive dissonance or something?Kobe_Teeth wrote:Is this really a thread discussing the merits of Valaparaiso (i probably spelled that wrong, but who cares, its Valpo) and the demerits of Yale?reasonabledoubt wrote: I'll start: Valparaiso U. Yes, a T-4, but it's about an hour out of Chicago and has some pretty impressive faculty. As an aside, G-dubya Bush spoke at the school's anniversay a few years ago. They were once called, "the poor man's harvard," but not sure if that's a relatively good or bad thing. In any case, I've had a few friends go to this school (as well as some of their parents) and they're all doing remarkably well. It seems to place well in NWI region as well as Chicago. Who else has some hidden gems to speak of?
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I vote for calling them paralegal certificate schools.mistergoft wrote:You can always start calling them Law School Technical Institutes.Bosque wrote:That just seems silly. There has got be a more creative way of insulting the fourth tier.D. H2Oman wrote:Bosque wrote:Not to get all up in everyone's bizznuzz about degrading nomenclature, but TTT stands for "Third Tier Toilet". What does TTTT stand for, Third Tier Toilet's Toilet?
Just use 3T and 4T if you need to abbreviate.
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osi wrote:Prestigious firms hire students from prestigious schools. You can argue that you can get just as good of an education at so and so law school but in reality it doesn't matter. The smartest people get into the top schools. Odds are the kid at Harvard is smarter than the get at the T3 regardless of if they took the same classes. Also, the companies and people paying for these firms legal services do not want to hire a bunch of "hidden gems" from Phoenix College of law. They want graduates from big name schools. Its just the way things are and its probably never going to change.reasonabledoubt wrote:That's unfair, there's particulars involved. RC fail.Na_Swatch wrote:So does reasonable doubt just start these threads as a soapbox for him to rant about nothing in particular?
I was hoping to explore and discuss some less-often-discussed but quality schools. Top in TLS doesn't have to refer only to subjective rankings of one magazine, ya know? This site isn't called, "US NEWS AND WORLD REPORT HIGHEST RANKED LAW SCHOOLS."
You know what else was around a long time that people thought would never change? Slavery. I mean, prestigious land owners wanted cheap, exploitable labor. Wait, the more I think about it, slavery still exists. Point-formulation-fail on my part.

What I was hoping to inspire with this thread was an anti-ranking, egalitarian, discussion of quality schools in small to medium markets. That's tough to do....
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You must have been a Psychology major. Why would that create cognitive dissonance? (Psychology and Biology minor herereasonabledoubt wrote:Yeah, that's what's up. You have a problem with that? Is that too much cognitive dissonance or something?Kobe_Teeth wrote:Is this really a thread discussing the merits of Valaparaiso (i probably spelled that wrong, but who cares, its Valpo) and the demerits of Yale?reasonabledoubt wrote: I'll start: Valparaiso U. Yes, a T-4, but it's about an hour out of Chicago and has some pretty impressive faculty. As an aside, G-dubya Bush spoke at the school's anniversay a few years ago. They were once called, "the poor man's harvard," but not sure if that's a relatively good or bad thing. In any case, I've had a few friends go to this school (as well as some of their parents) and they're all doing remarkably well. It seems to place well in NWI region as well as Chicago. Who else has some hidden gems to speak of?

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God you are so lame.D. H2Oman wrote:/threadreasonabledoubt wrote:[strike]In a dual effort to establish a more complete library of info relating to schools as well as expose a few "sleepers" in the accredited LS mix, I introduce this thread.
This is for chatting about those schools which no one seems to chat about here.....
Surely there's some good ones out there that don't get the TLS press coverage they deserve.... maybe there's a few T3's (or, gasp, TTTT's) that someone had a friend or family member who had gone there and they have great information on. Maybe you grew up around XXX school that's a T3 but enjoys a remarkable level of prestige and placement in a 30 square mile radius of wherever, USA. Believe it or not, this kind of stuff appeals to some people.
I'll start: Valparaiso U. Yes, a T-4, but it's about an hour out of Chicago and has some pretty impressive faculty. As an aside, G-dubya Bush spoke at the school's anniversay a few years ago. They were once called, "the poor man's harvard," but not sure if that's a relatively good or bad thing. In any case, I've had a few friends go to this school (as well as some of their parents) and they're all doing remarkably well. It seems to place well in NWI region as well as Chicago. Who else has some hidden gems to speak of[/strike]?
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