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Re: Guess the Medians Contest 2017

Post by ms9 » Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:23 am

Moneytrees wrote:I would be very surprised if apps for William and Mary dropped 25% this past cycle. I'm no expert, and perhaps Spivey can pitch in if he has any information regarding this, but wouldn't it be very hard for a school to have apps up 6% through January only to finish with a 25% decrease?

Then again, Vandy's apps were down 12% in January and apparently they finished with +11%. So I guess it could be possible. I was just under the impression that William and Mary was actually one of the few schools that hadn't seen a decrease in apps.
Up 6% in Jan then down 25% for cycle, this does seem exceptionally odd and would be an anomaly. To me, the reporting on one end being mistaken strikes me as much more likely.

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Re: Guess the Medians Contest 2017

Post by cron1834 » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:55 am

Is orientation usually the original reporting of these things? If so, who else has early starts?

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Post by Dr.Zer0 » Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:50 pm

cron1834 wrote:Is orientation usually the original reporting of these things? If so, who else has early starts?
I think Columbia starts tomorrow.

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Re: Guess the Medians Contest 2017

Post by Moneytrees » Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:15 am

Looks like NYU is the only top school in NY that saw an increase in apps (8 percent). So they may very well hold onto that 170. Meanwhile, Cornell's apps were slightly down (2 percent), so there's a chance we could be seeing that 166 after all.

http://www.newyorklawjournal.com/home/i ... 0714001000

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Re: Guess the Medians Contest 2017

Post by Nova » Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:38 am

STATS

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17 -2
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Re: Guess the Medians Contest 2017

Post by Nova » Thu Aug 14, 2014 4:24 am

3 posters are at 0 (Lavitz, Wiz, Cron)

8 posters are -2 (1/2 on guesses)

13 posters are -4 (0/2)

the median guesser is -4 (0/2)

1 poster is -8

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Re: Guess the Medians Contest 2017

Post by rebexness » Thu Aug 14, 2014 4:34 am

Lavitz should have had to start with a handicap.
Alternately I should have just copied his list.

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Re: Guess the Medians Contest 2017

Post by Lavitz » Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:05 am

rebexness wrote:Alternately I should have just copied his list.
You do realize that's exactly what Wiz did, right?

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Re: Guess the Medians Contest 2017

Post by cron1834 » Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:29 am

Lavitz and I only disagree on a few. Gonna need those to break.

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Re: Guess the Medians Contest 2017

Post by lhanvt13 » Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:38 am

-8 cool I'm on a roll. Do I get a prize if I have a record breaking negative score?

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Re: Guess the Medians Contest 2017

Post by MikeJD » Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:41 am

Moneytrees wrote:Looks like NYU is the only top school in NY that saw an increase in apps (8 percent). So they may very well hold onto that 170. Meanwhile, Cornell's apps were slightly down (2 percent), so there's a chance we could be seeing that 166 after all.

http://www.newyorklawjournal.com/home/i ... 0714001000

I doubt Cornell will slip to 166. I say that because they offered better aid than in the past and 2% is very little to a top school. on top of that they have a small class. The schools to watch are probably George Washington and Georgetown with those 400,500++ class sizes and quite possibly WUSTL. WUSTL was giving full rides to EVERYONE last year and managed a 166 with a 3.69 and had it's smallest class by far. I doubt they can offer as many full rides this year.
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Re: Guess the Medians Contest 2017

Post by lhanvt13 » Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:04 pm

MikeJD wrote:
Moneytrees wrote:Looks like NYU is the only top school in NY that saw an increase in apps (8 percent). So they may very well hold onto that 170. Meanwhile, Cornell's apps were slightly down (2 percent), so there's a chance we could be seeing that 166 after all.

http://www.newyorklawjournal.com/home/i ... 0714001000

I doubt Cornell will slip to 166. I say that because they offered better aid than in the past and 2% is very little to a top school. on top of that they have a small class. The schools to watch are probably George Washington and Georgetown with those 400,500++ class sizes and quite possibly WUSTL. WUSTL was giving full rides to EVERYONE last year and managed a 166 with a 3.69 and had it's smaller class by far. I doubt they can offer as many full rides this year.
WUSTL incoming class is supposed to be 300 I think

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Re: Guess the Medians Contest 2017

Post by MikeJD » Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:30 pm

lhanvt13 wrote:
MikeJD wrote:
Moneytrees wrote:Looks like NYU is the only top school in NY that saw an increase in apps (8 percent). So they may very well hold onto that 170. Meanwhile, Cornell's apps were slightly down (2 percent), so there's a chance we could be seeing that 166 after all.

