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Advise/Opinion on Personal Statement

Post by arexniba » Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:40 pm

Hello,

I would like help from the TLS members to help review my statement. I got in touch with a professor that went to Berkeley for his undergrad and JD. He's been teaching English for 11 years and holds a PHD. I left his comments in paranthesis (I was going to highlight, but stupid scroll moves all over the place when I highlight the selection). Let me know what you guys think.

Thanks for reading. :)

I remember waking up terrified to screams outside our apartment in Brooklyn. It was a sweltering summer night in 1990 and I peered through our window to see what was going on. “Give me your purse,” yelled a man holding a woman at gunpoint. Though I was only six years old, I remember being astonished that I did not hear any police sirens for the rest of the night: we were living in a virtually abandoned neighborhood. . My parents worked full-time jobs in Manhattan and commuted by train. Because of their demanding schedules, I would sometimes be left with my cousins, who were not optimal role models, and even exposed me to their violent encounters with peers.

Fearing the effect this unsavory environment would have on me, my parents moved our family out of Brooklyn. They looked to the progressive schools and safe neighborhoods of California to provide a better life for me. Nevertheless, the transition to California was, to say the least, challenging.

Millbrae, California offered a dramatically different setting then I had been used to. Our Brooklyn neighborhood was a densely -populated urban environment that was home to many Hispanics, and in which I could speak Spanish. Yet, only around 10% of the population in Millbrae was Hispanic. I felt frightened and alone because many of my peers socialized exclusively with members of their own ethnic groups. While most of their parents had the resources to pay for private tutors and enroll their children in extracurricular programs that would help them excel in school, my parents had the wisdom to help and encourage me to study so I could reach my fullest potential. The hard work and dedication paid off as I repeatedly made my school’s honor roll, and was accepted to the Junior Statesman of America (JSA) program to study at Stanford University for the summer.

I soon also became the first member of my family to attend college, the Community College of San Mateo. Unfortunately, I had virtually no guidance regarding what degree to pursue or how to transfer to a four-year university. My counselor advised me to take fewer classes and get an Associate’s Degree so I would have a better chance of obtaining a job. But I wanted more than a job, and I began to conduct my own research and ask professors and peers how to transfer to a university. I soon managed to attain all the necessary credits and transferred to San Francisco State University (“SFSU”). [I don’t think you’ll submit the resume to the law schools, but if you do, you might want to add brief reference to CCSM since you note it above—i.e., it could seem odd to leave it out there if you address it here]

One thing I did arrive knowing when I began classes at SFSU was that I wanted to pursue a career in law. My most compelling experience in high school involved serving as lead defense attorney in the Mock Trial club. I found working with real lawyers and studying actual holdings compelling, and the experience gave me a sense not only of the intellectual challenges attorneys face, but the mechanics and dynamics of developing, trying and prosecuting a case. In response to my enthusiasm, my counselor advised me to take courses in Political Science because they provide a “stepping stone” to law school. Of all my academic extracurricular activities, however—which included becoming the Vice President of the Pre-Law Society and a member of the Political Science Student Association— my most valuable experience was a yearlong judicial externship at the San Francisco Superior Court.

As an extern, I was assigned to shadow Judge Charles F. Haines in the “Settlements Court.” [You should briefly explain what this means in terms of criminal law] Hollywood consistently portrays public defenders as skilled practitioners who address a single criminal case at a time and invariably vindicate their clients by presenting impassioned opening and closing arguments. However, the real life public defenders whom I encountered worked exceedingly long hours while managing dozens of cases. I was inspired by the public defenders’ persistent dedication to advocate on behalf of their client’s in multiple contexts. They did not live glamorously or earn lucrative salaries, but they cared deeply about representing their clients. [I’d add a sentence about the memos you researched and wrote, as that is critical and relevant experience for law school: you could say something like, “I had the unusual opportunity to begin researching and writing background memos for my judge regarding [X issues or X kind of issues], which allowed me to see the importance of [Y].” The problem with the above is it focuses entirely on what you observed, and you want to give more detail regarding what you did and what you learned]

