Don’t Hire People Who Went To Grad School Forum

[Bildungsroman]

You may disagree with the contents of the article, but like it or not, this is the way hiring trends are going. Employers want someone with a proven track record of success in the real world, not someone with 7 years of worthless theoretical "training".

Thank you for your competent argument against business school; we here at top-business-schools.com really appreciate your continued contributions.

[Samara]

She's actually really famous -- but I'd say most of her fame comes from writing controversial blog posts. Other than that, I don't think she was that successful in other ways. She's really not successful in the traditional sense. And law students/lawyers/0Ls are probably on the most "traditional" or "conservative" end of the career path. She's all about entrepreneurship, business, being controversial, etc. I mean, I don't even think she should give advice considering all her success is just from writing outlandish BS.

She's not really successful in any sense, other than being "famous." She was dropped by Yahoo and was pushed out as the CEO of her own startup after the company was, in her words, "moving too fast for me to keep up."

[Tiago Splitter]

You may disagree with the contents of the article, but like it or not, this is the way hiring trends are going. Employers want someone with a proven track record of success in the real world, not someone with 7 years of worthless theoretical "training".

I was hired into the discount brokerage industry with almost no practical experience. Why anyone would want to spend a career taking 100 calls a day or managing those who do (and dealing with the really shitty, escalated calls) is beyond me. Series 7 is meaningless dude.

[Moomoo2u]

She's actually really famous -- but I'd say most of her fame comes from writing controversial blog posts. Other than that, I don't think she was that successful in other ways. She's really not successful in the traditional sense. And law students/lawyers/0Ls are probably on the most "traditional" or "conservative" end of the career path. She's all about entrepreneurship, business, being controversial, etc. I mean, I don't even think she should give advice considering all her success is just from writing outlandish BS.

She's not really successful in any sense, other than being "famous." She was dropped by Yahoo and was pushed out as the CEO of her own startup after the company was, in her words, "moving too fast for me to keep up."

looks like her career got truncated.

[freestallion]

You may disagree with the contents of the article, but like it or not, this is the way hiring trends are going. Employers want someone with a proven track record of success in the real world, not someone with 7 years of worthless theoretical "training".

That's like saying, "Hospitals are not interested in hiring doctors who went to business school and not medical school."

You apply for the job you're trained to do. Is anyone with a brain seriously going to law school to intentionally get a job outside of law?

+1 Exactly. Her advice may be more relevant to people in the business/entrepreneurship world, but not everyone wants to do that. I don't want to start my own company. I'm interested in a legal career. There is no way to do that other than law school.

I do agree that most lawyers are unhappy and there are too many lawyers out there. Supply > Demand. But it doesn't mean that you shouldn't go to law school at all (or grad school in general) if you get into a great school, are sure of what you want to do coming out of it, etc.

On the other hand, if you want to be successful for just being "famous" then please go ahead and start a blog, and write a ton of controversial crap. I'm sure you'll be as "successful" as Penelope Trunk then.

[Samara]

You may disagree with the contents of the article, but like it or not, this is the way hiring trends are going. Employers want someone with a proven track record of success in the real world, not someone with 7 years of worthless theoretical "training".

Thank you for your competent argument against business school; we here at top-business-schools.com really appreciate your continued contributions.

Just as top-b-schools.com was spun-off from TLS, this is MTal's latest attempt to get TLS branding for top-retail-stores.com, per Helmholtz's suggestion.

[rayiner]

Yes. Don't hire physics PhD's to do research or engineering PhD's to design nuclear reactors. Those people are all idiots.

[Bildungsroman]

Unsurprising.

Died laughing.

[Patriot1208]

So, I get the backlash that is directed at Mtal here. But there is some truth to what he is saying. Education value is diminishing among most employers and having work experience is more important than ever. And a lot of people on here may be upset about it, but yes, if you can't find legal work your JD is not going "open doors" into other fields. The BA who has had 3 years finance experience will be the person you are competing with and they will, all other things held constant, get the job. Same in most other industries. Over education is a problem for a lot of people these days, especially those with masters in the humanities.

[Hawkeye Pierce]

Unsurprising.

Died laughing.

I like the one where she talks about what it's like to have sex with an aspie.

[Moomoo2u]

Unsurprising.

Died laughing.

Nov. 2007 Stop thinking you'll get by on your high IQ

[Hawkeye Pierce]

but yes, if you can't find legal work your JD is not going "open doors" into other fields.

The thing is, everyone already knows this.

Unfortunately, we have the displeasure of MTal presenting hyperbolic rhetoric and one-sided arguments ad nauseam.

[Bildungsroman]

Unsurprising.

Died laughing.

I like the one where she talks about what it's like to have sex with an aspie.

I can peg my ovulation to the hour if I check every half-hour, which I can do because I can stick my hand in my vagina anywhere—even in a job interview, if the person leaves the room to get some water.

Clearly she's the right person to give advice on finding a job.

[Patriot1208]

but yes, if you can't find legal work your JD is not going "open doors" into other fields.

The thing is, everyone already knows this.

I don't think that's true, maybe the regulars on here. But that is an unrepresentative sample.

[Samara]

Surprising:

I went to graduate school for English...

Unsurprising.

I almost did not graduate college because I had too many library fines. I graduated only because my grandma made some calls.

Sounds like the perfect person to advise people on educational choices.

[Bildungsroman]

Unsurprising.

Died laughing.

Nov. 2007 Stop thinking you'll get by on your high IQ

My son's I.Q. is in the top .05% of all preschoolers

[Patriot1208]

Unsurprising.

Died laughing.

Nov. 2007 Stop thinking you'll get by on your high IQ

My son's I.Q. is in the top .05% of all preschoolers

My favorite was:

...but sometimes, I make you cringe.

I think I’m that way in bed, too.

ORLY? Tell me more

eta then I read on:

my mom taught me to do Kegel exercises before I even got my first period.

[Moomoo2u]

Unsurprising.

Died laughing.

Nov. 2007 Stop thinking you'll get by on your high IQ

My son's I.Q. is in the top .05% of all preschoolers

that has to be a troll post.

[blink]

I lol'd

[Naked Dude]

Unsurprising.

Died laughing.

I like the one where she talks about what it's like to have sex with an aspie.

I can peg my ovulation to the hour if I check every half-hour, which I can do because I can stick my hand in my vagina anywhere—even in a job interview, if the person leaves the room to get some water.

Clearly she's the right person to give advice on finding a job.

Next time I'm at the AT&T store and I find a phone logged into facebook, that's going to be a status update

[johnnyutah]

Plus, everyone knows sex is the only reason people do anything. It's science. Anyone who can have sex without money doesn't need it.

This is absolutely and completely false.

[johnnyutah]

Excellent article with some great points:

http://www.openforum.com/articles/dont- ... nf-SBdaily

This person may actually have a point, but only if you (the job seeker) want to work in business. The thing is, business is boring.

[romothesavior]

MT;DR

[johansantana21]

Is this blogger serious?

[shoeshine]

Everyone knows the prized workers are the ones with their GEDs. They couldn't wait to join the workforce so they dropped out AND showed the initiative to go back and earn their equivalency degree.

Broad brushstrokes paint terribly unrealistic pictures.

I'd rather hire a GED graduate with 7 years of work experience and real life practical skills, then a JD who's spent 7 years and 150k and learned essentially nothing that's applicable to the position he's applying for.

This whole statement = fail.