Long Story Short - Need Some Advice. Forum

[sandwhich]

I think the correct advice has been exhausted above.

That being said, you quickly dismissed spleen's first piece advice about your salutation, but I think you may want to give it a bit more thought. I think on here if you want to sign "god bless" that's fine, it's just a forum - say whatever you want. But please think twice about carrying that over into your professional career. There's a difference between standing up for your beliefs and being indifferent to how you make other people feel. For instance, I was at an airport luggage carousel and I grabbed an older lady's luggage off of the track for her, to which she replied "god bless you, son." I wasn't offended at all, but it definitely made me feel uncomfortable. Others may disagree, it's just a thought.

Oh, and something tells me you might slap it on to the end of your PS also, I wouldn't do that either.

[IWantToBeAFarmer]

OP: What is your GPA ?

Schools set their own GPAs for distinctions such as "magna cum laude". A 3.50 is the base level for magna at many schools--but it varies by school.

Improved GPA 3rd & 4th year. Above Temple's 75th percentile.

[TheSpanishMain]

. For instance, I was at an airport luggage carousel and I grabbed an older lady's luggage off of the track for her, to which she replied "god bless you, son." I wasn't offended at all, but it definitely made me feel uncomfortable. Others may disagree, it's just a thought.

Is this a joke or are you just the most delicate atheist ever?

[sandwhich]

. For instance, I was at an airport luggage carousel and I grabbed an older lady's luggage off of the track for her, to which she replied "god bless you, son." I wasn't offended at all, but it definitely made me feel uncomfortable. Others may disagree, it's just a thought.

Holy shit are you delicate

No it's just what spurred the thought asshat. I guess you just had to hear the way she said it lol. I should've said awkward instead of uncomfortable

[A. Nony Mouse]

But seriously though, would you use "god bless" in professional situations? (I'm assuming the OP wouldn't, but...)

For the record, Temple's 75th percentile GPA is 3.66.

[IWantToBeAFarmer]

I think the correct advice has been exhausted above.

That being said, you quickly dismissed spleen's first piece advice about your salutation, but I think you may want to give it a bit more thought. I think on here if you want to sign "god bless" that's fine, it's just a forum - say whatever you want. But please think twice about carrying that over into your professional career. There's a difference between standing up for your beliefs and being indifferent to how you make other people feel. For instance, I was at an airport luggage carousel and I grabbed an older lady's luggage off of the track for her, to which she replied "god bless you, son." I wasn't offended at all, but it definitely made me feel uncomfortable. Others may disagree, it's just a thought.

Oh, and something tells me you might slap it on to the end of your PS also, I wouldn't do that either.

Well, we disagree. But I get the vibe of what you're saying. When it is insincere or seemingly not genuine, I completely get where you are coming from. I definitely wouldn't put it on a personal statement either. IRL I have said it very rarely, and only to a handful of people. As for posting it on a forum, my sentiment is, for the great majority, I'm praying it works out for you.

As for the bolded text, perhaps she was being legit, and you might have been overreacting. Or, maybe you were correct in your gut feel, and you saw through her pretense.

[TheSpanishMain]

But seriously though, would you use "god bless" in professional situations? (I'm assuming the OP wouldn't, but...)

In closing a letter? No.

[sandwhich]

Haha I used a bad example. I guess my point was more that it was just unexpected to get a blessing for doing a normal act. And it was sincere. She said it like three times and like bowed her head while she said it as if I was a doctor who just saved her kid's life. Just caught me off guard is all, but I didn't verbally berate her for it lol

[TheSpanishMain]

Haha I used a bad example. I guess my point was more that it was just unexpected to get a blessing for doing a normal act. And it was sincere. She said it like three times and like bowed her head while she said it as if I was a doctor who just saved her kid's life. Just caught me off guard is all, but I didn't verbally berate her for it lol

Yeah, that's a little awkward, I agree. I thought you were just one of those "help, help I'm being micro-aggressed!" types.

[IWantToBeAFarmer]

You probably need a 160 or above to get a hefty scholarship to Villanova & a 163 or higher for Temple.

P.S. Have you checked out the tennis courts at Pepperdine ?

Hey, thank you. And no I haven't. You from south-eastern PA? I usually play at a local club... mostly har-tru courts, but they've got a couple of hard courts as well.

[Aquila]

You probably need a 160 or above to get a hefty scholarship to Villanova & a 163 or higher for Temple.