http://www.newyorklawjournal.com/home/i ... 0714001000

I doubt Cornell will slip to 166. I say that because they offered better aid than in the past and 2% is very little to a top school. on top of that they have a small class. The schools to watch are probably George Washington and Georgetown with those 400,500++ class sizes and quite possibly WUSTL. WUSTL was giving full rides to EVERYONE last year and managed a 166 with a 3.69 and had it's smaller class by far. I doubt they can offer as many full rides this year.
WUSTL incoming class is supposed to be 300 I think
300?? No way. from 189 to 300?? Unless they want a median of 165 with a VERY low gpa.

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Re: Guess the Medians Contest 2017

Post by rebexness » Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:33 pm

Lavitz wrote:
rebexness wrote:Alternately I should have just copied his list.
You do realize that's exactly what Wiz did, right?
Thats why I didn't say Wiz needed one too ;)

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Re: Guess the Medians Contest 2017

Post by 03152016 » Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:36 pm

yeah 300 at wustl isn't happening

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Post by ms9 » Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:40 pm

Moneytrees wrote:Looks like NYU is the only top school in NY that saw an increase in apps (8 percent). So they may very well hold onto that 170. Meanwhile, Cornell's apps were slightly down (2 percent), so there's a chance we could be seeing that 166 after all.

http://www.newyorklawjournal.com/home/i ... 0714001000
Not so fast my friend.

Schools are really really guarded with this stuff. So just because CLS, or others, have not said they are up doesn't mean that they are not. it just means they haven't said anything yet. Or is there more to this article than the short blurb linked that I can't access?

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Re: Guess the Medians Contest 2017

Post by lhanvt13 » Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:21 pm

Brut wrote:yeah 300 at wustl isn't happening
Pretty sure it's true. Thought it was crazy too

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Re: Guess the Medians Contest 2017

Post by DoveBodyWash » Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:26 pm

Brut wrote:yeah 300 at wustl isn't happening
They over admitted and we're offering more scholarship if ppl deferred. It could be 300 if not enough ppl accepted

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Post by rebexness » Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:30 pm

cusenation wrote:
Brut wrote:yeah 300 at wustl isn't happening
They over admitted and we're offering more scholarship if ppl deferred. It could be 300 if not enough ppl accepted
The deferral business is one of the reasons I am so intrigued by what is going on at WUSTL. Medians, class size, app size, etc.

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Re: Guess the Medians Contest 2017

Post by Moneytrees » Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:41 pm

MikeSpivey wrote:
Moneytrees wrote:Looks like NYU is the only top school in NY that saw an increase in apps (8 percent). So they may very well hold onto that 170. Meanwhile, Cornell's apps were slightly down (2 percent), so there's a chance we could be seeing that 166 after all.

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Not so fast my friend.

Schools are really really guarded with this stuff. So just because CLS, or others, have not said they are up doesn't mean that they are not. it just means they haven't said anything yet. Or is there more to this article than the short blurb linked that I can't access?
Mike,
It looks like they checked in with individual schools to get these stats. You are right, maybe things will shake up a bit differently when all the schools officially release their information.

As for NYU and Cornell, my personal opinion is that they will maintain their medians, but for those that predicted a 166 for C, the slight decline in apps is good news.

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Re: Guess the Medians Contest 2017

Post by ms9 » Thu Aug 14, 2014 3:19 pm

lhanvt13 wrote:
Brut wrote:yeah 300 at wustl isn't happening
Pretty sure it's true. Thought it was crazy too
I think you are referring to their torts class registration -- which also includes LLM. I have heard the number if more around 270 (still big but more inline with some past years)

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Re: Guess the Medians Contest 2017

Post by jk148706 » Thu Aug 14, 2014 3:24 pm

WUSTL might go from 189 to near 300???? sheesh

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Post by Lavitz » Thu Aug 14, 2014 3:54 pm

jk148706 wrote:WUSTL might go from 189 to near 300???? sheesh
Wish I knew this before making my prediction. I blame Cuse for concealing this information.

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Re: Guess the Medians Contest 2017

Post by MikeJD » Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:59 pm

Well If WUSTL had a 166 with a 3.69 with only 189 people and giving out FULL rides to a ton of people, it has to make you wonder what GPA/MEDIAN they will have with about 270 people. I predict a HUGE spread between the median and the 25th, sort of like Emory the king of gaming US news rankings with what they do.

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