Just got score today! 168 3.2 gpa . . . can i Pepperdine? Forum

[cartercl]

My initial response simply implied that it was wrong of you to criticize OP's beliefs.

Fair enough, and maybe I went about it the wrong way. However, I don't think the OP's reason for attending an inferior school in relation to his LSAT should be immune from criticism simply because it's a religious belief. If the OP said he wanted to attend the Univ. of New Mexico because it is closer to Roswell, and that would please his alien masters, and he was 100% sincere in his belief, people would jump all over him and/or assume he is insane. But when he insists his reasons are because of a personal god, which is no more believable than aliens, he gets a free pass. I'm not the first TLS'er to criticize a stupid decision on where to attend law school. I've seen criticisms on this board that are far more virulent than anything I've said in this thread.

Agreed. But let's criticize his reasoning. I honestly don't think it's all that different from people wanting to go to lower ranked schools for family/personal reasons. Is his reason legitimate? I don't think that's up for anyone in this thread to decide. All OP asked was whether admission to Pepperdine was likely. And yes, the applicant in your scenario would be a bit ridiculous, but I think you are still being a tad facetious as well as continuing to interject your personal opinion into the discussion. Objectivity is the goal here.

I think it's a bit more understandable for one to attend law school based on religious beliefs that a large number of Americans share, than one as ridiculous as wanting to be close to E.T. Yeah, that guy would be a total idiot. It may not be believable to you, but it's clearly a view that is believable enough to have survived for thousands of years and still have followers in droves.

[Case2L]

I think you are still being a tad facetious as well as continuing to interject your personal opinion into the discussion.

Fair enough - I'll shelf the Christopher Hitchens schtick when I post responses.

[romothesavior]

Wow. Your lack of comprehension amazes me. First of all, you should nopt be the one demanding evidence because it was you who had the extraordinary (and initial) claim that God was "imaginary."

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I think you totally missed Case's point. But I agree with both of you that this is not the time for a religious debate. Keeping the merits of religion out of this, we can at least say that Case's argument for not going to Pepperdine for religious reasons is credited.

Seriously though, this is clearly flame. He wants to go to Pepperdine for "Our Lord and his majestic beaches?" Come on people...

And just in case there are people out there (and I'm sure there are) stupid enough to pick your school for religious reasons, take heed: You are essentially going to a TRADE SCHOOL. You are going there to learn a specific skill and (hopefully) gain employment in the field of law. Whoever picks a lower school than they can get into because of some silly religious reason deserves to suffocate in their mountain of debt.

Any real people in Flamey McFlamerson's shoes should go to BC, ND, GULC, etc., or better yet, go to the best school for you and attend a church. This is America, people. There are Fundies everywhere. Go to the school that offers the lowest debt/best job prospects and hang out with the churchies there.

[Grizz]

or better yet, go to the best school for you and attend a church.

This credited response for some reason does not seem to obvious to many.

[romothesavior]

or better yet, go to the best school for you and attend a church.

This credited response for some reason does not seem to obvious to many.

Even worse was the dumbass girl trying to get responses on schools with the best churches. And she had great numbers too, IIRC. We were all like, "If you go to school at GULC, NW, CCN, etc., there will be hundreds of churches to choose from." And she kept persisting and asking if anyone had first-hand knowledge of churches because it was a really important factor for her. It was like, do you really not think you can find a good church in an area you want to go to school in, especially in a metro area?

[fenderjsm88]

Most schools have some kind of Christian student group or a prayer group, plus there are churches everywhere. It's not like Pepperdine's teachers incorporate Christianity into the law...at least I don't think they do.

[romothesavior]

Also ITT: Romo learns that Pepperdine is a verb.

[kalvano]

Pepperdine is in Malibu, correct?

Enjoy sky-high COL and hotties in bikinis to tempt your naughty bits away from the good Lord.

[thecilent]

Also ITT: Romo learns that Pepperdine is a verb.

lol Love this

[Connelly]

or better yet, go to the best school for you and attend a church.

This credited response for some reason does not seem to obvious to many.

Even worse was the dumbass girl trying to get responses on schools with the best churches. And she had great numbers too, IIRC. We were all like, "If you go to school at GULC, NW, CCN, etc., there will be hundreds of churches to choose from." And she kept persisting and asking if anyone had first-hand knowledge of churches because it was a really important factor for her. It was like, do you really not think you can find a good church in an area you want to go to school in, especially in a metro area?

I think she misunderstands "finding Jesus." Or the ubiquitous God does not exist at TTT schools. Either is pretty likely.

[kalvano]

Find him? Is he lost? I thought Jesus used an iPhone, that has maps built in.

Anyway, how could a supreme being and creator of all be lost or need to be found? He made everything, he probably knows where he is.

[cartercl]

I think you totally missed Case's point.

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And exactly what point did I miss? The guy told me that I should be the one to provide evidence for my "extraordinary claim." The "claim" he was referring to was this:

And to think... it's always the Atheists and Agnostics that scream "bloody murder" when Christians criticize their views.

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That's not a claim. He made the initial claim that God does not exist when he said "imaginary friend." Therefore the burden of proof is on him, not me. I think you missed my point.

[romothesavior]

That's not a claim. He made the initial claim that God does not exist when he said "imaginary friend." Therefore the burden of proof is on him, not me. I think you missed my point.

If you want to discuss this further, make a thread in the lounge so I can explain just how silly the bolded is.

