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Post by alwayssunnyinfl » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:22 am

jeffgarlin wrote:I don't add my total commute time to working hours and claim that's how much I worked.
This publication does.

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Post by haus » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:39 am

alwayssunnyinfl wrote:
jeffgarlin wrote:I don't add my total commute time to working hours and claim that's how much I worked.
This publication does.
It adds it to the time worked, but not to billiable time.

I suspect that this is to serve as an aide to many who will possible entering I to their first real job. For some who only have had the experience of living on/near campus and stroll into class in a few minutes, may find their new logistics to be a bit of a pain. I saw this as my current job has about 3 hours of round trip commuting time per day. This time is not billed to my employer, but it is something I do for work, and is a big part of my planning.

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Re: A Breakdown Of The Billable Hour from Yale

Post by alwayssunnyinfl » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:42 am

haus wrote:
alwayssunnyinfl wrote:
jeffgarlin wrote:I don't add my total commute time to working hours and claim that's how much I worked.
This publication does.
It adds it to the time worked, but not to billiable time.

I suspect that this is to serve as an aide to many who will possible entering I to their first real job. For some who only have had the experience of living on/near campus and stroll into class in a few minutes, may find their new logistics to be a bit of a pain. I saw this as my current job has about 3 hours of round trip commuting time per day. This time is not billed to my employer, but it is something I do for work, and is a big part of my planning.
I'm just saying that if one of my friends were bitching to me about how she worked a 60 hour work week, and then I find out that 5 hours of that time was lunch breaks, 5 hours was commute time, 2.5 hours of that time was for miscellaneous breaks, etc. I would think she was being a bit dramatic.

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Re: A Breakdown Of The Billable Hour from Yale

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alwayssunnyinfl wrote:
haus wrote:
alwayssunnyinfl wrote:
jeffgarlin wrote:I don't add my total commute time to working hours and claim that's how much I worked.
This publication does.
It adds it to the time worked, but not to billiable time.

I suspect that this is to serve as an aide to many who will possible entering I to their first real job. For some who only have had the experience of living on/near campus and stroll into class in a few minutes, may find their new logistics to be a bit of a pain. I saw this as my current job has about 3 hours of round trip commuting time per day. This time is not billed to my employer, but it is something I do for work, and is a big part of my planning.
I'm just saying that if one of my friends were bitching to me about how she worked a 60 hour work week, and then I find out that 5 hours of that time was lunch breaks, 5 hours was commute time, 2.5 hours of that time was for miscellaneous breaks, etc. I would think she was being a bit dramatic.
but they aren't including the commute in the actual hours. look at the numbers again.
2420 (time at work) -1832 (billed) = 588/47=12.5/5=2.5 which is the time they already subtract for lunch, breaks, email, meetings, etc.
the commute was just included to give people an idea of what the day might look like

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Re: A Breakdown Of The Billable Hour from Yale

Post by ManOfTheMinute » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:52 am

Do people track their billables this accurately? I mean... working lunches kind of seem to solve this problem. I know at my current job people take 15 minute breaks but just bill that to the client... hmmmm, leave it to yale to shit on the rest of us

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Post by Crowing » Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:23 am

ManOfTheMinute wrote:Do people track their billables this accurately? I mean... working lunches kind of seem to solve this problem. I know at my current job people take 15 minute breaks but just bill that to the client... hmmmm, leave it to yale to shit on the rest of us
What if you eat and work at the same time? Can you bill it then?

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Crowing wrote:
ManOfTheMinute wrote:Do people track their billables this accurately? I mean... working lunches kind of seem to solve this problem. I know at my current job people take 15 minute breaks but just bill that to the client... hmmmm, leave it to yale to shit on the rest of us
What if you eat and work at the same time? Can you bill it then?
Sure, as long as you are thinking about work, you can shit and bill too.

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Post by Remmy » Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:25 pm

Always funny hearing new associates ask if "X" "Y" & "Z" is billable.

Almost never hear those questions after the first day. Those that do ask it after day 1 usually aren't at firms for too long.

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Post by 09042014 » Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:26 pm

Remmy wrote:Always funny hearing new associates ask if "X" "Y" & "Z" is billable.

Almost never hear those questions after the first day. Those that do ask it after day 1 usually aren't at firms for too long.
Elaborate, I don't follow what oyu mean.

