US News 2017 Forum

[magicmagic]

Hmm curious if any other T-14 changed.

[Mrs Featherbottom]

Strange that US News just took that article down. If it's legit, maybe it was accidentally published ahead of schedule.

[magicmagic]

Strange that US News just took that article down. If it's legit, maybe it was accidentally published ahead of schedule.

Eight days ahead of schedule? How...???

Definitely weird.

[Lawcat11]

Strange that US News just took that article down. If it's legit, maybe it was accidentally published ahead of schedule.

Eight days ahead of schedule? How...???

Definitely weird.

It actually seems to have been published on 2/22 if I remember correctly.

[sjp200]

edit: Had a dummy link, awk. Nvm

[Aeon]

Strange that US News just took that article down. If it's legit, maybe it was accidentally published ahead of schedule.

Eight days ahead of schedule? How...???

Definitely weird.

If the page was real, chances are that they were readying the announcement ahead of time (as is common for such sites) and accidentally published it in draft form to their website before it was scheduled to actually go live.

[James.K.Polk]

Strange that US News just took that article down. If it's legit, maybe it was accidentally published ahead of schedule.

Eight days ahead of schedule? How...???

Definitely weird.

If the page was real, chances are that they were readying the announcement ahead of time (as is common for such sites) and accidentally published it in draft form to their website before it was scheduled to actually go live.

This seems right to me. There were also blank links for slideshows, which presumably would be added later.

[Aeon]

Also, in case anyone is curious, the page is still viewable via Google Cache for now: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... clnk&gl=us

[meowmers]

Strange that US News just took that article down. If it's legit, maybe it was accidentally published ahead of schedule.

Eight days ahead of schedule? How...???

Definitely weird.

If the page was real, chances are that they were readying the announcement ahead of time (as is common for such sites) and accidentally published it in draft form to their website before it was scheduled to actually go live.

This seems right to me. There were also blank links for slideshows, which presumably would be added later.

the missing slideshow links are marked "TK" which is publishing/journalism shorthand for "to come." normally, you wouldn't publish an article containing "TK" as it's meant as a placeholder in editing.

[strawberrieee]

Literally deciding whether I should withdraw my app to BU 10 mins before I saw this news.

not sure if you are kidding or not but these rankings shouldn't influence your decision at all.

It has little to do with my decision on where to matriculate. BU was one of my safe schools, so after getting in my more preferred choices, I considered withdrawing at BU. But given BU's higher rank now, its offer may give me more leverage in scholarship negotiation with similarly ranked schools.

[rpupkin]

It has little to do with my decision on where to matriculate. BU was one of my safe schools, so after getting in my more preferred choices, I considered withdrawing at BU. But given BU's higher rank now, its offer may give me more leverage in scholarship negotiation with similarly ranked schools.

It won't.

[krads153]

I bet Berkeley drops...considering its average LSAT is now a 166.....

[Backpacker]

Darn you I was going to win the contest with this

Haha sorry

[BillClinton Jr]

Anyone else prefer the Above the Law rankings to the USNWR rankings?

[Biglaw1990]

Anyone else prefer the Above the Law rankings to the USNWR rankings?

I do

[proteinshake]

I bet Berkeley drops...considering its average LSAT is now a 166.....

but it could be higher if they wanted it to be.

[krads153]

Anyone else prefer the Above the Law rankings to the USNWR rankings?

Where Yale is #5? Um no...

[krads153]

I bet Berkeley drops...considering its average LSAT is now a 166.....

but it could be higher if they wanted it to be.

It was 167 for years...I bet they just over-enrolled or higher LSAT takers didn't accept their offers, so they messed up their median LSAT by miscalculation. I think Berkeley is also relatively stingy because it doesn't have as much money as other law schools in the T-14, so that's another issue.

[Bluex12]

Happy for UM since it looks like I'm going there, but this probably made my scholarship negotiation with them more difficult.

[proteinshake]

I bet Berkeley drops...considering its average LSAT is now a 166.....

but it could be higher if they wanted it to be.

It was 167 for years...I bet they just over-enrolled or higher LSAT takers didn't accept their offers, so they messed up their median LSAT by miscalculation. I think Berkeley is also relatively stingy because it doesn't have as much money as other law schools, so that's another issue.

I wouldn't think so since they reject so many people with above median numbers.

[krads153]

I bet Berkeley drops...considering its average LSAT is now a 166.....

but it could be higher if they wanted it to be.

It was 167 for years...I bet they just over-enrolled or higher LSAT takers didn't accept their offers, so they messed up their median LSAT by miscalculation. I think Berkeley is also relatively stingy because it doesn't have as much money as other law schools, so that's another issue.

I wouldn't think so since they reject so many people with above median numbers.

Probably some degree of yield protect...most people wouldn't pay sticker price for law school these days and they don't have enough scholly money to give to higher numbers people as many of the T-14.

[03152016]

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[SLS_AMG]

I bet Berkeley drops...considering its average LSAT is now a 166.....

but it could be higher if they wanted it to be.

It was 167 for years...I bet they just over-enrolled or higher LSAT takers didn't accept their offers, so they messed up their median LSAT by miscalculation. I think Berkeley is also relatively stingy because it doesn't have as much money as other law schools, so that's another issue.

I wouldn't think so since they reject so many people with above median numbers.

Probably some degree of yield protect...most people wouldn't pay sticker price for law school these days and they don't have enough scholly money to give to higher numbers people as many of the T-14.

I think the latter part of this post is pretty much right on. I don't think it's a stretch at all to say that Berkeley could have higher medians if they wanted to, but they've pretty much found their niche by accepting some students that wouldn't get into other T14s and rejecting many that get into the highest-ranked schools. The Bay Area is one of the most desirable areas of the country, but it's also one of the most expensive. If Berkeley had money to hand out like Virginia, Duke, and Michigan seem to, it's perfectly reasonable to believe that it could move into the CCN tier since many, many students want to live in or near San Francisco and Berkeley has an ethos that many aspiring lawyers find attractive. But the school is so stingy (and expensive) that it makes those aspirations irrational in many cases--and that's before factoring in the already higher cost of living in the Bay.

Similarly, Stanford could likely raise its median LSAT if it wanted to, but it still finds itself in the "YHS" tier despite consistently having a median three points lower than Yale and Harvard. Much like with Berkeley, I think sacrificing its ethos to boost its median LSAT would fly in the face of its aspirations.

[runthetrap1990]

DROVES

[Robb]

For anyone reading this thread but not the other one, be sure to check out Mike Spivey's blog post with the full top 54: http://blog.spiveyconsulting.com/