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Re: Becoming a Senator

Post by jarofsoup » Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:40 pm

I think you could tone it down a little bit. Like I really want a career in public service or something. Senate makes you seem a bit immature.

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Re: Becoming a Senator

Post by HRomanus » Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:42 pm

Anonymous User wrote:good to know.. was hoping it would show that I am ambitious. apparently will make it seem like I'm an idiot then. Time to get back to the drawing board and come up with a new idea..
There's a difference between ambition and lunacy, and there's a difference between ambition and expressed ambition. If you really want to be involved in politics, hold onto that dream and work towards it. But the personal statement is a marketing document for your admission to a professional school devoted to producing practicing lawyers, so don't write about it in a personal statement.

I think the best avenue is take whatever inspires you to want to be a Senator (hopefully not the prestige) and show how it inspires you to want to go into law. As an above poster said, public service is an option.

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Re: Becoming a Senator

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:45 pm

guinness1547 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Not black, and still don't understand what spooks means.

Got it.. Guess I just didn't understand what it had to do with anything

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Re: Becoming a Senator

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:47 pm

HRomanus wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:good to know.. was hoping it would show that I am ambitious. apparently will make it seem like I'm an idiot then. Time to get back to the drawing board and come up with a new idea..
There's a difference between ambition and lunacy, and there's a difference between ambition and expressed ambition. If you really want to be involved in politics, hold onto that dream and work towards it. But the personal statement is a marketing document for your admission to a professional school devoted to producing practicing lawyers, so don't write about it in a personal statement.

I think the best avenue is take whatever inspires you to want to be a Senator (hopefully not the prestige) and show how it inspires you to want to go into law. As an above poster said, public service is an option.

Thank you for your honest feedback and help. I am not interested in the prestige but in making an actual difference.. But that's such a cliche in PErsonal statements..

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Re: Becoming a Senator

Post by HRomanus » Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:50 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
HRomanus wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:good to know.. was hoping it would show that I am ambitious. apparently will make it seem like I'm an idiot then. Time to get back to the drawing board and come up with a new idea..
There's a difference between ambition and lunacy, and there's a difference between ambition and expressed ambition. If you really want to be involved in politics, hold onto that dream and work towards it. But the personal statement is a marketing document for your admission to a professional school devoted to producing practicing lawyers, so don't write about it in a personal statement.

I think the best avenue is take whatever inspires you to want to be a Senator (hopefully not the prestige) and show how it inspires you to want to go into law. As an above poster said, public service is an option.

Thank you for your honest feedback and help. I am not interested in the prestige but in making an actual difference.. But that's such a cliche in PErsonal statements..
And you probably know (or should know) that far more legislating happens in the state and local levels. That's part of the reason I don't like the federal system, but it does mean that if you really want to make a difference you can have a huge impact on the local level while being a productive attorney. Focus on your interest, not your career goals, and I think you'll have some good success. And don't reference your fourth grade field trip.

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Re: Becoming a Senator

Post by thegirlwhowaited » Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:59 pm

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Re: Becoming a Senator

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:06 pm

thegirlwhowaited wrote:join military

lol I wouldn't even make it through basic training.. I can barely do one proper push up.

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Re: Becoming a Senator

Post by thegirlwhowaited » Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:11 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
thegirlwhowaited wrote:join military

lol I wouldn't even make it through basic training.. I can barely do one proper push up.
fix yourself first?

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Re: Becoming a Senator

Post by Cicero76 » Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:11 pm

I wrote my PS about wanting to become a senator and I got two BigSENATE callbacks at OCI. Turned both down though bc they were flyover states so meh.

For real though, just write about how you want to work in the government because you have a passion for problem solving or something. It'll be fine.

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Re: Becoming a Senator

Post by thegirlwhowaited » Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:13 pm

Cicero76 wrote:I wrote my PS about wanting to become a senator and I got two BigSENATE callbacks at OCI. Turned both down though bc they were flyover states so meh.

For real though, just write about how you want to work in the government because you have a passion for problem solving or something. It'll be fine.
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Re: Becoming a Senator

Post by Ron Don Volante » Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:17 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Basically since the first time I visited the state capitol in fourth grade I've aspired to work for the U.S. with aspirations of becoming a senator. 57 of the 100 senators today have law degrees. I am thinking about writing my P.S. about my dream of becoming a senator and how in order to achieve this, law school is the next step.

Bad idea? Good idea?
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Re: Becoming a Senator

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:19 pm

Cicero76 wrote:I wrote my PS about wanting to become a senator and I got two BigSENATE callbacks at OCI. Turned both down though bc they were flyover states so meh.

For real though, just write about how you want to work in the government because you have a passion for problem solving or something. It'll be fine.

flaming or serious? I don't even know anymore.

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Re: Becoming a Senator

Post by HRomanus » Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:19 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Cicero76 wrote:I wrote my PS about wanting to become a senator and I got two BigSENATE callbacks at OCI. Turned both down though bc they were flyover states so meh.

For real though, just write about how you want to work in the government because you have a passion for problem solving or something. It'll be fine.

flaming or serious? I don't even know anymore.
They're joking with you. It's just an absurd premise to people on TLS.

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Re: Becoming a Senator

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:21 pm

HRomanus wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Cicero76 wrote:I wrote my PS about wanting to become a senator and I got two BigSENATE callbacks at OCI. Turned both down though bc they were flyover states so meh.

For real though, just write about how you want to work in the government because you have a passion for problem solving or something. It'll be fine.

flaming or serious? I don't even know anymore.
They're joking with you. It's just an absurd premise to people on TLS.

