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whymeohgodno

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by whymeohgodno » Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:07 pm
im_blue wrote:whymeohgodno wrote:
Very few people are as Cornell crazy as you are, may i ask why Cornell?
The only places I would consider going to law school is either in Boston, NY, and Chicago. I hate the west coast and I hate the south.
Also I'm paranoid about job prospects and would like to attend a t14 school. My gpa is around a 3.78 with a year left, and my PT scores seem to indicate that the t14 school I would best have a shot at is Cornell. I wouldn't have a realistic shot at Chicago, Columbia, NYU unless I perform better than my average on the real LSAT (which is unrealistic).
Thus it leaves me with Cornell.
I also love cold weather and upstate NY. Call me crazy but Ithaca is beautiful.
I would say you're going to need a 167 to have any shot at a T14, and a 168 for a good shot. If that doesn't pan out this year, work on raising your GPA above 3.8 and reapply next year.
Is there really a big difference between a 3.8 and a high 3.7x?
And yeh. I agree. Anything below a 168 would put me out of the running at all t14 other than Cornell and would probably WL/Reject me at Cornell.
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WestOfTheRest

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by WestOfTheRest » Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:09 pm
whymeohgodno wrote:im_blue wrote:whymeohgodno wrote:
Very few people are as Cornell crazy as you are, may i ask why Cornell?
The only places I would consider going to law school is either in Boston, NY, and Chicago. I hate the west coast and I hate the south.
Also I'm paranoid about job prospects and would like to attend a t14 school. My gpa is around a 3.78 with a year left, and my PT scores seem to indicate that the t14 school I would best have a shot at is Cornell. I wouldn't have a realistic shot at Chicago, Columbia, NYU unless I perform better than my average on the real LSAT (which is unrealistic).
Thus it leaves me with Cornell.
I also love cold weather and upstate NY. Call me crazy but Ithaca is beautiful.
I would say you're going to need a 167 to have any shot at a T14, and a 168 for a good shot. If that doesn't pan out this year, work on raising your GPA above 3.8 and reapply next year.
Is there really a big difference between a 3.8 and a high 3.7x?
And yeh. I agree. Anything below a 168 would put me out of the running at all t14 other than Cornell and would probably WL/Reject me at Cornell.
Why don't you wait to take the lsat until you're performing your best.
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im_blue

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by im_blue » Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:10 pm
whymeohgodno wrote:im_blue wrote:whymeohgodno wrote:
Very few people are as Cornell crazy as you are, may i ask why Cornell?
The only places I would consider going to law school is either in Boston, NY, and Chicago. I hate the west coast and I hate the south.
Also I'm paranoid about job prospects and would like to attend a t14 school. My gpa is around a 3.78 with a year left, and my PT scores seem to indicate that the t14 school I would best have a shot at is Cornell. I wouldn't have a realistic shot at Chicago, Columbia, NYU unless I perform better than my average on the real LSAT (which is unrealistic).
Thus it leaves me with Cornell.
I also love cold weather and upstate NY. Call me crazy but Ithaca is beautiful.
I would say you're going to need a 167 to have any shot at a T14, and a 168 for a good shot. If that doesn't pan out this year, work on raising your GPA above 3.8 and reapply next year.
Is there really a big difference between a 3.8 and a high 3.7x?
And yeh. I agree. Anything below a 168 would put me out of the running at all t14 other than Cornell and would probably WL/Reject me at Cornell.
A low 3.8x/168 would give you a chance at some other T14s like Berkeley, Michigan, Northwestern, and Georgetown.
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whymeohgodno

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by whymeohgodno » Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:12 pm
A low 3.8x/168 would give you a chance at some other T14s like Berkeley, Michigan, Northwestern, and Georgetown.
I really wouldn't hope on it. I have what should be considered as negative softs. Rly, they don't even exist.
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by beachbum » Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:08 pm
whymeohgodno wrote:
A low 3.8x/168 would give you a chance at some other T14s like Berkeley, Michigan, Northwestern, and Georgetown.
I really wouldn't hope on it. I have what should be considered as negative softs. Rly, they don't even exist.
I'm gonna be kinda blunt here, why don't you just... do something? I seem to recall you making a handful of posts a while back about your lack of softs- have you done anything since then to add to your resume? Conventional wisdom on TLS is that softs don't matter, but if you truly have a blank page where your resume should be, well, I can't imagine it's going to do you any favors. Best not leave things to chance and get to volunteering/joining some clubs/working on your relationship with your LOR writers. You still have a month or so to make it happen, and something is better than nothing.
Anyway, I'll step off my soapbox. Good luck with the LSAT.
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im_blue