P.S. Have you checked out the tennis courts at Pepperdine ?

Hey, thank you. And no I haven't. You from south-eastern PA? I usually play at a local club... mostly har-tru courts, but they've got a couple of hard courts as well.

Idle hour in springfield?

[IWantToBeAFarmer]

You probably need a 160 or above to get a hefty scholarship to Villanova & a 163 or higher for Temple.

P.S. Have you checked out the tennis courts at Pepperdine ?

Hey, thank you. And no I haven't. You from south-eastern PA? I usually play at a local club... mostly har-tru courts, but they've got a couple of hard courts as well.

Idle hour in springfield?

sent you PM.

[basedvulpes]

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[IWantToBeAFarmer]

Protip: never pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for good great customer service

W/out going into details, it wasn't a standard inquiry. A friendly tone or a pleasant customer service experience, in and of itself, isn't worth that much. The woman I interacted with went the extra mile in addressing my concerns by letting me know that she would look into it, but that it would take some time. The following day she replied in detail, as to my best options.

There, I fixed it.

But seriously, this shouldn't be a rationale to favor a school, even in a tiny way. You won't interact with adcomms at all once you're enrolled, and their entire job at a school like this is to convince you that their schools are better than they really are so they can run away with your federally backed dollars. I know this is just a small part of you overall reasoning, but its important to approach this with the right mindset.

I get it, I get it.... I would have to go into detail to explain why the response to the inquiry went above and beyond the typical sales pitch routine. I know what you mean though.

[spleenworship]

Look bro (I'm assuming you are a bro, if not, then ignore the appellation), you need to really understand what we are saying here: the adcoms could provide you with sexual favors, champagne, and a back rub while stroking your ego and admitting you.... and it still would never, never ever ever never ever be enough. Ever.

Their job is to go the extra mile to ensure their class is filled... and that they get more and more applications so they can turn a bunch of people down to up their selectivity scores with USNWR.

They can be nice people, they can be good people. A lot of them probably are. Fact is, though, it doesn't matter.

At the end of their day they are taking home high 5, low 6 figure salaries to their nice houses and their spouses and retirement accounts. They're gonna eat a nice dinner, and watch their kids go to soccer or something and never once, or maybe only now and then - but not with any real feelings, will they think about the fact that 50 of the hundred or so suckers they admitted to their s***-tier second rate law school are, in three short years, going to be hugely, devastatingly in debt and jobless, worse off than they were before they applied, on the verge of suicide, popping antidepressants and whiskey like truckers snort meth and drink coffee.

You HAVE TO look out for YOU. For you. You are the one who has to find a job and pay off the debt you accrue from law school. So which school you go to is vitally important and the only factors you should consider when choosing a law school are: what opportunities will I get from going here (go on LST and look at the employment rates, really look because when it says 20% of that school's last graduating class ended up as f***ing baristas, there is no guarantee that won't be you! Not because you aren't smart or wonderful, but simply because law school is graded on a curve and everyone is smart and wonderful, and because there are too many damned lawyers graduated every year and there aren't enough jobs to go around), what amount of money will they give me, what kind of prestige will I accrue, is the environment one I would enjoy? Notice which I put last? The environment is your last concern, and as pointed out above, the adcoms won't be a part of that. I had a conversation with the adcom who lied to me about my scholarship retention requirements one time, 1L year, and never again after that. I think they retired, state retirement (strong regional state school), best three years all above $100K, so they're taking home 70K a year to do literally nothing. I hear they work part time of counsel, doing mostly pro bono stuff. So maybe a guilty conscience or whatever. Point is, the professors, the amenities - that's what makes the law school. I would say fellow students, but we are all universally bad people, or we all are during law school at least.

[IWantToBeAFarmer]

Look bro (I'm assuming you are a bro, if not, then ignore the appellation), you need to really understand what we are saying here: the adcoms could provide you with sexual favors, champagne, and a back rub while stroking your ego and admitting you.... and it still would never, never ever ever never ever be enough. Ever.

Their job is to go the extra mile to ensure their class is filled... and that they get more and more applications so they can turn a bunch of people down to up their selectivity scores with USNWR.

They can be nice people, they can be good people. A lot of them probably are. Fact is, though, it doesn't matter.

