CLASS OF 2019! MEDIANS (LSAT/GPA/CLASS SIZE) Forum

[proteinshake]

Uva

Lsat - 164-169-170
That's a plus 1 on 25th and median. No movement on 75th.

Class size reduced from 304 to 297

No international student as usual :-/

http://www.law.virginia.edu/html/prospe ... lass19.htm

pretty horrendous 25th GPA (3.48)

[34iplaw]

Uva

Lsat - 164-169-170
That's a plus 1 on 25th and median. No movement on 75th.

Class size reduced from 304 to 297

No international student as usual :-/

http://www.law.virginia.edu/html/prospe ... lass19.htm

pretty horrendous 25th GPA (3.48)

I'm not certain, but it seems like they were really friendly to splitters? Their median GPA is pretty damned high... especially in comparison.

I suppose I have more of a chance haha. God damned grad classes, 20+ credit hour semesters, prelims [they're like midterms, but they can give you more than one], and them not giving A+ at my UG. Then again, my highest GPA was senior year when I actually took the 20+credit hour semesters and grad school classes ... I'm really surprised, TBH, at how high most law school UGPAs are [even for the t-14/t-10/etc.]

[goldenbear2020]

I'm really surprised, TBH, at how high most law school UGPAs are [even for the t-14/t-10/etc.]

The median T14/T10 student probably attended a lower Ivy UG and majored in poli sci/English/history, so those who can score in the high 160s/low 170s ought to be able to cherry pick classes for a 3.7-3.9 GPA pretty easily.

[34iplaw]

I'm really surprised, TBH, at how high most law school UGPAs are [even for the t-14/t-10/etc.]

The median T14/T10 student probably attended a lower Ivy UG and majored in poli sci/English/history, so those who can score in the high 160s/low 170s ought to be able to cherry pick classes for a 3.7-3.9 GPA pretty easily.

Yeah - I get that. I just suppose I underestimate how many people would go to UG with the intention to cherry pick easy classes to get into a law school.

[zeglo]

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[RamTitan]

I'm really surprised, TBH, at how high most law school UGPAs are [even for the t-14/t-10/etc.]

The median T14/T10 student probably attended a lower Ivy UG and majored in poli sci/English/history, so those who can score in the high 160s/low 170s ought to be able to cherry pick classes for a 3.7-3.9 GPA pretty easily.

Yeah - I get that. I just suppose I underestimate how many people would go to UG with the intention to cherry pick easy classes to get into a law school.

I don't think that is the case. I think what it is, is that people who major in these subjects are very interested in the subject they're majoring in (it's not like they major in English and History for the money) and are already strong readers and writers, so they're going to get solid grades at the least.

[tzzzok]

W&L -- Class size 117(-2)
155(-3)/160(0)/161(-1)
3.19(+.11)/3.47(+.06)/3.67(+.10)

law.wlu.edu/admissions/program-information/jd-program/class-of-2019-profile

Yikes. Even a bull market can't stop the W & L free fall.

[vcap180]

Spivey: say something insightful. There have been plenty of updates and you haven't made any observations. Tell me that things are looking good for the class of 2020. Lie if you have to.

By the way, did your friend's friend know if BC had any changes in GPA or 25th/75th LSAT?

[swordking90]

Does anyone have stats on NYU? Their orientation started yesterday...

[BEng,MBA,FRM,JD(?)]

Harvard's also started yesterday it seems.

[ms9]

Spivey: say something insightful. There have been plenty of updates and you haven't made any observations. Tell me that things are looking good for the class of 2020. Lie if you have to.

By the way, did your friend's friend know if BC had any changes in GPA or 25th/75th LSAT?

I've been beholden to multiple law schools these past two weeks traveling and helping them out, so I may be brain dead on insightful comments, if I ever have even had them before.

A few things though.

For data, you can go ahead and put in Vanderbilt at +1 LSAT. Just keep in mind please know I do not speak for any of my former schools, rather the +1 has just been widely circulated now and if all of the 1L's know it, not sure why the spreadsheet can't be updated.

