C/O 2017 Median LSAT/GPA/Class Size Forum

[Tiago Splitter]

I can't wait to see Thomas Jefferson's medians...looks like the school is like many of their grads...unable to payback their debt. /http://abovethelaw.com/2014/09/thomas-j ... perations/

Oh dang...I feel sorry for all the TJ grads who may have to explain to future employers why they didn't complete their legal education because their law school defaulted and shut down...

Pretty sure law school debt gets wiped away if your school shuts down before you graduate so current students may be lucking into a miracle.

[swordking90]

I can't wait to see Thomas Jefferson's medians...looks like the school is like many of their grads...unable to payback their debt. /http://abovethelaw.com/2014/09/thomas-j ... perations/

Oh dang...I feel sorry for all the TJ grads who may have to explain to future employers why they didn't complete their legal education because their law school defaulted and shut down...

Pretty sure law school debt gets wiped away if your school shuts down before you graduate so current students may be lucking into a miracle.

Good point. They may be luckier than their predecessors.

[ScottRiqui]

I can't wait to see Thomas Jefferson's medians...looks like the school is like many of their grads...unable to payback their debt. /http://abovethelaw.com/2014/09/thomas-j ... perations/

Oh dang...I feel sorry for all the TJ grads who may have to explain to future employers why they didn't complete their legal education because their law school defaulted and shut down...

Pretty sure law school debt gets wiped away if your school shuts down before you graduate so current students may be lucking into a miracle.

That sounds both reasonable and generous, which makes me wonder if it's true. Is there a mechanism in place for transferring to another school after 2L?

[Rigo]

I can't wait to see Thomas Jefferson's medians...looks like the school is like many of their grads...unable to payback their debt. /http://abovethelaw.com/2014/09/thomas-j ... perations/

Oh dang...I feel sorry for all the TJ grads who may have to explain to future employers why they didn't complete their legal education because their law school defaulted and shut down...

Pretty sure law school debt gets wiped away if your school shuts down before you graduate so current students may be lucking into a miracle.

That sounds both reasonable and generous, which makes me wonder if it's true. Is there a mechanism in place for transferring to another school after 2L?

Believe it.
https://studentaid.ed.gov/repay-loans/f ... sed-school

[ScottRiqui]

Believe it.
https://studentaid.ed.gov/repay-loans/f ... sed-school

Yeah, but it looks like you lose the forgiveness if you finish your JD anywhere else. So it's a good deal if you just want to take a loss on your legal education up to that point and go do something else with your life.

[Rigo]

Believe it.
https://studentaid.ed.gov/repay-loans/f ... sed-school

Yeah, but it looks like you lose the forgiveness if you finish your JD anywhere else. So it's a good deal if you just want to take a loss on your legal education up to that point and go do something else with your life.

I don't think you have to repay the loans you took out for the closed school.

I transferred credits from a closed school and enrolled in a completely different program of study at a new school and completed the new program. Are the previous loans from the closed school dischargeable?

Yes, because the program of study at the new school is completely different than that of the closed school, for which the loans were intended.

I guess it depends on what they mean by "program of study" though.
I could be wrong. I should probably find out before I ED Thomas Jefferson, huh?

[rebexness]

Believe it.
https://studentaid.ed.gov/repay-loans/f ... sed-school

Yeah, but it looks like you lose the forgiveness if you finish your JD anywhere else. So it's a good deal if you just want to take a loss on your legal education up to that point and go do something else with your life.

I don't think you have to repay the loans you took out for the closed school.

I transferred credits from a closed school and enrolled in a completely different program of study at a new school and completed the new program. Are the previous loans from the closed school dischargeable?

Yes, because the program of study at the new school is completely different than that of the closed school, for which the loans were intended.

I could be wrong. I should probably find out before I ED Thomas Jefferson, huh?

[Rigo]

I literally just edited my prior post as you posted that. The correct choice is to take the money and run.

[ScottRiqui]

I literally just edited my prior post as you posted that. The correct choice is to take the money and run.

Agreed - if you find yourself in the position of having your TTT close out from underneath you, zeroing out your loans and doing something (anything) else with your life is probably TCR.

