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jenesaislaw · Post by **jenesaislaw** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 12:46 am

rahulg91 wrote:
jenesaislaw wrote: Yeah, just 10 months out. There should have been more juicy details, but the ABA Section of Legal Ed Council cowered.
Sorry, I'm ill-informed on this topic. Are they changing the reporting guidelines so that schools have to report where people are working 10 months out instead of 9 months out? Was this change done to increase the % employed statistic?

Yes exactly, regarding both the change and the impetus.

Moneytrees · Post by **Moneytrees** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 2:36 pm

jenesaislaw wrote:
rahulg91 wrote:
jenesaislaw wrote: Yeah, just 10 months out. There should have been more juicy details, but the ABA Section of Legal Ed Council cowered.
Sorry, I'm ill-informed on this topic. Are they changing the reporting guidelines so that schools have to report where people are working 10 months out instead of 9 months out? Was this change done to increase the % employed statistic?
Yes exactly, regarding both the change and the impetus.

Do you think 1 extra month will change literally anything? Seems dubious to me.

WeeBey · Post by **WeeBey** » Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:06 pm

78 fucking percent.

Firms must be dipping well below median right now.

And they OCIed in 2012. Imagine us 0Ls who'll be OCIing in 2016 (God forbit another downturn).

Penn NLJ250 numbers also had a big jump from 2013 to 2014 (53 to 64 so it makes sense. Cornell's 2014 numbers may shock us too. Their NLJ numbers jumped from 45% to 53% from 2013 to 2014. Mind you their 100+ and fed clerkship was 68% when their NLJ was 45%.

Mack.Hambleton · Post by **Mack.Hambleton** » Fri Apr 03, 2015 2:41 am

Thank you based penn

NoBladesNoBows · Post by **NoBladesNoBows** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:23 pm

Mack.Hambleton · Post by **Mack.Hambleton** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:25 pm

Someone got waitlisted

NoBladesNoBows · Post by **NoBladesNoBows** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:27 pm

Mack.Hambleton · Post by **Mack.Hambleton** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:29 pm

o my bad I thought u were just bein salty

Hard to tell over internet

NoBladesNoBows · Post by **NoBladesNoBows** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:34 pm

Mack.Hambleton · Post by **Mack.Hambleton** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:36 pm

w00kash · Post by **w00kash** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:12 pm

Just spoke to an admissions assistant dean who told me the reports will be released to the public tomorrow.

rion91 · Post by **rion91** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:13 pm

w00kash wrote:Just spoke to an admissions assistant dean who told me the reports will be released to the public tomorrow.

what school?

w00kash · Post by **w00kash** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:18 pm

A school ranked between 40-50, would rather pm you if you really want. I'd rather not put them on blast just in case they're wrong.

PKP319 · Post by **PKP319** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:04 pm

Duke Law's C/O 2014 info is on their website.

90% FT LT JD required (5% School Funded)

56.7% 101+ Firms

13.5% Federal Clerkships

70.2% BL+FC

Link: https://law.duke.edu/career/employmentdata/

Feel free to correct my math if I'm wrong, I used an iPhone calculator in class to figure percentages. But, if everything is correct, looks like a significant jump for Duke.

Mack.Hambleton · Post by **Mack.Hambleton** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:06 pm

impressive

Mack.Hambleton · Post by **Mack.Hambleton** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:07 pm

they were 60% last year btw

rion91 · Post by **rion91** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:27 pm

UC Irvine is out:

c/o 2014 had 93 graduating students.

86% employed (80/93).
79 of those 80 are employed full time.
69 got bar passage required jobs (74% up from 64.3% last year), and the remaining 10 got JD Advantaged jobs.
10 Federal clerkships out of 93 (10.8%, down from 17.9% last year)
BigLaw up to 17.2% this year, versus 15.5% last year.

http://www.law.uci.edu/careers/students ... -2014.html

pamphleteer · Post by **pamphleteer** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:39 pm

So an overall drop for Irvine from 33.4% BL+FC for c/o 2013 to 28% for c/o 2014. Honestly I'm kind of surprised they still managed to maintain a 10+% federal clerkship placement rate even if that is a significant fall from the previous year. When did UCI's class size increase to a more normal number? c/o 2015?

Moneytrees · Post by **Moneytrees** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:45 pm

pamphleteer wrote:So an overall drop for Irvine from 33.4% BL+FC for c/o 2013 to 28% for c/o 2014. Honestly I'm kind of surprised they still managed to maintain a 10+% federal clerkship placement rate even if that is a significant fall from the previous year. When did UCI's class size increase to a more normal number? c/o 2015?

It's still not really at a normal size. 89 people is tiny compared to other tier 1 schools.

Tiago Splitter · Post by **Tiago Splitter** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:48 pm

UCI went to 119 1L's in 2012 and then 126 in 2013, before going back to 89 last fall in anticipation of the new rankings. So the numbers a year from now will give us a better idea of just how bad it is.

Moneytrees · Post by **Moneytrees** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:52 pm

It doesn't look like UC Irvine will be able to significantly increase its class size without seeing a dip in its Biglaw and clerkship rates. Eventually they will probably have to settle for UC Davis employment type numbers, I'm guessing.

rion91 · Post by **rion91** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:53 pm

pamphleteer wrote:So an overall drop for Irvine from 33.4% BL+FC for c/o 2013 to 28% for c/o 2014. Honestly I'm kind of surprised they still managed to maintain a 10+% federal clerkship placement rate even if that is a significant fall from the previous year. When did UCI's class size increase to a more normal number? c/o 2015?

FC drop is quite surprising, BigLaw increase is nice to see though. 86% total w/o school funded tho, not bad IMO. Will be hard to maintain for sure.

edit: nvm 13 (14%) school funded.

rpupkin · Post by **rpupkin** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:58 pm

rion91 wrote:
pamphleteer wrote:So an overall drop for Irvine from 33.4% BL+FC for c/o 2013 to 28% for c/o 2014. Honestly I'm kind of surprised they still managed to maintain a 10+% federal clerkship placement rate even if that is a significant fall from the previous year. When did UCI's class size increase to a more normal number? c/o 2015?
FC drop is quite surprising

Why is it surprising? Chemerinsky can only call in so many favors before UCI's clerkship placement rate dribbles down to the <5% level that we'll see long-term.

Clemenceau · Post by **Clemenceau** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:58 pm

rion91 wrote:
pamphleteer wrote:So an overall drop for Irvine from 33.4% BL+FC for c/o 2013 to 28% for c/o 2014. Honestly I'm kind of surprised they still managed to maintain a 10+% federal clerkship placement rate even if that is a significant fall from the previous year. When did UCI's class size increase to a more normal number? c/o 2015?
FC drop is quite surprising, BigLaw increase is nice to see though. 86% total w/o school funded tho, not bad IMO. Will be hard to maintain for sure.

They had 69 full time par bassage required jobs MINUS 10 of them that are school funded = 59/93

rion91 · Post by **rion91** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 6:03 pm

Clemenceau wrote:
rion91 wrote:
pamphleteer wrote:So an overall drop for Irvine from 33.4% BL+FC for c/o 2013 to 28% for c/o 2014. Honestly I'm kind of surprised they still managed to maintain a 10+% federal clerkship placement rate even if that is a significant fall from the previous year. When did UCI's class size increase to a more normal number? c/o 2015?
FC drop is quite surprising, BigLaw increase is nice to see though. 86% total w/o school funded tho, not bad IMO. Will be hard to maintain for sure.
They had 69 full time par bassage required jobs MINUS 10 of them that are school funded = 59/93

did not see employed by school portion. you're right.

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