Managing part-time work and full-time classes, I soon acquired my Bachelor of Arts degree in Political Science. I worked many temporary jobs while I paid my loans, but my time away from focusing on law only reaffirmed my interest in obtaining a law degree. My desire to attend law school has also been fueled by my share of misfortune. The police have pulled me over dozens of times as part of a practice of racial profiling. By the beginning of 2004, I had been pulled over seventeen times. I once asked an officer why I was being pulled over so often, and he stated, “If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it must be one.” His response was profoundly offensive, and I hired an attorney to help defend me. She was a young, Latina who practiced criminal law and discovered that the police officer had retroactively reported my car as “stolen” to provide him with probable cause for having arbitrarily pulled me over. [I think readers will expect a follow up here: did you win the case, etc? If you didn’t, you’d want to offer something about what the experience taught you about the law, e.g., the importance of researching and using facts]

Furthermore, I recently sued the city of San Francisco successfully. In January 2011, I was the victim of a crime—five intoxicated individuals ambushed me in a public parking garage. The garage had insufficient security measures and only one surveillance camera monitoring all the parking levels. I suffered a fractured nose, lacerations to my face, and the possibility of losing vision in my left eye. Although these individuals were liable for their actions, I felt it was also the responsibility of the garage to provide better security for their patrons. My objective was not only to seek monetary remedy, but to generate a monetary and legal incentive that would help prevent such incidents from happening to others. In response to my interest in the law, my attorney allowed me to help research relevant cases and come up with my own evidence and arguments to help my case. Fortunately, after two years, the city decided to offer me a settlement and increased the garage’s security by hiring more guards and installing more surveillance cameras. [I think you want a brief transition/conclusion here: what did this experience teach you, or how did it inform your interest in a particular aspect of law, etc?]

Aldous Huxley opined that “Experience is not what happens to you; it’s what you do with what happens to you.” I believe I have found ways to turn the misfortunes in my life into opportunities. I have worked hard and diligently to fuel my desire to become a better person and learn from my past events. I will bring to your law school my personal experiences, and with a law degree, the passion and motivation to help my community face social injustices when they see no other solution. [I’d avoid generalizations about your character, passion, etc. as anyone can make such claims: a good litmus test is, can anyone say this (and if so, it’s better to avoid that language). It’s always better to use concrete examples to make your point (e.g., volunteering at a legal clinic might show your dedication to your community or your passion—it’s the same general principle as “show, don’t tell” in writing). I’d conclude the paragraph/essay with something more specific about the kind of law you want to practice—see below. You should end with a gesture toward your specific law career or career trajectory)
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Re: Advise/Opinion on Personal Statement

Post by kirbyb » Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:36 pm

I agree with the prof's last note. Your PS right now is your meandering life story: no focus. Just pick one (maybe two) events that influenced why you want to study law and write about it well.
Millbrae, California offered a dramatically different setting I had been used to a densely -populated urban environment that was home to many Hispanics, and in which I could speak Spanish, but only around 10% of the population in Millbrae was Hispanic.
This sentence is very confusing (I think because you're missing a period and it's awk) and I'd take out the entire early part of your life anyway.

Take out the part about CC and transferring. They know this from your application. Also, you shouldn't blame the school for not telling you what to do.

The extern part is good because it shows you know what to expect and you still want to be a lawyer.

I would get rid of the paragraphs about racial profiling and suing the city. It doesn't add much to your PS except that you're a victim. If you want to talk about it, include more details about how you handled yourself, what you did, how it affected you, etc. More personal, less spitting out facts.

The last paragraph needs to be redone or scrapped completely. Why include a random quote from any famous person? It's better to show, not tell.

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Re: Advise/Opinion on Personal Statement

Post by arexniba » Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:37 pm

kirbyb wrote:I agree with the prof's last note. Your PS right now is your meandering life story: no focus. Just pick one (maybe two) events that influenced why you want to study law and write about it well.
Millbrae, California offered a dramatically different setting I had been used to a densely -populated urban environment that was home to many Hispanics, and in which I could speak Spanish, but only around 10% of the population in Millbrae was Hispanic.
This sentence is very confusing (I think because you're missing a period and it's awk) and I'd take out the entire early part of your life anyway.

Take out the part about CC and transferring. They know this from your application. Also, you shouldn't blame the school for not telling you what to do.

The extern part is good because it shows you know what to expect and you still want to be a lawyer.

I would get rid of the paragraphs about racial profiling and suing the city. It doesn't add much to your PS except that you're a victim. If you want to talk about it, include more details about how you handled yourself, what you did, how it affected you, etc. More personal, less spitting out facts.

The last paragraph needs to be redone or scrapped completely. Why include a random quote from any famous person? It's better to show, not tell.

