Any advice for a friend with low GPA/LSAT Forum

[ikari_ningen]

Cute...but, this is not the case King James. I was accepted to all, but one of the schools I applied to (waitlisted at a T14)and am attending a T30 (in the region I want to live) on a scholarship. It doesn't really matter, though! Even if the individual was me, would you have any advice to offer?
Thanks everyone for your responses (positive or negative). My friend always wants to talk about law school, and I do not know what else to say to him/her at this point. Maybe in time, this issue will resolve itself. The person in question will surprise us all and knock out a 170 LSAT, he/she will realize I have no additional advice to offer, or maybe he/she will find another dream. Best of luck to each of you moving forward!! Thanks again. It has been helpful to discuss this with fellow TLSers.

Are you not sure what sex your friend is?

[Favor2010]

LOL...the friend is not on TLS but some of the friend's other friends are. They don't know me, but I dont want it to be too obvious I guess. I am sure, if they browsed this forum they would figure it out anyway at this point. But oh well.

Cute...but, this is not the case King James. I was accepted to all, but one of the schools I applied to (waitlisted at a T14)and am attending a T30 (in the region I want to live) on a scholarship. It doesn't really matter, though! Even if the individual was me, would you have any advice to offer?
Thanks everyone for your responses (positive or negative). My friend always wants to talk about law school, and I do not know what else to say to him/her at this point. Maybe in time, this issue will resolve itself. The person in question will surprise us all and knock out a 170 LSAT, he/she will realize I have no additional advice to offer, or maybe he/she will find another dream. Best of luck to each of you moving forward!! Thanks again. It has been helpful to discuss this with fellow TLSers.

Are you not sure what sex your friend is?

[ikari_ningen]

LOL...the friend is not on TLS but some of the friend's other friends are. They don't know me, but I dont want it to be too obvious I guess. I am sure, if they browsed this forum they would figure it out anyway at this point. But oh well.

Cute...but, this is not the case King James. I was accepted to all, but one of the schools I applied to (waitlisted at a T14)and am attending a T30 (in the region I want to live) on a scholarship. It doesn't really matter, though! Even if the individual was me, would you have any advice to offer?
Thanks everyone for your responses (positive or negative). My friend always wants to talk about law school, and I do not know what else to say to him/her at this point. Maybe in time, this issue will resolve itself. The person in question will surprise us all and knock out a 170 LSAT, he/she will realize I have no additional advice to offer, or maybe he/she will find another dream. Best of luck to each of you moving forward!! Thanks again. It has been helpful to discuss this with fellow TLSers.

Are you not sure what sex your friend is?

I would think that LSAT score and GPA would be a dead giveaway, even more than the sex. And the age. And the work experience. But yeah, total anonymity WIN!

[cubswin]

LOL...the friend is not on TLS but some of the friend's other friends are. They don't know me, but I dont want it to be too obvious I guess. I am sure, if they browsed this forum they would figure it out anyway at this point. But oh well.

Cute...but, this is not the case King James. I was accepted to all, but one of the schools I applied to (waitlisted at a T14)and am attending a T30 (in the region I want to live) on a scholarship. It doesn't really matter, though! Even if the individual was me, would you have any advice to offer?
Thanks everyone for your responses (positive or negative). My friend always wants to talk about law school, and I do not know what else to say to him/her at this point. Maybe in time, this issue will resolve itself. The person in question will surprise us all and knock out a 170 LSAT, he/she will realize I have no additional advice to offer, or maybe he/she will find another dream. Best of luck to each of you moving forward!! Thanks again. It has been helpful to discuss this with fellow TLSers.

Are you not sure what sex your friend is?

Isn't the GPA/LSAT combo, three LSAT attempts, and uncertainty about possibly attending law school probably a lot more indicative of who you are talking about than your friend's sex? Do you have male and female friends that satisfy all those conditions?

[Ty Webb]

FWIW, a low GPA isn't a complete disqualification, given the presence of other factors. I had a 2.3x and I'll be at a lower T1 this fall (granted I had a good reason for the GPA and my LSAT approached 170).

Not sure what the options are for the person in question. I tend to think that a great LSAT is truly the only way to overcome a miserable GPA.

