Suspended Forum

[rad lulz]

Ok, you all are being a little unfair. We were just having some fun and then unfortunately some people walked by that didn't want to hear it. It's really more complicated than you guys' are making it out to be, but whatever.

Anyway, will I have to report what happened? Or can I just say I was "rowdy with some friends on night"?

Y'all dumbasses forgot the cardinal rule of racial slurs which is to not let anyone affected by the slurs hear you say em

You deserve what's coming to you

I think thats the idea. Big difference between using it as part of a private joke between friends. And quite another to be shouting it in a place where people who may genuinely be offended can hear it. The former isn't necessarily problematic, whereas the latter is just wrong, and it isn't a joke at that point.

I was joking

Probs should not use racial slurs

[banjo]

I think people are right that this could be serious. A racially insensitive comment can poison a class discussion pretty fast. Also, people who get drunk and say/do stupid shit reflect poorly on the school. I heard of some girl who got drunk and jumped into the Hudson river at an SA event. No offered.

1) Describe in plain and simple English what happened that night.

2) Accept responsibility and express remorse. Describe the actions you took to make amends (an apology letter, for example).

3) Make it clear that it will never happen again. Be willing to address any additional questions the committee may have about the incident.

[patogordo]

just tell them you were always taught "don't do anything riley cooper wouldn't do"

[transferror]

You need to prove that you aren't actually a racist, but a nice guy who occasionally yells racist things. Just tell them your best friend is black. Works every time.

[rpupkin]

furthermore, it's quite unfortunate that the school administration decided to address this incident through punitive measures rather than constructive, on-campus discourse around hate speech and racial sensitivity.

This is an excellent point. Because, as we all know, it is impossible for a school to punish those who violate school policy while, at the same time, promoting constructive discourse about racial sensitivity. Your logical reasoning skills are 180.

[patogordo]

it might be helpful to know the context/content of the racial slurs..

furthermore, it's quite unfortunate that the school administration decided to address this incident through punitive measures rather than constructive, on-campus discourse around hate speech and racial sensitivity.

This is an excellent point. Because, as we all know, it is impossible for a school to punish those who violate school policy while, at the same time, promoting constructive discourse about racial sensitivity. Your logical reasoning skills are 180.

sick issue spotting, bro.

[kaiser]

Ok, you all are being a little unfair. We were just having some fun and then unfortunately some people walked by that didn't want to hear it. It's really more complicated than you guys' are making it out to be, but whatever.

Anyway, will I have to report what happened? Or can I just say I was "rowdy with some friends on night"?

Y'all dumbasses forgot the cardinal rule of racial slurs which is to not let anyone affected by the slurs hear you say em

You deserve what's coming to you

I think thats the idea. Big difference between using it as part of a private joke between friends. And quite another to be shouting it in a place where people who may genuinely be offended can hear it. The former isn't necessarily problematic, whereas the latter is just wrong, and it isn't a joke at that point.

I was joking

Probs should not use racial slurs

Well yeah, as a general rule, thats probably a good idea. But I don't have a problem if in private with friends, someone tells a race-based joke. Its all about intent and audience. And the bottom line is that you never use that kind of joke in front of an audience that doesn't understand your intent. But sure, probably a safe rule of thumb to just avoid the topic all together if possible

[NYSprague]

it might be helpful to know the context/content of the racial slurs..

furthermore, it's quite unfortunate that the school administration decided to address this incident through punitive measures rather than constructive, on-campus discourse around hate speech and racial sensitivity.

No. This won't help him. Taking responsibility is the only thing that he can do.

[patogordo]

Probs should not use racial slurs

Well yeah, as a general rule, thats probably a good idea. But I don't have a problem if in private with friends, someone tells a race-based joke. Its all about intent and audience. And the bottom line is that you never use that kind of joke in front of an audience that doesn't understand your intent. But sure, probably a safe rule of thumb to just avoid the topic all together if possible

what did the kaiser say to the racist?








"is this mirror cracked?"

[WaltGrace83]

This thread makes me "lol." I'm not trying to offend you or anything, but adcoms may (perhaps rightfully so) see you as a little kid who is a racist and gets involved in drunken debauchery. You seem to think that "everyone doing it" and "seeing much worse" somehow alleviates the severity of what you did.