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by im_blue » Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:28 am
SMU
2010: 3.75/164 FT
2009: 3.76/164
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im_blue

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by im_blue » Tue Oct 05, 2010 5:31 pm
Wisconsin
2010: 3.63 / 163
2009: 3.60 / 162
North Carolina
2010: 3.50 / 163
2009: 3.58 / 162
Villanova
2010: 3.33 / 160
2009: 3.44 / 162
UConn
2010: 3.43 / 161
2009: 3.43 / 162
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by 005618502 » Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:48 pm
im_blue wrote:Wisconsin
2010: 3.63 / 163
2009: 3.60 / 162
North Carolina
2010: 3.50 / 163
2009: 3.58 / 162
Villanova
2010: 3.33 / 160
2009: 3.44 / 162
UConn
2010: 3.43 / 161
2009: 3.43 / 162
Geese Villanova got crushed! wonder what happened.
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by r6_philly » Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:18 pm
jt1341 wrote:im_blue wrote:Wisconsin
2010: 3.63 / 163
2009: 3.60 / 162
North Carolina
2010: 3.50 / 163
2009: 3.58 / 162
Villanova
2010: 3.33 / 160
2009: 3.44 / 162
UConn
2010: 3.43 / 161
2009: 3.43 / 162
Geese Villanova got crushed! wonder what happened.
Wonder what would happen to the ranking? That's a shame, with a new building and all. Maybe their tuition is too high for what it is (it is).
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im_blue

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by im_blue » Wed Oct 06, 2010 2:50 am
Texas
2010: 3.71 / 167
2009: 3.71 / 167
BYU
2010: 3.75 / 164
2009: 3.74 / 163
UC Hastings
2010: 3.60 / 164
2009: 3.58 / 164
UC Davis
2010: 3.69 / 163
2009: 3.51 / 163
Washington
2010: 3.65 / 163
2009: 3.66 / 163
Richmond
2010: 3.47 / 162
2009: 3.48 / 161
Houston
2010: 3.41 / 162
2009: 3.37 / 162
Temple
2010: 3.44 / 161
2009: 3.41 / 161
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by jjr3 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:56 pm
University of Toronto:
2010: 168/3.85
2009: 167/3.85
First Year J.D. Class (2010-2011)
Applicants 2,220
Class Size 194
Graduate degrees 19%
Median LSAT 168 (96th)
Median GPA 85.9% (3.85 approx.)
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Osgoode Hall (York University)
2010: 162/3.67
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by im_blue » Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:57 pm
Arizona
2010: 3.50 / 162
2009: 3.51 / 161
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by ahduth » Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:50 pm
JusticeHarlan wrote:This thread deserves a bump.
Yeah, this is quite useful reference material here. 25/75 is great, but these medians seem to be what it's all about.
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whymeohgodno

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by whymeohgodno » Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:39 pm
I'm surprised their medians barely even moved.
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by im_blue » Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:46 pm
whymeohgodno wrote:
I'm surprised their medians barely even moved.
Penn went from 6th highest median GPA last year (behind HYS, V, B) to a tie for 4th with UVA this year, and they take far fewer reverse splitters than V. This is probably as high as they can go.
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by 2014 » Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:25 am
You would still be above the median everywhere and there is no school with a 75th at 3.93 or 3.94 as far as I can tell, so you won't even get hurt there.
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by rayiner » Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:08 pm
Official numbers for NU finally posted:
http://www.law.northwestern.edu/admissions/profile/
C/O 2013:
LSAT: 166-170-171
GPA: 3.4-3.8-3.9
C/O 2012:
LSAT: 166-170-172
GPA: 3.4-3.7-3.8
Looks like they traded a bit of LSAT at the top for a bump in the GPA median.
Also interesting: 88% of the class has 2+ years of WE, up from 84% the previous year.
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by Philosopher1 » Sat Mar 19, 2011 1:59 pm
Does anyone know (edit) Class of '13 median LSAT score and median GPA, and what would those numbers be?
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by canarykb » Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:44 am
Maybe this is an obvious question, but I haven't seen an answer posted to it yet! So much of the law school predictors are based on GPA vs. LSAT, but I was wondering how your undergrad institution factored in?
I have a 3.7 (85th percentile at my undergrad) but my undergrad was a top 10 liberal arts school. Does that make a difference in terms of how my GPA is viewed?
I got a 176 on my lsat, so I'm looking at t14, so maybe everyone else will be coming from pretty good schools as well, I was just wondering how big of difference that made, considering gpa is so important in admissions.
Thanks!
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