C/O 2017 Median LSAT/GPA/Class Size Forum

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[Moneytrees]

Anyone know what UCLA's reputation is with scholarships? It's an extremely expensive school but they've managed to still do quite well in medians the past couple of years. Are they know for being more generous than UT/Vandy?

[McAvoy]

Are they know for being more generous than UT/Vandy?

Not in my experience -- they offered me significantly less than both and wouldn't make a counter offer.

They seem to like GPAs more than UT or Vandy though, and I was a mini-splitter.

[Huskies13!]

ASU up:http://www.law.asu.edu/admissions/Admis ... gures.aspx

[MikeJD]

Anyone know what UCLA's reputation is with scholarships? It's an extremely expensive school but they've managed to still do quite well in medians the past couple of years. Are they know for being more generous than UT/Vandy?

They spent a lot of money for high those above their medians but they still enrolled a ton of people at sticker.

[Rigo]

ASU up:http://www.law.asu.edu/admissions/Admis ... gures.aspx

Arizona State
159-162-163
3.37-3.61-3.78

Nice hold. I wonder what their class size is.

[Moneytrees]

I don't think I've ever come across a school like ASU. The undergrad school is poorly ranked and mainly considered to be a party school, but the law school that is ranked highly and on the rise.

[Winston1984]

I don't think I've ever come across a school like ASU. The undergrad school is poorly ranked and mainly considered to be a party school, but the law school that is ranked highly and on the rise.

Eh, I think Bama is probably comparable. I'm sure there are some others too.

[Moneytrees]

I don't think I've ever come across a school like ASU. The undergrad school is poorly ranked and mainly considered to be a party school, but the law school that is ranked highly and on the rise.

Eh, I think Bama is probably comparable. I'm sure there are some others too.

That's a good point. ASU is barely ranked as an undergrad school though.

[Moneytrees]

I don't think I've ever come across a school like ASU. The undergrad school is poorly ranked and mainly considered to be a party school, but the law school that is ranked highly and on the rise.

Eh, I think Bama is probably comparable. I'm sure there are some others too.

Love the username btw.

[Rigo]

I don't think I've ever come across a school like ASU. The undergrad school is poorly ranked and mainly considered to be a party school, but the law school that is ranked highly and on the rise.

Low cost, awesome winter weather, urban environment, new law building being built.
If you don't care about Biglaw, and want to start or continue a life in the Southwest, then it's a decent option.

Objectively, peer* UIUC is probably a smarter decision in regards to employment, but who wants to spend 3 years in snowy Champaign when you could be in Tempe wearing shorts?

ASU is likely an option many Southern Californians consider with a good scholarship. (Not saying they should, if they want to return to CA, but still..)

ETA: By "peer" I mean public state school rankings peer that would likely offer similar scholarships.

[MikeJD]

Emory had a 5.8% decrease in apps so they probably took a hit in numbers.

[Moneytrees]

I don't think I've ever come across a school like ASU. The undergrad school is poorly ranked and mainly considered to be a party school, but the law school that is ranked highly and on the rise.

Low cost, awesome winter weather, urban environment, new law building being built.
If you don't care about Biglaw, and want to start or continue a life in the Southwest, then it's a decent option.

Objectively, peer* UIUC is probably a smarter decision in regards to employment, but who wants to spend 3 years in snowy Champaign when you could be in Tempe wearing shorts?

ASU is likely an option many Southern Californians consider with a good scholarship. (Not saying they should, if they want to return to CA, but still..)

ETA: By "peer" I mean public state school rankings peer that would likely offer similar scholarships.

I agree. Also, both ASU and U of Arizona are pretty generous with scholarships.

[JCougar]

Emory had a 5.8% decrease in apps so they probably took a hit in numbers.

I don't know. Emory has a lot of money to throw around for scholarships. Plus, it's rise to 19 this year could have positively impacted yield (although TLS generally scoffs at small USN moves like this, I'm not sure the general applicant pool does).

[Moneytrees]

Emory had a 5.8% decrease in apps so they probably took a hit in numbers.

I don't know. Emory has a lot of money to throw around for scholarships. Plus, it's rise to 19 this year could have positively impacted yield (although TLS generally scoffs at small USN moves like this, I'm not sure the general applicant pool does).

The reason TLS scoffs at changes in the rankings is because they don't effect employment outcomes. However, I would agree with you that changes could actually impact schools quite a bit. Look at BC, for example. And I'm sure Washington and Lee is going to see a big drop in its medians.

[swordking90]

Anyone else looking forward to Cooley's stats?
Fall 2010 enrollment was 1500+; last fall 582 enrolled; I wonder how much further the numbers will fall this year.

[Rigo]

Emory had a 5.8% decrease in apps so they probably took a hit in numbers.

I don't know. Emory has a lot of money to throw around for scholarships. Plus, it's rise to 19 this year could have positively impacted yield (although TLS generally scoffs at small USN moves like this, I'm not sure the general applicant pool does).

The reason TLS scoffs at changes in the rankings is because they don't effect employment outcomes. However, I would agree with you that changes could actually impact schools quite a bit. Look at BC, for example. And I'm sure Washington and Lee is going to see a big drop in its medians.

W&L surprisingly held.

Edit: Oh wait. Nevermind. Just checked the spreadsheet. Didn't someone report that they held awhile back? Or was that proven to be false?

[Moneytrees]

Previous reporting on W&L was mistaken, I believe.

[WichitaShocker]

Previous reporting on W&L was mistaken, I believe.

This may be true, the class profile page is down.

http://law.wlu.edu/admissions/page.asp?pageid=1474

[Rigo]

Previous reporting on W&L was mistaken, I believe.

Ah okay. It seemed too good (for them) to be true.

[misanthrope]

There any official source on GULC's new medians? Couldn't find anything on the website.

[Rigo]

There any official source on GULC's new medians? Couldn't find anything on the website.

It was conveyed by the faculty at an on campus event...

[misanthrope]

Cool. Thanks

[byronmullens]

I can't wait to see Thomas Jefferson's medians...looks like the school is like many of their grads...unable to payback their debt. /http://abovethelaw.com/2014/09/thomas-j ... perations/

[swordking90]

I can't wait to see Thomas Jefferson's medians...looks like the school is like many of their grads...unable to payback their debt. /http://abovethelaw.com/2014/09/thomas-j ... perations/

Oh dang...I feel sorry for all the TJ grads who may have to explain to future employers why they didn't complete their legal education because their law school defaulted and shut down...