The part you mentioned I re-edited. I saw that part too, and realized he may not have edited it. Nonetheless, I did fix it.
As for the conclusion, he omitted the part (I just added) in red. It is "general" because this is the section I want to specify the school I send the PS to.

As for your comment saying my statement is meandingering, I definitely wasn't rambling. I chose to write on my life of how the law has affected me positively & negatively. Thus, the anecdotes of racial profiling and my transition from CC to a University is something I feel is vital to talk about.

Additionally, from all the research I have done this is one issue I get annoyed/perplexed with. People say "take that off b/c it's not important..." However, from all the statements I have read that have been accepted from the top tiers to the bottom ones all have different stories. The point of the PS is to describe who we are. What we are about. What makes us unique. As well as intertwining that with why we choose law as an endeavor.
Therefore, all these subjects I haven't written about make up who I am. I grew up in a rough neighborhood. Came to a drastically different state. Was surrouned by white collars whereas my parents are blue collars. Did not have direction to attending a college, but figured it out on my own. And although I was bettering my life, I was was being racially profiled by the same justice system that has helped me.
This is what my story is.

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Post by Gooner91 » Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:43 pm

Are you applying to Berkeley? This is really long.

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Post by CanadianWolf » Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:12 pm

" we were living in a virtually abandoned neighborhood." " Our Brooklyn neighborhood was a densley-populated urban environment."

Which statement is correct ?

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Re: Advise/Opinion on Personal Statement

Post by arexniba » Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:26 pm

Gooner91 wrote:Are you applying to Berkeley? This is really long.
I recently went to a workshop there and fell in love with the school's philosophy. It's definitely a dream school. I asked some of the admissions staff how many pages is ideal, and they didn't have a guideline to how many pages it should be. :?:

As it stands I have a little over 1,000 words (not including what I should add). And 2 pages is ~ 800 words. My font is 11...does this matter?
I ask because some of the sample statements I read have very small font and not double-spaced.
CanadianWolf wrote:" we were living in a virtually abandoned neighborhood." " Our Brooklyn neighborhood was a densley-populated urban environment."

Which statement is correct ?
Good catch! :D

I think what the professor was trying to portray was that at the moment the crime occured, the neighborhood seemed "abandoned."
And the other statement is true, too. We did live in a neighborhood primarily of Hispanics.

How should I make this flow to not confuse the reader/admissions?

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Re: Advise/Opinion on Personal Statement

Post by JazzieShizzle » Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:39 pm

arexniba wrote:
As it stands I have a little over 1,000 words (not including what I should add). And 2 pages is ~ 800 words. My font is 11...does this matter?
I ask because some of the sample statements I read have very small font and not double-spaced.
Make sure you check each school's requirements. Some won't say much of anything, but others will be very specific. Most schools say 2-3 pages/12pt font/double spaced, although I'm pretty sure 11pt is usually ok too. I'd aim for no more than 2.5 pages/12pt font/double spaced. That way you can downsize as needed, but it will be acceptable for the majority of schools.

Also, don't base formatting on sample statements. They are often condensed with small font and single spacing just for the sake of saving space.

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Re: Advise/Opinion on Personal Statement

Post by kirbyb » Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:47 pm

arexniba wrote:
kirbyb wrote:I agree with the prof's last note. Your PS right now is your meandering life story: no focus. Just pick one (maybe two) events that influenced why you want to study law and write about it well.
Millbrae, California offered a dramatically different setting I had been used to a densely -populated urban environment that was home to many Hispanics, and in which I could speak Spanish, but only around 10% of the population in Millbrae was Hispanic.
This sentence is very confusing (I think because you're missing a period and it's awk) and I'd take out the entire early part of your life anyway.

Take out the part about CC and transferring. They know this from your application. Also, you shouldn't blame the school for not telling you what to do.

The extern part is good because it shows you know what to expect and you still want to be a lawyer.

I would get rid of the paragraphs about racial profiling and suing the city. It doesn't add much to your PS except that you're a victim. If you want to talk about it, include more details about how you handled yourself, what you did, how it affected you, etc. More personal, less spitting out facts.

The last paragraph needs to be redone or scrapped completely. Why include a random quote from any famous person? It's better to show, not tell.

The part you mentioned I re-edited. I saw that part too, and realized he may not have edited it. Nonetheless, I did fix it.
As for the conclusion, he omitted the part (I just added) in red. It is "general" because this is the section I want to specify the school I send the PS to.

