C/O 2016 median lsat/gpa/class size Forum

[moonman157]

Chicago (not sure if someone else has posted)

"What is your median LSAT score and GPA?

For the class entering in 2013, the median LSAT score was 170 and median GPA was 3.90, although we have a wide range of LSAT scores and GPAs in our class. Please see our 2013-2014 Profile Card for more details."

http://www.law.uchicago.edu/prospectives/jdfaq/about

We may hang on to our ranking after all

[snagglepuss]

just throwing it out there. is it ever possible lsac would exempt the 2 year 3 take rule to increase number of folks to take it?

Doubt it. The problem is getting first-time takers; how many people take 3 or more times? A relatively insignificant number in the scheme of 100,000 LSATs, I imagine.

[cotiger]

Dang...then by my calculations there were 32,868 LSAT's adminstered in Oct (if it decreased by exactly 13%) and 56,865 this year. That means, if there were no decrease in this cycle's Dec and Feb administrations (which it looks like there will be) we are on track for only 106K LSAT's administered this year.

Extrapolated out that means there will only be ~2755 170+ LSAT scores this year and only ~1049 173's or better (99th percentile).

Splitter value going up?

It's actually even better than that. These are the actual applicant numbers for last cycle: http://spiveyconsulting.com/blog/aba-ap ... 213-cycle/

There were only 2,529 applicants with 170+ last year and 534 with 175+.

Plus, that part of the applicant pool continued its trend of decreasing faster than the overall numbers. If everything continues and 170+'s decrease by like 15%... that's 2,150 with 170+ and 450 with 175+. So, so golden.

[The-Specs]

It's actually even better than that. These are the actual applicant numbers for last cycle: http://spiveyconsulting.com/blog/aba-ap ... 213-cycle/

There were only 2,529 applicants with 170+ last year and 534 with 175+.

Plus, that part of the applicant pool continued its trend of decreasing faster than the overall numbers. If everything continues and 170+'s decrease by like 15%... that's 2,150 with 170+ and 450 with 175+. So, so golden.

That is indeed golden. It it were true that there will only be 450 with 175+ and H and Y keep their 75th percentiles then they will take at least 200 of them between them. That is 200 of them will attend, they could very well offer addmission to as many as 300 of them.

[Happy Gilmore]

Chicago (not sure if someone else has posted)

"What is your median LSAT score and GPA?

For the class entering in 2013, the median LSAT score was 170 and median GPA was 3.90, although we have a wide range of LSAT scores and GPAs in our class. Please see our 2013-2014 Profile Card for more details."

http://www.law.uchicago.edu/prospectives/jdfaq/about

Anything planned for your second post?

[A-Modest-Proposal]

Just got Notre Dame's Class Profile from my school's Law School Fair. It's not pretty.

Median GPA: 3.60
Median LSAT: 163
LSAT Range: 160-165
class size: 163

[AlanShore]

Just got Notre Dame's Class Profile from my school's Law School Fair. It's not pretty.

Median GPA: 3.60
Median LSAT: 163
LSAT Range: 160-165

whoa. -3??

[t-14orbust]

Chicago (not sure if someone else has posted)

"What is your median LSAT score and GPA?

For the class entering in 2013, the median LSAT score was 170 and median GPA was 3.90, although we have a wide range of LSAT scores and GPAs in our class. Please see our 2013-2014 Profile Card for more details."

http://www.law.uchicago.edu/prospectives/jdfaq/about

Anything planned for your second post?

I'd just stop while I was ahead

[BruinRegents]

Are there GPA breakdowns anywhere?

Dang...then by my calculations there were 32,868 LSAT's adminstered in Oct (if it decreased by exactly 13%) and 56,865 this year. That means, if there were no decrease in this cycle's Dec and Feb administrations (which it looks like there will be) we are on track for only 106K LSAT's administered this year.

Extrapolated out that means there will only be ~2755 170+ LSAT scores this year and only ~1049 173's or better (99th percentile).

Splitter value going up?

It's actually even better than that. These are the actual applicant numbers for last cycle: http://spiveyconsulting.com/blog/aba-ap ... 213-cycle/

There were only 2,529 applicants with 170+ last year and 534 with 175+.

Plus, that part of the applicant pool continued its trend of decreasing faster than the overall numbers. If everything continues and 170+'s decrease by like 15%... that's 2,150 with 170+ and 450 with 175+. So, so golden.

[Dolphine]

Just got Notre Dame's Class Profile from my school's Law School Fair. It's not pretty.

Median GPA: 3.60
Median LSAT: 163
LSAT Range: 160-165

whoa. -3??

Not surprising, they have a max of 25k a year for scholarships (although theres are exceptions). But some of the schools in their range/higher ranked we're throwing out money like candy.

WHERE IS WUSTL'S NUMBERS?

[longlivetheking]

Just got Notre Dame's Class Profile from my school's Law School Fair. It's not pretty.

Median GPA: 3.60
Median LSAT: 163
LSAT Range: 160-165

whoa. -3??

those drops + this year's further applicant drop = catastrophic for ND

[Nova]

I feel a little better about UMNs -3 now

Misery loves company

[Clearly]

I wish Penn would release median already. Praying to hold.

[ManoftheHour]

Just got Notre Dame's Class Profile from my school's Law School Fair. It's not pretty.

Median GPA: 3.60
Median LSAT: 163
LSAT Range: 160-165
class size: 163

Wow. No wonder I got in last cycle. And I thought it was because of my awesome personal statement.

[BentleyLittle]

Just got Notre Dame's Class Profile from my school's Law School Fair. It's not pretty.

Median GPA: 3.60
Median LSAT: 163
LSAT Range: 160-165
class size: 163

Blood in the water.

[bouleversement]

I wish Penn would release median already. Praying to hold.

You mean altruistically for the benefit of the broader law school community?

[longlivetheking]

is it possible for nyu to have a median of 169 for this coming cycle?

[ScottRiqui]

is it possible for nyu to have a median of 169 for this coming cycle?

Well, it would make them the highest-ranked school so far to have a two-point median drop, and it would also put their median unusually closer to their 25th percentile than their 75th.

[bouleversement]

is it possible for nyu to have a median of 169 for this coming cycle?

Anything is possible.

[BigZuck]

is it possible for nyu to have a median of 169 for this coming cycle?

Anything is possible.

I know I'm just some chump but given the success my 169 had at Duke/NU/UVA and failure at Penn/NYU I'm going to say Penn/NYU did not drop to 169.

[rebexness]

Any word on Texas #s?

[bizzybone1313]

If I was a dean at a T-14, I would drop tuition by about $10K. This would help immensely with maintaining medians.

[Dr. Dre]

Just got Notre Dame's Class Profile from my school's Law School Fair. It's not pretty.

Median GPA: 3.60
Median LSAT: 163
LSAT Range: 160-165
class size: 163

Wow. No wonder I got in last cycle. And I thought it was because of my awesome personal statement.

This made me

[resilience99]

I would of reduced the class sizes resulting in increased medians, during 2000-2007

[ScottRiqui]

If I was a dean at a T-14, I would drop tuition by about $10K. This would help immensely with maintaining medians.

Doesn't being more generous with scholarship money achieve the same effect, without the possible stigma of being perceived as desperate, or as a "bargain basement" law school?