This publication does.jeffgarlin wrote:I don't add my total commute time to working hours and claim that's how much I worked.
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It adds it to the time worked, but not to billiable time.alwayssunnyinfl wrote:This publication does.jeffgarlin wrote:I don't add my total commute time to working hours and claim that's how much I worked.
I suspect that this is to serve as an aide to many who will possible entering I to their first real job. For some who only have had the experience of living on/near campus and stroll into class in a few minutes, may find their new logistics to be a bit of a pain. I saw this as my current job has about 3 hours of round trip commuting time per day. This time is not billed to my employer, but it is something I do for work, and is a big part of my planning.
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I'm just saying that if one of my friends were bitching to me about how she worked a 60 hour work week, and then I find out that 5 hours of that time was lunch breaks, 5 hours was commute time, 2.5 hours of that time was for miscellaneous breaks, etc. I would think she was being a bit dramatic.haus wrote:It adds it to the time worked, but not to billiable time.alwayssunnyinfl wrote:This publication does.jeffgarlin wrote:I don't add my total commute time to working hours and claim that's how much I worked.
I suspect that this is to serve as an aide to many who will possible entering I to their first real job. For some who only have had the experience of living on/near campus and stroll into class in a few minutes, may find their new logistics to be a bit of a pain. I saw this as my current job has about 3 hours of round trip commuting time per day. This time is not billed to my employer, but it is something I do for work, and is a big part of my planning.
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but they aren't including the commute in the actual hours. look at the numbers again.alwayssunnyinfl wrote:I'm just saying that if one of my friends were bitching to me about how she worked a 60 hour work week, and then I find out that 5 hours of that time was lunch breaks, 5 hours was commute time, 2.5 hours of that time was for miscellaneous breaks, etc. I would think she was being a bit dramatic.haus wrote:It adds it to the time worked, but not to billiable time.alwayssunnyinfl wrote:This publication does.jeffgarlin wrote:I don't add my total commute time to working hours and claim that's how much I worked.
I suspect that this is to serve as an aide to many who will possible entering I to their first real job. For some who only have had the experience of living on/near campus and stroll into class in a few minutes, may find their new logistics to be a bit of a pain. I saw this as my current job has about 3 hours of round trip commuting time per day. This time is not billed to my employer, but it is something I do for work, and is a big part of my planning.
2420 (time at work) -1832 (billed) = 588/47=12.5/5=2.5 which is the time they already subtract for lunch, breaks, email, meetings, etc.
the commute was just included to give people an idea of what the day might look like
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Do people track their billables this accurately? I mean... working lunches kind of seem to solve this problem. I know at my current job people take 15 minute breaks but just bill that to the client... hmmmm, leave it to yale to shit on the rest of us
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What if you eat and work at the same time? Can you bill it then?ManOfTheMinute wrote:Do people track their billables this accurately? I mean... working lunches kind of seem to solve this problem. I know at my current job people take 15 minute breaks but just bill that to the client... hmmmm, leave it to yale to shit on the rest of us
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Sure, as long as you are thinking about work, you can shit and bill too.Crowing wrote:What if you eat and work at the same time? Can you bill it then?ManOfTheMinute wrote:Do people track their billables this accurately? I mean... working lunches kind of seem to solve this problem. I know at my current job people take 15 minute breaks but just bill that to the client... hmmmm, leave it to yale to shit on the rest of us
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Always funny hearing new associates ask if "X" "Y" & "Z" is billable.
Almost never hear those questions after the first day. Those that do ask it after day 1 usually aren't at firms for too long.
Almost never hear those questions after the first day. Those that do ask it after day 1 usually aren't at firms for too long.
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Elaborate, I don't follow what oyu mean.Remmy wrote:Always funny hearing new associates ask if "X" "Y" & "Z" is billable.
Almost never hear those questions after the first day. Those that do ask it after day 1 usually aren't at firms for too long.
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Everything is billable. People that are honest and self-cut time their time, don't pad their bills, or feel like some tasks may not be billable usually don't meet hours and are asked to leave.Desert Fox wrote:Elaborate, I don't follow what oyu mean.Remmy wrote:Always funny hearing new associates ask if "X" "Y" & "Z" is billable.
Almost never hear those questions after the first day. Those that do ask it after day 1 usually aren't at firms for too long.
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Ok that's what I thought. I thought the first rule of padding is that you don't talk about padding.Remmy wrote:Everything is billable. People that are honest and self-cut time their time, don't pad their bills, or feel like some tasks may not be billable usually don't meet hours and are asked to leave.Desert Fox wrote:Elaborate, I don't follow what oyu mean.Remmy wrote:Always funny hearing new associates ask if "X" "Y" & "Z" is billable.
Almost never hear those questions after the first day. Those that do ask it after day 1 usually aren't at firms for too long.
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Check out some of the bills that have been made public in the Apple v. Samsung case. Quinn spends like 200 hours on a 10 page motion...Desert Fox wrote:Ok that's what I thought. I thought the first rule of padding is that you don't talk about padding.Remmy wrote:Everything is billable. People that are honest and self-cut time their time, don't pad their bills, or feel like some tasks may not be billable usually don't meet hours and are asked to leave.Desert Fox wrote:Elaborate, I don't follow what oyu mean.Remmy wrote:Always funny hearing new associates ask if "X" "Y" & "Z" is billable.
Almost never hear those questions after the first day. Those that do ask it after day 1 usually aren't at firms for too long.
Can't think of any other industry that has this business model.
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Car mechanics.
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And people trust the two professions about equally.Desert Fox wrote:Car mechanics.
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Doctors are even worse. They don't even disclose what things will cost you.
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We should start lobbying Congress for compulsory legal insurance.Desert Fox wrote:Doctors are even worse. They don't even disclose what things will cost you.
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We already do, and stupid public defenders still can't figure out how to scam it.alwayssunnyinfl wrote:We should start lobbying Congress for compulsory legal insurance.Desert Fox wrote:Doctors are even worse. They don't even disclose what things will cost you.
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Desert Fox wrote:We already do, and stupid public defenders still can't figure out how to scam it.alwayssunnyinfl wrote:We should start lobbying Congress for compulsory legal insurance.Desert Fox wrote:Doctors are even worse. They don't even disclose what things will cost you.
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We're all gonna die and we're gonna have nothing but a bunch of work hours accumulated.
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That's the one where Homer gets a job with that tech company in Washington or something, right?nickb285 wrote:Your avatar goes well with this statement.Theopliske8711 wrote:We're all gonna die
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Just looked at a partner's billable time entry for yesterday:
Billing Rate: $750
Duration: 5.5 hours
Total: $4,125
Description: "Review documents."
He reviewed 3 deposition notices that were 2 pages in length...
Billing Rate: $750
Duration: 5.5 hours
Total: $4,125
Description: "Review documents."
He reviewed 3 deposition notices that were 2 pages in length...
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Yea. The episode is called "you only move twice". excellent episode!alwayssunnyinfl wrote:That's the one where Homer gets a job with that tech company in Washington or something, right?nickb285 wrote:Your avatar goes well with this statement.Theopliske8711 wrote:We're all gonna die
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Great episode, great season. I miss the old Simpsons...Theopliske8711 wrote:Yea. The episode is called "you only move twice". excellent episode!alwayssunnyinfl wrote:That's the one where Homer gets a job with that tech company in Washington or something, right?nickb285 wrote:Your avatar goes well with this statement.Theopliske8711 wrote:We're all gonna die