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Re: A Breakdown Of The Billable Hour from Yale

Post by Remmy » Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:28 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
Remmy wrote:Always funny hearing new associates ask if "X" "Y" & "Z" is billable.

Almost never hear those questions after the first day. Those that do ask it after day 1 usually aren't at firms for too long.
Elaborate, I don't follow what oyu mean.
Everything is billable. People that are honest and self-cut time their time, don't pad their bills, or feel like some tasks may not be billable usually don't meet hours and are asked to leave.

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Re: A Breakdown Of The Billable Hour from Yale

Post by 09042014 » Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:38 pm

Remmy wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
Remmy wrote:Always funny hearing new associates ask if "X" "Y" & "Z" is billable.

Almost never hear those questions after the first day. Those that do ask it after day 1 usually aren't at firms for too long.
Elaborate, I don't follow what oyu mean.
Everything is billable. People that are honest and self-cut time their time, don't pad their bills, or feel like some tasks may not be billable usually don't meet hours and are asked to leave.
Ok that's what I thought. I thought the first rule of padding is that you don't talk about padding.

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Post by Remmy » Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:43 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
Remmy wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
Remmy wrote:Always funny hearing new associates ask if "X" "Y" & "Z" is billable.

Almost never hear those questions after the first day. Those that do ask it after day 1 usually aren't at firms for too long.
Elaborate, I don't follow what oyu mean.
Everything is billable. People that are honest and self-cut time their time, don't pad their bills, or feel like some tasks may not be billable usually don't meet hours and are asked to leave.
Ok that's what I thought. I thought the first rule of padding is that you don't talk about padding.
Check out some of the bills that have been made public in the Apple v. Samsung case. Quinn spends like 200 hours on a 10 page motion...

Can't think of any other industry that has this business model.

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Re: A Breakdown Of The Billable Hour from Yale

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Car mechanics.

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Desert Fox wrote:Car mechanics.
And people trust the two professions about equally.

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Post by 09042014 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:15 pm

Doctors are even worse. They don't even disclose what things will cost you.

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Post by alwayssunnyinfl » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:16 pm

Desert Fox wrote:Doctors are even worse. They don't even disclose what things will cost you.
We should start lobbying Congress for compulsory legal insurance.

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Post by 09042014 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:20 pm

alwayssunnyinfl wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:Doctors are even worse. They don't even disclose what things will cost you.
We should start lobbying Congress for compulsory legal insurance.
We already do, and stupid public defenders still can't figure out how to scam it.

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Re: A Breakdown Of The Billable Hour from Yale

Post by alwayssunnyinfl » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:20 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
alwayssunnyinfl wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:Doctors are even worse. They don't even disclose what things will cost you.
We should start lobbying Congress for compulsory legal insurance.
We already do, and stupid public defenders still can't figure out how to scam it.
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Post by Theopliske8711 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:40 pm

We're all gonna die and we're gonna have nothing but a bunch of work hours accumulated.

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Re: A Breakdown Of The Billable Hour from Yale

Post by alwayssunnyinfl » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:27 pm

nickb285 wrote:
Theopliske8711 wrote:We're all gonna die
Your avatar goes well with this statement.
That's the one where Homer gets a job with that tech company in Washington or something, right?

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Post by Remmy » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:33 pm

Just looked at a partner's billable time entry for yesterday:

Billing Rate: $750
Duration: 5.5 hours
Total: $4,125
Description: "Review documents."

He reviewed 3 deposition notices that were 2 pages in length...

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Re: A Breakdown Of The Billable Hour from Yale

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alwayssunnyinfl wrote:
nickb285 wrote:
Theopliske8711 wrote:We're all gonna die
Your avatar goes well with this statement.
That's the one where Homer gets a job with that tech company in Washington or something, right?
Yea. The episode is called "you only move twice". excellent episode!

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Re: A Breakdown Of The Billable Hour from Yale

Post by Remmy » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:55 pm

Theopliske8711 wrote:
alwayssunnyinfl wrote:
nickb285 wrote:
Theopliske8711 wrote:We're all gonna die
Your avatar goes well with this statement.
That's the one where Homer gets a job with that tech company in Washington or something, right?
Yea. The episode is called "you only move twice". excellent episode!
Great episode, great season. I miss the old Simpsons...

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