C/O 2015 Medians and Class Sizes Forum

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[2014]

I feel like we're not gonna see a full story just based on medians. Rather, splitters are going to be admitted more readily at schools that were less splitter friendly. This was hinted at through some of the people on LSN but it's really hard to get a worthwhile sample since there's 1. Only so many splitters and 2. Only so many on LSN

25th and 75th %iles will be what you are interested in then. If the margin from 25th-->50th is large you will know schools took splitters and depending on the margin from 50th-->75th you will see perhaps whether schools favored deep splitters or if they didn't care as long as you were above median. Ex: WUSTLs 50th and 75th LSAT are probably going to be the same or 1 apart because for them as long as you are above median it doesn't matter how far above you are. On the other hand NU takes deep splits too but seems to prefer LSATs to be higher than median.

[VUSisterRayVU]

I feel like we're not gonna see a full story just based on medians. Rather, splitters are going to be admitted more readily at schools that were less splitter friendly. This was hinted at through some of the people on LSN but it's really hard to get a worthwhile sample since there's 1. Only so many splitters and 2. Only so many on LSN

25th and 75th %iles will be what you are interested in then. If the margin from 25th-->50th is large you will know schools took splitters and depending on the margin from 50th-->75th you will see perhaps whether schools favored deep splitters or if they didn't care as long as you were above median. Ex: WUSTLs 50th and 75th LSAT are probably going to be the same or 1 apart because for them as long as you are above median it doesn't matter how far above you are. On the other hand NU takes deep splits too but seems to prefer LSATs to be higher than median.

tyft, appreciate the analysis

[99.9luft]

Kev, good idea for a thread.

Also, enjoy your summer (or whatever is left of your freedom).

[geary86]

no new median info yet?

[KevinP]

Added data for gm... on mobile phone since im in cls housing with no internet... huge decline in class size and still a median decline.. will add colors later

Format is: lsat (change from last year), GPA (change), Class size (change)

[KevinP]

Kev, good idea for a thread.

Also, enjoy your summer (or whatever is left of your freedom).

Bro... im already jaded about my employment outcomes.. if feel if i absolutely dislike law... i may drop out

[LSATSCORES2012]

Hmm, still nothing on Duke?

[thelawyler]

Considering George Mason had a class of 300 just two years ago, now a class of 160 just seems absurdly small. And they STILL dropped medians.

Law schools, the end is near.

[99.9luft]

Considering George Mason had a class of 300 just two years ago, now a class of 160 just seems absurdly small. And they STILL dropped medians.

Law schools, the end is near.

[99.9luft]

Kev, good idea for a thread.

Also, enjoy your summer (or whatever is left of your freedom).

Bro... im already jaded about my employment outcomes.. if feel if i absolutely dislike law... i may drop out

gchat tomorrow, brosef.

[top30man]

Considering George Mason had a class of 300 just two years ago, now a class of 160 just seems absurdly small. And they STILL dropped medians.

Law schools, the end is near.

Not surprising considering their shit employment prospects.

[southwick]

SLS's orientation technically starts the 29th but we likely won't hear anything about medians until the 30th, so you can probably dispense with the question marks .

[thelawyler]

I guess we should hear from UCLA, Vandy, Columbia, and GW soon as their orientations were this week.

[VUSisterRayVU]

Considering George Mason had a class of 300 just two years ago, now a class of 160 just seems absurdly small. And they STILL dropped medians.

Law schools, the end is near.

Not surprising considering their shit employment prospects.

This. It may be wishful thinking on my part, but I doubt we're gonna see significant drops in class sizes across the T14. At most, it may be 10% at some place like GULC but even that would be huge and not likely imo.

[thelawyler]

Considering George Mason had a class of 300 just two years ago, now a class of 160 just seems absurdly small. And they STILL dropped medians.

Law schools, the end is near.

Not surprising considering their shit employment prospects.

This. It may be wishful thinking on my part, but I doubt we're gonna see significant drops in class sizes across the T14. At most, it may be 10% at some place like GULC but even that would be huge and not likely imo.

I think we might see some drop. Even Duke dropped 10% last year.

[AllDangle]

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[VUSisterRayVU]

Considering George Mason had a class of 300 just two years ago, now a class of 160 just seems absurdly small. And they STILL dropped medians.

Law schools, the end is near.

Not surprising considering their shit employment prospects.

This. It may be wishful thinking on my part, but I doubt we're gonna see significant drops in class sizes across the T14. At most, it may be 10% at some place like GULC but even that would be huge and not likely imo.

I think we might see some drop. Even Duke dropped 10% last year.

Do you think they could sustain a drop of 20% over two years AND take the median hit?

[KevinP]

Davis added

[thelawyler]

Davis added

That looks fairly okay for them.

But we do know that the biggest drop in applicants were those with LSAT in the elite level of scores, so we'll see what happens up there.

[emkay625]

No clue about medians, but Texas' class size is 300. (That's a drop of 75).

[thelawyler]

No clue about medians, but Texas' class size is 300. (That's a drop of 75).

Wow, 20% drop.

[geary86]

UC Davis: 163 (-1), 3.6 (-.03), 191 (-1)
University of Georgia: 164 (-1), 3.67 (+.08), 189 (-36, -16%)
George Mason (FT + PT): 163(-1), 3.7(-.02), 147(-39, -20.98%)

so far, -1 seems to be the new norm? (even with huge drops in class sizes)

[justonemoregame]

For those of you interested in viewing complete profiles, LST has recently posted the GPA/LSAT and enrollment data for the previous two entering classes:

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[bigeast03]

Vanderbilt- Class size of only 173 (down 20 from last year)

LSAT
25% - 164 (-1)
Median - 169 (+/- 0)
75% - 170 (+/- 0)

GPA

25%: 3.4 (-0.08)
Median: 3.7 (-0.03)
75%: 3.84 (+/- 0)