[whitespider]

Golden Gate

146/149/153 (-1/-1/0)
2.74/2.98/3.24 (0/-.13/-.17)

137 Enrolled (-13)

http://law.ggu.edu/admissions/

[Attax]

Dear Golden Gate:

I'm not below your 25th GPA

Sincerely,
Attax

[whitespider]

Mississippi Law

151/155/156 (-1/0/-1)
3.20/3.47/3.66 (+.07/+.01/-.01)

128 Enrolled (+11)

http://law.olemiss.edu/prospective-stud ... file-fact/

[03152016]

gateway to the golden arches

[swordking90]

Mississippi Law

151/155/156 (-1/0/-1)
3.20/3.47/3.66 (+.07/+.01/-.01)

128 Enrolled (+11)

http://law.olemiss.edu/prospective-stud ... file-fact/

Woah pretty solid hold for a TTT...

[Louis1127]

Mississippi Law

151/155/156 (-1/0/-1)
3.20/3.47/3.66 (+.07/+.01/-.01)

128 Enrolled (+11)

http://law.olemiss.edu/prospective-stud ... file-fact/

Woah pretty solid hold for a TTT...

eh, state flagship, highest ranked in a nativist state (by far) and one of the cheapest law schools in America, not that surprising IMO. The place to go if you want to practice law in MS (and have ties, of course).

Mississippi College's medians, on the other hand, is really something to watch.

[should-i-do-it]

Mississippi Law

151/155/156 (-1/0/-1)
3.20/3.47/3.66 (+.07/+.01/-.01)

128 Enrolled (+11)

http://law.olemiss.edu/prospective-stud ... file-fact/

People from 18 other states decided to go here. Wtf is wrong with ppl. I'm sure there's somebody from Cali that wants to work in NYC but would love to go to school in the south for a few years enrolled.

[JCougar]

One down, 150 to go....

[el madrileno]

Mississippi Law

151/155/156 (-1/0/-1)
3.20/3.47/3.66 (+.07/+.01/-.01)

128 Enrolled (+11)

http://law.olemiss.edu/prospective-stud ... file-fact/

People from 18 other states decided to go here. Wtf is wrong with ppl. I'm sure there's somebody from Cali that wants to work in NYC but would love to go to school in the south for a few years enrolled.

I'm sure this happens a lot. I know someone who grew up in New Mexico, went to undergrad in CA, and now goes to Charleston SoL. He is so excited to be a lawyer.

[McAvoy]

Wtf is wrong with ppl. I'm sure there's somebody from Cali that wants to work in NYC but would love to go to school in the south for a few years enrolled.

This is almost exactly what I'm doing. YOLO

[MikeJD]

It's crazy how TJ can be so much in debt with no endowment and no parent school. Who are the idiots who lent all this money??

[Rigo]

Wtf is wrong with ppl. I'm sure there's somebody from Cali that wants to work in NYC but would love to go to school in the south for a few years enrolled.

This is almost exactly what I'm doing. YOLO

Why would anyone choose UT over Mississippi with your goals? You f'd up.

[xSOCALJDx]

Are they running out of high LSAT/GPA people in the state of texas? No numbers from UT.

[Attax]

Are they running out of high LSAT/GPA people in the state of texas? No numbers from UT.

No.... your speculation is unwarranted as UT historically doesn't release early, nor do they really seem to care about any school other than themselves.

[Rigo]

Are they running out of high LSAT/GPA people in the state of texas? No numbers from UT.

No.... your speculation is unwarranted as UT historically doesn't release early, nor do they really seem to care about any school other than themselves.

Doesn't their shrinking class size warrant speculation to some degree that they are "running out" of high LSAT/GPA people?
I'm not saying their medians fell or anything. I just think if there were more applicants with better numbers ready to matriculate, the class size wouldn't have fallen.

Or maybe the 319 class last year was an accident and they didn't mean to enroll that large a class and purposely tried to correct it back down to 2015 levels.

All speculation, but speculation is all we have at this point.

[McAvoy]

Are they running out of high LSAT/GPA people in the state of texas? No numbers from UT.

No.... your speculation is unwarranted as UT historically doesn't release early, nor do they really seem to care about any school other than themselves.

Doesn't their shrinking class size warrant speculation to some degree that they are "running out" of high LSAT/GPA people?
I'm not saying their medians fell or anything. I just think if there were more applicants with better numbers ready to matriculate, the class size wouldn't have fallen.

Or maybe the 319 class last year was an accident and they didn't mean to enroll that large a class and purposely tried to correct it back down to 2015 levels.

All speculation, but speculation is all we have at this point.

It wasn't really a substantial drop though. Doesn't really help you predict what happened.