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Clemenceau · Post by **Clemenceau** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 2:57 pm

Having a pretty good idea of what a class of law students is like socially and physically, 70%+ bl/fc anywhere is pretty remarkable to me

toothbrush · Post by **toothbrush** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 2:57 pm

WeeBey wrote:
Tiago Splitter wrote:People were probably getting a few more offers in the absolute heyday but this is about as good as you'll see.
Pretty fucking peaches IMO.

I know that the c/o 2016's OCI wasn't "peaches" especially for people at median. It was a struggle with people jobless through December despite actively looking. Sure, they got jobs, and the numbers will be strong I'm sure, but don't overstate it

also, this:

Tiago Splitter wrote: Also a word of warning: The kind of business activity that is driving this amount of hiring is extremely hot right now. But it won't stay this way forever.

TheodoreKGB · Post by **TheodoreKGB** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 2:58 pm

Tiago Splitter · Post by **Tiago Splitter** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 2:59 pm

toothbrush wrote:
WeeBey wrote:
Tiago Splitter wrote:People were probably getting a few more offers in the absolute heyday but this is about as good as you'll see.
Pretty fucking peaches IMO.
I know that the c/o 2016's OCI wasn't "peaches" especially for people at median. It was a struggle with people jobless through December despite actively looking. Sure, they got jobs, and the numbers will be strong I'm sure, but don't overstate it.

Some of this might be schools doing better with people who struck out at OCI. With the market the way it is striking out hasn't been a death sentence in the last couple of years.

starry eyed · Post by **starry eyed** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 2:59 pm

Clemenceau wrote:Having a pretty good idea of what a class of law students is like socially and physically, 70%+ bl/fc anywhere is pretty remarkable to me

would you say they are worse socially and physically at the top schools?

King Cayuga · Post by **King Cayuga** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 3:00 pm

Should we see the class of 2014 as some sort of peak or has summer hiring been just as good at T14s since OCI 2012?

toothbrush · Post by **toothbrush** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 3:02 pm

King Cayuga wrote:Should we see the class of 2014 as some sort of peak or has summer hiring been just as good at T14s since OCI 2012?

As Tiago is hammering home, corporate hiring is insane right now. So I'd say OCI should be good for your class still.

starry eyed wrote:
Clemenceau wrote:Having a pretty good idea of what a class of law students is like socially and physically, 70%+ bl/fc anywhere is pretty remarkable to me
would you say they are worse socially and physically at the top schools?

zombie mcavoy · Post by **zombie mcavoy** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 3:11 pm

should lit gunners not be encouraged by the uptick, then? Continue assuming death, despair, etc.?

JFO1833 · Post by **JFO1833** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 3:19 pm

Washington University (they seem to have uploaded the file to the wrong place):

http://law.wustl.edu/admissions/documen ... rt2015.pdf

18: WUSTL - BL+FC-31%, FTLTBR-78%, FTLTBR (w/o LSF)-73%

Also got this one:
RNP: Golden Gate - BL+FC-3%, FTLTBR-25%, FTLTBR (w/o LSF)-24%

Total (84 schools): Totals: BL+FC-15%, FTLTBR-57%, FTLTBR (w/o LSF)-55%

starry eyed · Post by **starry eyed** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 3:51 pm

mediocre as always WUSTL

rackylo · Post by **rackylo** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 3:59 pm

Cornell:

BL+FC = 64.4% + 9.95% = 74.35%

Long Term (Full Time) - Bar Required: 95.81% (183/191)

BL: 123/191=64.4%
FC: 19/191= 9.95%

School Funded (Both Long Term FT and Long Term PT): 6.28% (12/191)

See: http://www.lawschool.cornell.edu/career ... ummary.pdf

P.S.: Just noted that someone has posted about Cornell. Sorry for double posting.

Winston1984 · Post by **Winston1984** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:11 pm

Also got this one:
RNP: Golden Gate - BL+FC-3%, FTLTBR-25%, FTLTBR (w/o LSF)-24%

Only a quarter of the class? This is fucking absurd.

TheodoreKGB · Post by **TheodoreKGB** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:13 pm

Wingtip88 · Post by **Wingtip88** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:22 pm

Winston1984 wrote:
Also got this one:
RNP: Golden Gate - BL+FC-3%, FTLTBR-25%, FTLTBR (w/o LSF)-24%
Only a quarter of the class? This is fucking absurd.

WHY are people still enrolling at these places?

starry eyed · Post by **starry eyed** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:23 pm

Wingtip88 wrote:
Winston1984 wrote:
Also got this one:
RNP: Golden Gate - BL+FC-3%, FTLTBR-25%, FTLTBR (w/o LSF)-24%
Only a quarter of the class? This is fucking absurd.
WHY are people still enrolling at these places?