[Favor2010]

I think you are both right. It would be easy to figure it out without too much effort. I felt the GPA/LSAT combo and the multiple attempts were necessary in order to get the situation. Simply saying the person had a Low GPA/LSAT combo would not be enough. Some of us TLSers think 3.0 and 155 are low numbers, and to a few others those numbers are golden. The person's sex would not change the situation or the advice very much. The numbers certainly would!

LOL...the friend is not on TLS but some of the friend's other friends are. They don't know me, but I dont want it to be too obvious I guess. I am sure, if they browsed this forum they would figure it out anyway at this point. But oh well.

Cute...but, this is not the case King James. I was accepted to all, but one of the schools I applied to (waitlisted at a T14)and am attending a T30 (in the region I want to live) on a scholarship. It doesn't really matter, though! Even if the individual was me, would you have any advice to offer?
Thanks everyone for your responses (positive or negative). My friend always wants to talk about law school, and I do not know what else to say to him/her at this point. Maybe in time, this issue will resolve itself. The person in question will surprise us all and knock out a 170 LSAT, he/she will realize I have no additional advice to offer, or maybe he/she will find another dream. Best of luck to each of you moving forward!! Thanks again. It has been helpful to discuss this with fellow TLSers.

Are you not sure what sex your friend is?

Isn't the GPA/LSAT combo, three LSAT attempts, and uncertainty about possibly attending law school probably a lot more indicative of who you are talking about than your friend's sex? Do you have male and female friends that satisfy all those conditions?

[Favor2010]

Thanks for your feedback. Congrats!! I will share your success story with my friend. And just reiterate the importance of a high LSAT score (target 170), and a great GPA addendum. I am not sure if they have a good reason for the GPA. The person only told me that they didn't realize how important undergrad grades would be so many years later.

FWIW, a low GPA isn't a complete disqualification, given the presence of other factors. I had a 2.3x and I'll be at a lower T1 this fall (granted I had a good reason for the GPA and my LSAT approached 170).

Not sure what the options are for the person in question. I tend to think that a great LSAT is truly the only way to overcome a miserable GPA.

[Ty Webb]

Thanks for your feedback. Congrats!! I will share your success story with my friend. And just reiterate the importance of a high LSAT score (target 170), and a great GPA addendum. I am not sure if they have a good reason for the GPA. The person only told me that they didn't realize how important undergrad grades would be so many years later.

FWIW, a low GPA isn't a complete disqualification, given the presence of other factors. I had a 2.3x and I'll be at a lower T1 this fall (granted I had a good reason for the GPA and my LSAT approached 170).

Not sure what the options are for the person in question. I tend to think that a great LSAT is truly the only way to overcome a miserable GPA.

In the interest of full disclosure, my LSAT was a (disappointing) 166. So it's not THAT far out of reach. I don't think raising your score 20 points on the 4th try is typical, though.

With that said, I think a 160 would get him in somewhere. I don't know that the somewhere would be decent.

[Favor2010]

Thanks for your feedback. Congrats!! I will share your success story with my friend. And just reiterate the importance of a high LSAT score (target 170), and a great GPA addendum. I am not sure if they have a good reason for the GPA. The person only told me that they didn't realize how important undergrad grades would be so many years later.

FWIW, a low GPA isn't a complete disqualification, given the presence of other factors. I had a 2.3x and I'll be at a lower T1 this fall (granted I had a good reason for the GPA and my LSAT approached 170).

Not sure what the options are for the person in question. I tend to think that a great LSAT is truly the only way to overcome a miserable GPA.

In the interest of full disclosure, my LSAT was a (disappointing) 166. So it's not THAT far out of reach. I don't think raising your score 20 points on the 4th try is typical, though.

With that said, I think a 160 would get him in somewhere. I don't know that the somewhere would be decent.

[KingJames6]

ah the classic "my friend (I) has (have) this problem, can you help him (me)??"

A quick scan of OP's previous posts makes your theory look incorrect.

hmmm good point. lol

[lawschoollll]

Subtly point your friend to TLS for advice. He won't like the advice, but it'll be for his own good.

[prosp23]

I don't know what state you're in, but California and a very few other states allow people to take the baby bar and then sit for the bar. Alternatively, maybe your friend would be better off applying to a non-accredited/online school and then sitting for the bar.

[kalvano]

Good grief. Why is this thread still going?

The person in question has no business at all going to any type of law school or representing clients in a court of law.

Sorry, life sucks and doesn't always work out the way you want. Time to move on.