Law school aside, you may want to go out and get some work experience for a few years before going to law school. It may do you some good if this is the kind of attitude you have. For awhile, I worked in a department on campus that dealt with this sort of stuff. You actually got off easy believe it or not. If this happened on my campus, you would have been kicked out in a heartbeat.

[EvMont]

[Big Dog]

IMO, you should not apply to LS this cycle. Adcoms will NOT like this one bit. Any top LS will likely pass on your app. And if you then reapply the following year, you have to check the box, 'yes, I applied and was rejected...' = red flag.

Work for a year or two. Put the situation behind you. Mature.

btw: a "four week suspension" is a big deal.

[withoutapaddle]

deny deny deny

[raininthedesert]

Absolutely! You can kiss your law school ambitions goodbye...

No one wants a racist at their institution.

Focus on finding full-time employment and apply again in 3-5 years (just before current LSAT score is not longer valid) after completing sensitivity training.

Seriously -- NO law school will accept you. Don't waste your time.

[frankievallie666]

I'll try to vaguely apply context if it will help you all understand my case. We were basically all drunk at a fraternity house and were playing a version of "the penis game".(who hasn't played this game..?) Instead of using the word penis, though, we were using racially sensitive terms. Some folks walked by and a confrontation ensued. They raised hell the following week of school.

[rpupkin]

I'll try to vaguely apply context if it will help you all understand my case. We were basically all drunk at a fraternity house and were playing a version of "the penis game".(who hasn't played this game..?) Instead of using the word penis, though, we were using racially sensitive terms.

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[withoutapaddle]

I mean you could play it as your whole fraternity was punished for a few bad apples and just say you weren't saying the slurs- but your fraternity was punished as a whole

That's how I would do it

[t-14orbust]

and just like that you confirmed everyone's opinion of your actions

[kaiser]

I'll try to vaguely apply context if it will help you all understand my case. We were basically all drunk at a fraternity house and were playing a version of "the penis game".(who hasn't played this game..?) Instead of using the word penis, though, we were using racially sensitive terms. Some folks walked by and a confrontation ensued. They raised hell the following week of school.

So was the suspension for the slurs you yelled, or the confrontation that ensued? Or combination of both?

[exitoptions]

I mean you could play it as your whole fraternity was punished for a few bad apples and just say you weren't saying the slurs- but your fraternity was punished as a whole

That's how I would do it

Lead with "The bitches set me up." That always works out well.

[withoutapaddle]

OP did your whole fraternity get punished or just you?

[Winter is Coming]

I'll try to vaguely apply context if it will help you all understand my case. We were basically all drunk at a fraternity house and were playing a version of "the penis game".(who hasn't played this game..?) Instead of using the word penis, though, we were using racially sensitive terms. Some folks walked by and a confrontation ensued. They raised hell the following week of school.

O never mind you're good then. Just make sure you really flesh out the analogy in your addendum and schools will totally understand.

Also, make sure to mention if you won, that will go over well. (No school wants someone who is willing to loudly yell something offensive, but doesn't have the balls to yell it the loudest. Those are the types of guys who close deals and win cases.)

[TheSpanishMain]

and just like that you confirmed everyone's opinion of your actions

Actually, I no longer think OP is necessarily a racist. I just think he's a retard.

Neither perception is going to help an application, of course.

[t-14orbust]

and just like that you confirmed everyone's opinion of your actions

Actually, I no longer think OP is necessarily a racist. I just think he's a retard.

Neither perception is going to help an application, of course.

I originally thought the latter, but I tend to give the BOTD

[lowdmouse]

Don't deny it and pile on to the "racist" label you've given yourself. You're already in a hole.
Saying "it wasn't really me, wrong place wrong time" = poor judgement/immature liar.
Saying "Oh I was just drunk, plus I've seen a lot worse" = stay away from my school before you're a news story.

These may seem like legitimate excuses to you and it may look like I'm going to extremes. But adcoms have a thousand applicants with your numbers or better who aren't a risk, even a slight risk.

Also, if you continue this behavior and go on rationalizing your drunk actions, eventually you WILL do something that will block you from the bar. You came here for advice. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean we're picking on you.