I would assume the same reason we apply (no better option), but they are working with much lower numbers and not very good at research.

Tiago Splitter · Post by **Tiago Splitter** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:24 pm

Wingtip88 wrote:
Winston1984 wrote:
Also got this one:
RNP: Golden Gate - BL+FC-3%, FTLTBR-25%, FTLTBR (w/o LSF)-24%
Only a quarter of the class? This is fucking absurd.
WHY are people still enrolling at these places?

GGU 2010: 320 1L's
GGU 2014: 137 1L's

And that's with a median drop from 154 to 149. They won't be enrolling there for much longer.

Username123 · Post by **Username123** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:26 pm

Florida State - http://www.law.fsu.edu/docs/default-sou ... f?sfvrsn=6

BL + FC = 7%
FTLTBR (excluding solo and LSF) = 65.2%

exitoptions · Post by **exitoptions** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:31 pm

Tiago Splitter wrote:
Wingtip88 wrote:
Winston1984 wrote:
Also got this one:
RNP: Golden Gate - BL+FC-3%, FTLTBR-25%, FTLTBR (w/o LSF)-24%
Only a quarter of the class? This is fucking absurd.
WHY are people still enrolling at these places?
GGU 2010: 320 1L's
GGU 2014: 137 1L's

And that's with a median drop from 154 to 149. They won't be enrolling there for much longer.

149 Median should mean immediate, automatic de-accreditation by the ABA...

JFO1833 · Post by **JFO1833** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:47 pm

50: Florida State - BL+FC-7%, FTLTBR-66%, FTLTBR (w/o LSF)-66%: http://www.law.fsu.edu/docs/default-sou ... f?sfvrsn=6

Also these:
94: Mississippi - BL+FC-7%, FTLTBR-51%, FTLTBR (w/o LSF)-51%
105: Marquette - BL+FC-13%, FTLTBR-49%, FTLTBR (w/o LSF)-49%
RNP: California Western - BL+FC-4%, FTLTBR-45%, FTLTBR (w/o LSF)-45%

Cobretti · Post by **Cobretti** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:49 pm

King Cayuga wrote:Should we see the class of 2014 as some sort of peak or has summer hiring been just as good at T14s since OCI 2012?

at NU 2012<2013<2014

pamphleteer · Post by **pamphleteer** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 5:22 pm

WUSTL's drop seems a bit concerning, especially since their c/o 2014 was a lot smaller than 2013 and in light of ND's placement rate.

LET'S GET IT · Post by **LET'S GET IT** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 5:29 pm

pamphleteer wrote:WUSTL's drop seems a bit concerning, especially since their c/o 2014 was a lot smaller than 2013 and in light of ND's placement rate.

Yeah and USC & UCLA both 10% better than us. Really disappointing.

Moneytrees · Post by **Moneytrees** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 5:35 pm

LET'S GET IT wrote:
pamphleteer wrote:WUSTL's drop seems a bit concerning, especially since their c/o 2014 was a lot smaller than 2013 and in light of ND's placement rate.
Yeah and USC & UCLA both 10% better than us. Really disappointing.

It's not really news, though. WUSTL is a great regional school but the Biglaw outcomes have always lagged behind other good regional schools like USC and BU because it doesn't really have a home market to place graduates into.

pamphleteer · Post by **pamphleteer** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 5:38 pm

LET'S GET IT wrote:
pamphleteer wrote:WUSTL's drop seems a bit concerning, especially since their c/o 2014 was a lot smaller than 2013 and in light of ND's placement rate.
Yeah and USC & UCLA both 10% better than us. Really disappointing.

WUSTL's location probably prevents it from seriously competing with the SoCal schools (so it's impressive when it outdoes USC, like last year) but you'd think they wouldn't do 7% worse than Notre Dame which has similar geographic issues.

Username123 · Post by **Username123** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 5:38 pm

Moneytrees wrote:
LET'S GET IT wrote:
pamphleteer wrote:WUSTL's drop seems a bit concerning, especially since their c/o 2014 was a lot smaller than 2013 and in light of ND's placement rate.
Yeah and USC & UCLA both 10% better than us. Really disappointing.
It's not really news, though. WUSTL is a great regional school but the Biglaw outcomes have always lagged behind other good regional schools like USC and BU because it doesn't really have a home market to place graduates into.

Yeah, St. LOLuis can't compare to Boston, LA, Chicago, etc.

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