C/O 2017 Median LSAT/GPA/Class Size Forum

[illmaticjones]

This whole thing is real weird. A few normal posts in a 4 year old account, followed by some hardcore dumbassery and homophobia. I don't get it.

homophopia? don't channel your disorders on anyone, deal with your issues on your own... get help

[illmaticjones]

Seriously, this has to be the latest incarnation of john1990. Their writing styles are identical.

the reality is that you tried to hop on a simple post by making "tongue in cheek" comments... but I'm glad you learned your lesson today. Save the cyber bullying for you next door neighbor

[bk1]

Illmatic is taking the day off. Everybody else remember that this is still an on topic forum and act accordingly.

Are the mods taking the day off today?

It's barely noon you fucks. Though I did chuckle at dwil reporting the term "WASP" for racism.

[WichitaShocker]

So, I was going to post these numbers for Pace Law School, but I am pretty sure they are misleading... I think they posted the medians of their applicants, and not those who are attending...

http://law.pace.edu/sites/default/files ... kFacts.pdf

[Moneytrees]

The only number from Pace that matters is 40%: the likelihood of you ever working as an attorney.

[phillywc]

The only number from Pace that matters is 40%: the likelihood of you ever working as an attorney.

sure

but even for a TTTT putting the accepted GPAs and LSATs is shady as FUCK

[WichitaShocker]

The only number from Pace that matters is 40%: the likelihood of you ever working as an attorney.

sure

but even for a TTTT putting the accepted GPAs and LSATs is shady as FUCK

[03152016]

richmond does the same thing
if you search for the class profile you get this page:
http://law.richmond.edu/admissions/profile.html

but the actual class profile is on a box over in the sidebar down the page

[WichitaShocker]

richmond does the same thing
if you search for the class profile you get this page:
http://law.richmond.edu/admissions/profile.html

but the actual class profile is on a box over in the sidebar down the page

Aww come on, these schools are obviously trying to be completely transparent, and not fool anyone!

[phillywc]

But Richmond has a cute little spider for a logo

[Moneytrees]

The only number from Pace that matters is 40%: the likelihood of you ever working as an attorney.

sure

but even for a TTTT putting the accepted GPAs and LSATs is shady as FUCK

Definitely. Incredibly shady.

[whitespider]

St. Mary's Law (no combined medians, separated day/evening)
Last years medians - 151/2.96

Day
148/150/152
2.70/3.04/3.32
203 Day Enrolled

Evening
147/149/151
2.52/2.83/3.39
51 Evening Enrolled

254 Total Enrolled (-6)

https://www.stmarytx.edu/academics/law/about/st-marys/

[ms9]

We aren't going to get Emory until Oct. 15th, fyi.

[Moneytrees]

We aren't going to get Emory until Oct. 15th, fyi.

Any predictions? Moving in the rankings was a positive, but the lower Biglaw+ clerkship rate was a big talking point on the Emory class of 2017 page.

[ShipitHolla]

Why all the hate on Fordham and UIUC? Both are extremely reasonable schools with full/near-full scholly. Each gives you a decent shot at big law (~30%) and a job as an attorney with almost no debt if you only finish median. Obviously t14 with significant scholly > these two, but i'd take full rides to Fordham/UIUC over something like Michigan @ sticker where you are literally coin-flipping for big law to pay back 200K in debt. If never attending a strong regional at full or near-full scholly is a claim you guys want to make that's fine, but then don't advocate for peer schools like WashU/Notre Dame etc.

[TheodoreKGB]

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[Louis1127]

Why all the hate on Fordham and UIUC? Both are extremely reasonable schools with full/near-full scholly. Each gives you a decent shot at big law (~30%) and a job as an attorney with almost no debt if you only finish median.

You do realize that if everyone got a full-tuition scholarship, the school wouldn't exist, right?

Also you seem to be neglecting debt from sources other than tuition (there are quite a few).

Also you seem to be eerily similar to the fordham troll from before.

