Sub 2.5 GPA. What LSAT score to make LS worthwhile? Forum

[Sam_Spade]

Unless your UG was really difficult ie. physics or chemistry how could YALE even consider you with a sub 3.0 GPA? A buddy of mine had a 3.1 GPA from CalTech in Chemistry and scored a 174 on the LSAT and got into Harvard. That said, he had all A's -a 4.0 in everything else except for chemistry and physics.

The whole GPA Law School ADCOM thing is really really flawed as from what I'm gathering they could care less what your major is and where you got your degree from. Which makes no sense a 3.1 from CalTech in Chemistry is a hell of a lot harder to get than a 4.0 in English from a big state school. In fact there's NO comparision.

The passage of time can go a long way toward softening the impact of a poor GPA, especially if you have great work experience or more recent education that can show that you're a better student than you were back in undergrad. I got into UT this cycle with a 2.6/170. I think I might have had a shot at UVA or Northwestern, but that would have mostly been from being in the military for 20 years since undergrad.

When you're using the various admissions predictors, keep in mind that there are not a lot of data points for people with sub-2.7 GPAs, so I'd take the predictions with a grain of salt.

This, and considering this cycle I think that OP isn't in a bad situation. I have a sub-3.0 and 168 and am in at UT and Held at NU, and still waiting on (lol) Yale. I don't think OP is in a bad position if he has 165+, but 170+ is obviously TCR.

[patogordo]

maybe because you're applying to law school not Dow Chemical

[Clearly]

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[Sam_Spade]

I don't care what that fucking graphic says, if the dude's got a 2.5 he's not getting into Duke. He could pay 10X sticker and they still wouldn't open the gate.

http://myLSN.info/cxsl5l_1-14.jpg

[Sam_Spade]

lol

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[Sam_Spade]

tis true.

maybe because you're applying to law school not Dow Chemical

[Sam_Spade]

where are you in at?

maybe because you're applying to law school not Dow Chemical

[patogordo]

i'm not replying to anything until you learn to quote properly

[A. Nony Mouse]

The whole GPA Law School ADCOM thing is really really flawed as from what I'm gathering they could care less what your major is and where you got your degree from. Which makes no sense a 3.1 from CalTech in Chemistry is a hell of a lot harder to get than a 4.0 in English from a big state school. In fact there's NO comparision.

Oh, look, you're back to bang this gong AGAIN. Nope, adcomms don't care. There's no point brooding about it.

[workaholic82]

I may be a good analog. Sub 2.5, greater than 175 lsat. 80% scholly from a strong regional, held but hopeful at nu. Kill the lsat and there is hope.

[ScottRiqui]

http://myLSN.info/cxsl5l_1-14.jpg

I don't care what that fucking graphic says, if the dude's got a 2.5 he's not getting into Duke. He could pay 10X sticker and they still wouldn't open the gate.

Well, if the LSN profile in that graph is to be believed, a non-URM got into Duke off the waitlist last cycle with a 2.8/175. And really, a 2.5 doesn't screw a school's numbers any worse than a 2.8. Don't underestimate the hard-on schools have for 99th+ percentile LSAT scores.

[workaholic82]

I would say if you have a great app and show great effort in romancing a particular school convincingly, excluding t-6, you have a shot with a great lsat... which is a lot of ifs.

[dstars823]

Don't assume you will graduate top X% and be one of the lucky few who goes from a regional to NYC because lots of people have that plan.

+1. I just wanted to add:

OP wants scholarship over prestige. With a 2.5 GPA, T-14 will most likely be out.

Even if OP attends T-14, I'd be very worried in OP situation. With a 2.5 UG GPA, I would highly doubt that OP can pull above GPA 3.5 (where his classmates came from UG GPA >3.7) to get NYC BigLaw.

Sorry for being harsh, given your situation, law school is not worth it, regardless of what LSAT score u get.

I just wanted to point out that undergrad GPA is a pretty poor determinant of Law School GPA. After a semester at a T14 some of the people who had the highest GPAs had some of the lowest grades and some of the heaviest splitters have the highest grades. I think there are a lot of factors that play into your grades than just being able to say that your undergrad GPA is a good predictor of law school success.

For some people they just dont figure it out in undergrad and then kind of get it together afterwards. I dont really go down the argument about whether certain degrees mean more than others, in terms of admissions a 2.5 is a 2.5.

OP break 170+ and youll get a large chunk of money from decent regionals like UGa, Alabama, Wake (i am only speaking for the schools that i know based on my own experience) you may have to ride a wait list for a t14 and get in late, but you should have a decent shot at Texas and Wash U. Just hope Wash U finds their golden pot and hands you a full ride like they did to everyone else last year.