As for your comment saying my statement is meandingering, I definitely wasn't rambling. I chose to write on my life of how the law has affected me positively & negatively. Thus, the anecdotes of racial profiling and my transition from CC to a University is something I feel is vital to talk about.

Additionally, from all the research I have done this is one issue I get annoyed/perplexed with. People say "take that off b/c it's not important..." However, from all the statements I have read that have been accepted from the top tiers to the bottom ones all have different stories. The point of the PS is to describe who we are. What we are about. What makes us unique. As well as intertwining that with why we choose law as an endeavor.
Therefore, all these subjects I haven't written about make up who I am. I grew up in a rough neighborhood. Came to a drastically different state. Was surrouned by white collars whereas my parents are blue collars. Did not have direction to attending a college, but figured it out on my own. And although I was bettering my life, I was was being racially profiled by the same justice system that has helped me.
This is what my story is.
You asked for advice and opinions. Mine is: pick one significant event instead of talking about your life story. If you can go in depth about one aspect of who you are, it lets the reader feel like they actually know you. Skimming over a bunch of events that happened over your life gives the adcomms an overall view but not much understanding. Case in point: you summed up your PS in a few sentences that can be applied to a lot of people.
The early stuff isn't important because you are a different person now. That's why it is often suggested to write about more recent events.

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Post by Gooner91 » Tue Feb 25, 2014 1:31 pm

JazzieShizzle wrote:
arexniba wrote:
As it stands I have a little over 1,000 words (not including what I should add). And 2 pages is ~ 800 words. My font is 11...does this matter?
I ask because some of the sample statements I read have very small font and not double-spaced.
Make sure you check each school's requirements. Some won't say much of anything, but others will be very specific. Most schools say 2-3 pages/12pt font/double spaced, although I'm pretty sure 11pt is usually ok too. I'd aim for no more than 2.5 pages/12pt font/double spaced. That way you can downsize as needed, but it will be acceptable for the majority of schools.

Also, don't base formatting on sample statements. They are often condensed with small font and single spacing just for the sake of saving space.
Make sure you check the instructions for each school when you are filling out the applications. This is probably too long for some schools. I agree with above, 2.5 pages/double spaced/12 point is probably good for the majority of schools.

I think Berkeley allows/encourages longer PS than most other schools, maybe up to four pages (not sure though), so even double spaced at 12 point yours is probably acceptable for them in length. But for other schools you may need to cut it down.

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Re: Advise/Opinion on Personal Statement

Post by arexniba » Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:26 pm

kirbyb wrote: You asked for advice and opinions. Mine is: pick one significant event instead of talking about your life story. If you can go in depth about one aspect of who you are, it lets the reader feel like they actually know you. Skimming over a bunch of events that happened over your life gives the adcomms an overall view but not much understanding. Case in point: you summed up your PS in a few sentences that can be applied to a lot of people.
The early stuff isn't important because you are a different person now. That's why it is often suggested to write about more recent events.
I didn't get offended, but you said some key words, "...often suggested..."
Lol, every piece of information out there are all suggestions and recommendations. What worked for someone to get into a top tier school may not work the same way for another person using those same tactics.

My feeling is that at the end of the day, these schools are looking for someone "unique." I believe if you do what the general consensus recommends, then that takes away a person's individuality.
Thank you again for your advice.
Gooner91 wrote:
JazzieShizzle wrote:
arexniba wrote:
As it stands I have a little over 1,000 words (not including what I should add). And 2 pages is ~ 800 words. My font is 11...does this matter?
I ask because some of the sample statements I read have very small font and not double-spaced.
Make sure you check each school's requirements. Some won't say much of anything, but others will be very specific. Most schools say 2-3 pages/12pt font/double spaced, although I'm pretty sure 11pt is usually ok too. I'd aim for no more than 2.5 pages/12pt font/double spaced. That way you can downsize as needed, but it will be acceptable for the majority of schools.

Also, don't base formatting on sample statements. They are often condensed with small font and single spacing just for the sake of saving space.
Make sure you check the instructions for each school when you are filling out the applications. This is probably too long for some schools. I agree with above, 2.5 pages/double spaced/12 point is probably good for the majority of schools.

I think Berkeley allows/encourages longer PS than most other schools, maybe up to four pages (not sure though), so even double spaced at 12 point yours is probably acceptable for them in length. But for other schools you may need to cut it down.
Thanks so much. I will definitely create another copy and see how it looks with this font.

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