[cartercl]

That's not a claim. He made the initial claim that God does not exist when he said "imaginary friend." Therefore the burden of proof is on him, not me. I think you missed my point.

When you choose to tell me why I am wrong, by actually proving your point and not just stating it, I will be more than willing to listen (unlike you).

Edit: How about you just PM me and tell me. Seriously. I'm very interested.

[weaselology]

Quick question. Should be easy for the savants here. Shoot from the hip. I've already seen lawschoolpredictor.com, would like some human feedback.

Me:
168 June LSAT (one and only)
3.2 BA GPA from a Cal State
3.4 MA GPA from a Cal State

Pepperdine:
162 Median LSAT / 163 75th percentile LSAT
3.6 median GPA / 25th - 3.4 / 75th - 3.8

Will I be accepted?

Will my higher than average LSAT make up for my lower than average GPA?

I've heard that Pepperdine is a "GPA school" on a couple occasions.

I've heard that they do not consider grad school GPA but only BA GPA.

I think you have a very high chance of admission to Pepperdine. I won't say it is a definite (sorry) but I would be surprised if you didn't get in. I believe what you have heard is correct - Pepperdine is focused on GPA a bit more than LSAT.

Your high LSAT should make up for the somewhat low GPA. However, I think where you may be hurt is in terms of potential scholarship money - for instance, the Faculty Scholarship recommends a minimum GPA of 3.65 (it provides a full scholarship plus $5K stipend, pretty sweet). I would still suggest you apply for these scholarships, however.

If you want advice to improve your chances:
1) Apply early (complete in October/November). This means having your recommendations lined up probably over summer. Also, start working on your personal statement soon so you have time to revise and polish it. This applies to all law schools, not just Pepperdine.
2) Be aware that you have to write a mandatory supplementary essay on how you will use your Pepperdine education to further Christian values.
3) Ignore the anti-religious invective that abounds on this site and look for meaningful advice as TLS is a good resource for apps.
4) If you have a compelling reason for only a 3.2 gpa (not that it's awful btw), consider writing a supplementary essay explaining it.

For what it's worth, I applied and was accepted last cycle (not attending though). They also offered a generous scholarship.

[romothesavior]

3) Ignore the anti-religious invective that abounds on this site and look for meaningful advice as TLS is a good resource for apps.

Telling OP that (s)he should forgo a mediocre overpriced school in a saturated market and go to a better school (with $$) is not religious invective. Even without a bit of religion in this discussion, the advice would be the same, and a lot of religious people ITT are giving the same advice as the heathens like myself. Absent a solid reason for choosing Pepperdine (like, OP really wants to be in that area and can get a big scholly), OP should go elsewhere.

But whatever, now that I think about it, I don't really care. If you guys want to be unemployed while you glorify Jeebus, then knock yourselves out.

[thecilent]

3) Ignore the anti-religious invective that abounds on this site and look for meaningful advice as TLS is a good resource for apps.

Telling OP that (s)he should forgo a mediocre overpriced school in a saturated market and go to a better school (with $$) is not religious invective. Even without a bit of religion in this discussion, the advice would be the same, and a lot of religious people ITT are giving the same advice as the heathens like myself. Absent a solid reason for choosing Pepperdine (like, OP really wants to be in that area and can get a big scholly), OP should go elsewhere.

But whatever, now that I think about it, I don't really care. If you guys want to be unemployed while you glorify Jeebus, then knock yourselves out.

Well-put, Rome

[Merr]

Why Pepperdine? You can do better.

feels good man

short answer:
1. Our Lord
2. His majestic beaches

To approach this from an angle other then religion...wtf do beaches have to do with anything related to law school? Do you see Law school as a three year vacation?

[weaselology]

3) Ignore the anti-religious invective that abounds on this site and look for meaningful advice as TLS is a good resource for apps.

Telling OP that (s)he should forgo a mediocre overpriced school in a saturated market and go to a better school (with $$) is not religious invective. Even without a bit of religion in this discussion, the advice would be the same, and a lot of religious people ITT are giving the same advice as the heathens like myself. Absent a solid reason for choosing Pepperdine (like, OP really wants to be in that area and can get a big scholly), OP should go elsewhere.

But whatever, now that I think about it, I don't really care. If you guys want to be unemployed while you glorify Jeebus, then knock yourselves out.

Suggesting a higher ranked school is fine and prudent (I am attending one myself). Making fun of Christianity/God/Jesus as many posters in this thread have, however, adds nothing in the way of helping the OP, nor does it improve the quality of this site. Perhaps, for OP, the religious focus of the school is in fact a solid reason for attending Pepperdine; I have no idea, but he asked specifically about Pepperdine, so I gave him an answer about Pepperdine.

As for my "glorifying Jeebus" - I am not a practicing Christian.

[Always Credited]

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[Grizz]

Also ITT: Romo learns that Pepperdine is a verb.

I feel a meme coming on.

[Grizz]

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[clintonius]

Did the burden of proof discussion ever happen over in the lounge? 'Cause that shit's hilarious, and no matter how often it happens on forums, I never get tired of it.

[romothesavior]

Did the burden of proof discussion ever happen over in the lounge? 'Cause that shit's hilarious, and no matter how often it happens on forums, I never get tired of it.

It happened via PM.

[cartercl]

Did the burden of proof discussion ever happen over in the lounge? 'Cause that shit's hilarious, and no matter how often it happens on forums, I never get tired of it.

You have no idea what you're talking about. So please, just stop.