2018 USNWR Rankings Forum

[HYPSM]

YHS
CCN
MVP
DNBC

That has a nice ring to it, doesn't it?

[Desert Fox]

Recruiter at my big law told me this when I bumped into her at coffee.

[Rigo]

interesting that UCLA is now about halfway b/w Berkeley and USC.
Berkeley 12
UCLA 15
USC 19

Makes sense when you look at BL+FC placement.

[BigZuck]

Neither shocked nor surprised at UT joining the pantheon

WELL DESERVED WE DID IT

To be clear, UT has not joined anything. UT is still just outside the meaningful distinction. It is now the T13.

Post officially reported

Keep it up and see what happens

[Baby Gaga]

YHS
CCN
MVP
DNBC

That has a nice ring to it, doesn't it?

Also, I feel bad for Georgetown (Loljk)

Yeah, so much more streamlined. And the MVP and DNBC acronyms are so catchy

[toplaw01]

It has been foreseen that W&L improved their employment + bar passing rate significantly, but increasing 12 spots is unprecedented !

[Colonel_funkadunk]

what's the procedure moving forward for the mass number of grads who have the objective statement on their resume as "I went to a t14, i deserve big law job."?

[Fiddlesticks]

Neither shocked nor surprised at UT joining the pantheon

WELL DESERVED WE DID IT

To be clear, UT has not joined anything. UT is still just outside the meaningful distinction. It is now the T13.

Post officially reported

Keep it up and see what happens

Forever a bridesmaid, never the bride!

[Npret]

How did Washington and Lee move up 12 spots? How did UConn move up 11?

Are they giving fee waivers to everyone to boost applicants or giving gift cards like Alabama?

[Fiddlesticks]

what's the procedure moving forward for the mass number of grads who have the objective statement on their resume as "I went to a t14, i deserve big law job."?

I think you just need to pay attention and anytime you hear someone say T14 or Top 14 -- you need stop them and remind them that things have changed and it is now the T13. We can make this necessary change one person at a time.

[lawboundsomeday]

interesting that UCLA is now about halfway b/w Berkeley and USC.
Berkeley 12
UCLA 15
USC 19

Makes sense when you look at BL+FC placement.

Yes, true. But don't Berkeley and UCLA both have much bigger contingents of public interest-focused students? So does that make USC's #s even a little lower than they appear, corrected for the proportion of the class seeking BL? Or am I missing something?

(I guess same would be true of Georgetown as of Berkeley and UCLA, right? I know there's lots of haters, but presumably a bunch of Gtown grads want gov't or public interest?)

[dabigchina]

CLS @ #5?

Confirmed for TTT in decline.

[overkillhsc]

How did Washington and Lee move up 12 spots? How did UConn move up 11?

Are they giving fee waivers to everyone to boost applicants or giving gift cards like Alabama?

Don't think W&L has actually charged to apply in years (including before their ratings drop in the first place out of the 20s.) So I don't think that would be an input change.

[BigZuck]

Neither shocked nor surprised at UT joining the pantheon

WELL DESERVED WE DID IT

To be clear, UT has not joined anything. UT is still just outside the meaningful distinction. It is now the T13.

Post officially reported

Keep it up and see what happens

Forever a bridesmaid, never the bride!

I'm going to use up every last ounce of goodwill I've most assuredly built up with the mods over the last 5 years and over 10K posts to ensure this is the last post you ever make on these fora.

[BigZuck]

J/K rankings threads are so fun teehee!

[Rigo]

interesting that UCLA is now about halfway b/w Berkeley and USC.
Berkeley 12
UCLA 15
USC 19

Makes sense when you look at BL+FC placement.

Yes, true. But don't Berkeley and UCLA both have much bigger contingents of public interest-focused students? So does that make USC's #s even a little lower than they appear, corrected for the proportion of the class seeking BL? Or am I missing something?

(I guess same would be true of Georgetown as of Berkeley and UCLA, right? I know there's lots of haters, but presumably a bunch of Gtown grads want gov't or public interest?)

I'd say you're generally right but it's all speculation and reading employment data tea leaves. Were all the PI/govt people eligible for biglaw jobs? Probably not. Were some? Probably. It's hard to pinpoint just how much "some" is. The higher up in the rankings, the more I give credence to self-selection out of Biglaw.

[Fiddlesticks]

J/K rankings threads are so fun teehee!

I knew you were kidding, but for the record, it's super easy to just make a new account...

[votebuilder1]

Food for thought: My understanding is T14 refers to the only 14 schools that have ever cracked the top 10.

If that's true, by definition, Texas can be ranked higher than GTown but it wouldn't be a T14.

If anything, 2018 rankings should show us that outcomes matter more than T-whatever.

[chicagoburger]

OMG, I withdrew from W&L not long ago...

[Rigo]

OMG, I withdrew from W&L not long ago...

Send them an edible arrangement and beg for forgiveness.

[Fiddlesticks]

OMG, I withdrew from W&L not long ago...

Send them an edible arrangement and beg for forgiveness.

Sherry's Berries have a special going on.

[ddoomm]

Great to see Dickinson +21!

[etramak]

Is Harvard and Columbia going (-1) bad news for humble 171 LSAT scorers (i.e, will they aggressively admit high LSAT scorers even more than they have been, especially Harvard in order to get back up to 173)?

[Desert Fox]

Food for thought: My understanding is T14 refers to the only 14 schools that have ever cracked the top 10.

If that's true, by definition, Texas can be ranked higher than GTown but it wouldn't be a T14.

If anything, 2018 rankings should show us that outcomes matter more than T-whatever.

No that is fake news.

[Nebby]

Praise be to the seer in the white blouse and navy skirt.