[fratstar1]

Fordham will turn you down before they give you a full ride. On there website they list there scholarship range as 1k-30k keep in mind tuition is over 50k and living there costs 27k/year. If you got the full 30k your still going to be paying 47k/year to go.

[TheSpanishMain]

Why all the hate on Fordham and UIUC? Both are extremely reasonable schools with full/near-full scholly. Each gives you a decent shot at big law (~30%) and a job as an attorney with almost no debt if you only finish median. Obviously t14 with significant scholly > these two, but i'd take full rides to Fordham/UIUC over something like Michigan @ sticker where you are literally coin-flipping for big law to pay back 200K in debt. If never attending a strong regional at full or near-full scholly is a claim you guys want to make that's fine, but then don't advocate for peer schools like WashU/Notre Dame etc.

I don't know about UIUC (and my knowledge about Fordham is limited to what I've read here) but the thing with Fordham is they have a reputation for being stingy. So, yeah, Fordham on a full ride isn't a bad deal at all. It's just that they don't really give out full rides, so for most people it's a moot point.

[Rigo]

Why all the hate on Fordham and UIUC? Both are extremely reasonable schools with full/near-full scholly. Each gives you a decent shot at big law (~30%) and a job as an attorney with almost no debt if you only finish median. Obviously t14 with significant scholly > these two, but i'd take full rides to Fordham/UIUC over something like Michigan @ sticker where you are literally coin-flipping for big law to pay back 200K in debt. If never attending a strong regional at full or near-full scholly is a claim you guys want to make that's fine, but then don't advocate for peer schools like WashU/Notre Dame etc.

I don't know about UIUC (and my knowledge about Fordham is limited to what I've read here) but the thing with Fordham is they have a reputation for being stingy. So, yeah, Fordham on a full ride isn't a bad deal at all. It's just that they don't really give out full rides, so for most people it's a moot point.

FWIW UIUC was very generous this past cycle. A lot of $40k+ per year scholarships.

[03152016]

no regular poster is t14 or bust
no regular poster says a regional with good placement for free is a bad idea

people who claim that's a common position on tls are either being lazy or trying to knock down straw men

[Moneytrees]

The big problem with Fordham, as well as a lot of other supposedly "top" schools, is a weak overall employment record. I'm sorry, but any school that can only place roughly 60 percent of its class into a job is simply not a good school. When you have just as high of a chance of getting Biglaw as you do of never becoming an attorney, that's an issue.

[Callsam]

Anyone know when lsac data for how many people started law school this year will come out?

[ShipitHolla]

Why all the hate on Fordham and UIUC? Both are extremely reasonable schools with full/near-full scholly. Each gives you a decent shot at big law (~30%) and a job as an attorney with almost no debt if you only finish median.

You do realize that if everyone got a full-tuition scholarship, the school wouldn't exist, right?

Also you seem to be neglecting debt from sources other than tuition (there are quite a few).

Also you seem to be eerily similar to the fordham troll from before.

I never claimed that everyone gets full-tuition scholarships. A school can be rational for one person to attend and irrational for another. Obv there is non-tuition debt, but i'm hoping a prospective student would calculate this before they attend. Borrowing roughly what you expect to make your first year out of school is a decent guide.

[cron1834]

Why all the hate on Fordham and UIUC? Both are extremely reasonable schools with full/near-full scholly. Each gives you a decent shot at big law (~30%) and a job as an attorney with almost no debt if you only finish median.

You do realize that if everyone got a full-tuition scholarship, the school wouldn't exist, right?

Also you seem to be neglecting debt from sources other than tuition (there are quite a few).

Also you seem to be eerily similar to the fordham troll from before.

I never claimed that everyone gets full-tuition scholarships. A school can be rational for one person to attend and irrational for another. Obv there is non-tuition debt, but i'm hoping a prospective student would calculate this before they attend. Borrowing roughly what you expect to make your first year out of school is a decent guide.

Please, show us prestige whores the hordes of people graduating from Fordham with "ALMOST NO DEBT."

Alternatively, stfu about that money trap that puts 35 percent of its graduates into non-attorney career tracks.