As a practical matter, many school don't like to release all of their data because attrition can possibly change the data come October. It probably happens like that to a few schools a year. Which is why, if you were an admissions dean, you would wan to make sure you had a cushion to your medians

For this cycle, I've long predicated this cycle will likely be no worse or more difficult for people 165 and above.

http://blog.spiveyconsulting.com/predic ... ons-cycle/

and we discussed in this thread one of the reasons why that is.

Sept LSAT registrants are up, but my projection is that test-takers will likely be up below 165 and stable above. Obviously there will be some granular differences at each discreet LSAT score.

I hope this helps!

[Huskies13!]

St. Thomas (MN)
133 (+30)
3.15(-.06)/3.36(-.12)/3.62 (-.03)
149/153(-1)/156(-1)
https://www.stthomas.edu/law/jd/admission/profile/

[goldenbear2020]

American:
https://www.wcl.american.edu/admiss/profile.cfm

Full-time:
152 / 156 (+1) / 159 (+1)
3.16 (+0.14) / 3.43 (+0.10) / 3.60 (+0.11)
381 (+50)

Part-time:
151 (-1) / 155 (+1) / 158 (+1)
2.93 (+0.13) / 3.20 (+0.17) / 3.41 (+0.01)
83 (-7)

Combined:
156 (+1)
3.40 (+0.11)
464 (+43)

[Huskies13!]

Ohio Northern:
http://law.onu.edu/main/jd_class_profile
59 (-10)
143(-1)/148(-1)/152
2.98(-.0.2)/3.32(+.10)/3.61(+.11)

[goldenbear2020]

Marquette:
https://law.marquette.edu/prospective-s ... s-profiles

149 (-1) / 153 (+1) / 156 (+1)
3.08 (+0.19) / 3.35 (+0.16) / 3.53 (+0.11)
190 (+12)

[thereelfeels]

American:
https://www.wcl.american.edu/admiss/profile.cfm

Full-time:
152 / 156 (+1) / 159 (+1)
3.16 (+0.14) / 3.43 (+0.10) / 3.60 (+0.11)
381 (+50)

Part-time:
151 (-1) / 155 (+1) / 158 (+1)
2.93 (+0.13) / 3.20 (+0.17) / 3.41 (+0.01)
83 (-7)

Combined:
156 (+1)
3.40 (+0.11)
464 (+43)

Awful lot of schools increasing class sizes this cycle vs. last cycle. Back to the old tricks.

[goldenbear2020]

Awful lot of schools increasing class sizes this cycle vs. last cycle. Back to the old tricks.

"This class size represents a striking 23% increase in enrollment over last year. Bowen is one of only fifteen schools in the country (out of 205) where enrollment is up greater than 20%."
http://ualr.edu/law/2016/08/22/bowen-we ... new-class/

[dietcoke1]

Vanderbilt full numbers
http://law.vanderbilt.edu/prospective-s ... rofile.php

75th percentile GPA: 3.85
•Median GPA: 3.70
•25th percentile GPA: 3.50
•75th percentile LSAT: 168 (96th percentile among test-takers)
•Median LSAT: 167 (94th percentile among test-takers)
•25th percentile LSAT: 162 (85th percentile among test-takers)

204 students

[dietcoke1]

spreadsheet updated

[zeglo]

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[jdanz]

Pretty crazy how Vanderbilt upped their class size quite a bit and still increased their median LSAT

[miku015]

Does anyone have stats on NYU? Their orientation started yesterday...

Didn't remember to write down the complete stats, but NYU was 171/169/16?(think it was 166), 3.8 median GPA and 432 class size. Essentially like no change from last year.

[proteinshake]

Does anyone have stats on NYU? Their orientation started yesterday...

Didn't remember to write down the complete stats, but NYU was 171/169/16?(think it was 166), 3.8 median GPA and 432 class size. Essentially like no change from last year.

LETS FUCKING GO IM FINNA BE IN THE T6 (maybe)

[Huskies13!]

UMKC:
http://law.umkc.edu/news/umkc-law-welco ... s-of-2019/
122 (-17)
152
3.39 (+.12)

[Huskies13!]

Wayne State:
138 (+8)
153(-1)/157/159
3.31(+.25)/3.45(+.03)/3.67(+.07)
http://law.wayne.edu/jd/profile.php