At the end of their day they are taking home high 5, low 6 figure salaries to their nice houses and their spouses and retirement accounts. They're gonna eat a nice dinner, and watch their kids go to soccer or something and never once, or maybe only now and then - but not with any real feelings, will they think about the fact that 50 of the hundred or so suckers they admitted to their s***-tier second rate law school are, in three short years, going to be hugely, devastatingly in debt and jobless, worse off than they were before they applied, on the verge of suicide, popping antidepressants and whiskey like truckers snort meth and drink coffee.

You HAVE TO look out for YOU. For you. You are the one who has to find a job and pay off the debt you accrue from law school. So which school you go to is vitally important and the only factors you should consider when choosing a law school are: what opportunities will I get from going here (go on LST and look at the employment rates, really look because when it says 20% of that school's last graduating class ended up as f***ing baristas, there is no guarantee that won't be you! Not because you aren't smart or wonderful, but simply because law school is graded on a curve and everyone is smart and wonderful, and because there are too many damned lawyers graduated every year and there aren't enough jobs to go around), what amount of money will they give me, what kind of prestige will I accrue, is the environment one I would enjoy? Notice which I put last? The environment is your last concern, and as pointed out above, the adcoms won't be a part of that. I had a conversation with the adcom who lied to me about my scholarship retention requirements one time, 1L year, and never again after that. I think they retired, state retirement (strong regional state school), best three years all above $100K, so they're taking home 70K a year to do literally nothing. I hear they work part time of counsel, doing mostly pro bono stuff. So maybe a guilty conscience or whatever. Point is, the professors, the amenities - that's what makes the law school. I would say fellow students, but we are all universally bad people, or we all are during law school at least.

[IWantToBeAFarmer]

Quick question. I took 3 graduate level courses in an accounting program. Did fine. Do I need to include these in my LSAC file?

Thanks,
IWantToBeAFarmer

[IWantToBeAFarmer]

Anyone?

[Tiago Splitter]

yeah you gotta include em.

[Companion Cube]

yeah you gotta include em.

And don't forget that if you took any other classes that weren't at your undergrad institution, even if they didn't count toward your degree at all, they must be disclosed. You do NOT want this coming up when they do your background check for the bar

[IWantToBeAFarmer]

yeah you gotta include em.

Okay. Thanks!

[starry eyed]

Haven't read the responses ITT, but as far as LOR's go when you don't have a relationship with any profs, i just emailed two profs who i thought were genuinely good ppl (that i don't think would try to screw over LS applicants) that i got A's in, flattered them, and asked very nicely for a LOR. Idk what they wrote, but i performed what my numbers predicted.

[gnomgnomuch]

Check out mylsn.info for typical numbers.

Thx

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 5&t=251038

Much more interactive thread above. My GPA wasn't as high as this guys, but I graduated Magna Cum Laude so it sounds like it's going to come down to LSAT performance on my 2nd and perhaps, 3rd attempts.

If you graduated Magna that means your GPA should be around 3.7 at the least (min cutoff at my school for Magna was a 3.75, but it varies). So, hit the books, and hard. Work your ass off, invest in a class, in every preptest in anything possible to go get a 170 LSAT. Then, go to a school like Upenn, instead of Drexel.

Seriously, just look at LST and you'll see that going to Drexel on anything on a full scholarship (with no stipulations) is just a bad decision.

[IWantToBeAFarmer]

yeah you gotta include em.

And don't forget that if you took any other classes that weren't at your undergrad institution, even if they didn't count toward your degree at all, they must be disclosed. You do NOT want this coming up when they do your background check for the bar

Thanks for your input! I contacted LSAC.org today by email and phone. I was having difficulty adding the university where I did my graduate accounting work. It was explained to me by LSAC that I wouldn't be able to manually add any further universities through their site and that I'd have to explain my situation through email. Fortunately we worked it out and my file will be updated in short order.

[IWantToBeAFarmer]

Haven't read the responses ITT, but as far as LOR's go when you don't have a relationship with any profs, i just emailed two profs who i thought were genuinely good ppl (that i don't think would try to screw over LS applicants) that i got A's in, flattered them, and asked very nicely for a LOR. Idk what they wrote, but i performed what my numbers predicted.

Appreciate your advice. I've been out of school for a few years so this might be difficult for me. I would have no problem getting a LOR from reliable sources that would basically say, "Yeah, he's alright", but having been away from the academic environment for a bit... well, I'll figure something out.