Thanks for being the only helpful person on this thread.. seriously though.

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Re: Becoming a Senator

Post by Ron Don Volante » Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:40 pm

I'm so sad that you actually wanted sincere advice about this.

Can you please tell us more about yourself?

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Re: Becoming a Senator

Post by A. Nony Mouse » Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:43 pm

hereisonehand wrote:& plz share your PS outlining your strategy
Ron Don Volante wrote:I'm so sad that you actually wanted sincere advice about this.

Can you please tell us more about yourself?
Stop trolling the PS forum by trying to get people to give you information you're going to mock them for.

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Re: Becoming a Senator

Post by Ron Don Volante » Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:46 pm

I'm sincerely curious what background an undergraduate student has that would make them reasonably think they could/should be a senator to the degree that they would consider communicating it on a grad school application.

If that curiosity is not legit, my bad.

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Re: Becoming a Senator

Post by A. Nony Mouse » Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:54 pm

Ron Don Volante wrote:I'm sincerely curious what background an undergraduate student has that would make them reasonably think they could/should be a senator to the degree that they would consider communicating it on a grad school application.

If that curiosity is not legit, my bad.
have you never met anyone who wanted to be a senator? I think half the policsci majors at my undergrad had that plan. I'm not saying it's the way to go in a PS, just saying it's not a weird goal.

and there's been a rash of unhelpfulness about PSes so it's just a warning.

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Re: Becoming a Senator

Post by Ron Don Volante » Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:58 pm

A. Nony Mouse wrote:
Ron Don Volante wrote:I'm sincerely curious what background an undergraduate student has that would make them reasonably think they could/should be a senator to the degree that they would consider communicating it on a grad school application.

If that curiosity is not legit, my bad.
have you never met anyone who wanted to be a senator? I think half the policsci majors at my undergrad had that plan. I'm not saying it's the way to go in a PS, just saying it's not a weird goal.

and there's been a rash of unhelpfulness about PSes so it's just a warning.
I'm sure I've met people who want to be a senator, but I can't say I've ever heard anyone actually say something like that out loud.

So to try and be helpful to OP: NO, I do not think that would be a good idea.
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Re: Becoming a Senator

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Nov 06, 2014 12:00 am

A. Nony Mouse wrote:
Ron Don Volante wrote:I'm sincerely curious what background an undergraduate student has that would make them reasonably think they could/should be a senator to the degree that they would consider communicating it on a grad school application.

If that curiosity is not legit, my bad.
have you never met anyone who wanted to be a senator? I think half the policsci majors at my undergrad had that plan. I'm not saying it's the way to go in a PS, just saying it's not a weird goal.

and there's been a rash of unhelpfulness about PSes so it's just a warning.

I've noticed.. To the point where I'm pretty over TLS because most people are on here just to mock and be asses rather than actual help. Usually end up getting off the website feeling pretty crappy about myself so what's the point?

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Re: Becoming a Senator

Post by A. Nony Mouse » Thu Nov 06, 2014 12:13 am

Anonymous User wrote:I've noticed.. To the point where I'm pretty over TLS because most people are on here just to mock and be asses rather than actual help. Usually end up getting off the website feeling pretty crappy about myself so what's the point?
TBF, this place kind of specializes in tough love, and isn't especially kind, but generally offers reasonable advice about what schools to consider and retaking the LSAT and such. The thing is that the crowd here is generally risk-adverse, and concerned (reasonably enough) with maximizing employment outcomes/minimizing debt/figuring out the appropriate balance of debt and employment prospects. Given the cost of a law degree and the poor chances of getting a job that will cover the cost of the degree from many law schools, people here want to discourage users from making choices they might regret. They're not especially diplomatic, but it's well meant. It may not be what everyone who posts here wants to hear, and it may not apply to absolutely everyone, but it's often a useful corrective for the assumptions people show up here with. In the end, though, it's up to the individual to make their own choices about what risks they're willing to take, regardless of what anyone here has to say.

(This is distinct from people encouraging someone to post their PS to be mocked, of course.)

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Re: Becoming a Senator

Post by ManoftheHour » Thu Nov 06, 2014 12:17 am

Anonymous User wrote: I've noticed.. To the point where I'm pretty over TLS because most people are on here just to mock and be asses rather than actual help. Usually end up getting off the website feeling pretty crappy about myself so what's the point?
To be fair, the point is you're not going to write a crappy PS now. That alone was worth your time. Good luck in your endeavors!

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Re: Becoming a Senator

Post by R. Jeeves » Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:04 am

ManoftheHour wrote:
Anonymous User wrote: I've noticed.. To the point where I'm pretty over TLS because most people are on here just to mock and be asses rather than actual help. Usually end up getting off the website feeling pretty crappy about myself so what's the point?
To be fair, the point is you're not going to write a crappy PS now. That alone was worth your time. Good luck in your endeavors!
yeah seriously man. I came to TLS with a pretty crappy plan and people ridiculed it... which made me realize that my plan was ridiculous, and I'm thankful for that. The people on this site have guided me through the law school admissions process since day one, and I've ended up with an ideal outcome this cycle and it's only November.

The fact that people didn't take your question seriously doesn't mean that their responses were not helpful - it should indicate to you that an admissions officer who reads your PS about wanting to go to law school in order to become a Senator will not take it seriously.

Also, if you are planning on going to law school ONLY because you want to become a Senator, then this is not a good idea. You're spending 200,000K+ for a 1 in a million shot. In order for law school to be a good choice for you to make, you should, at minimum, be willing to work as an attorney of some sort in case the whole Senate thing doesn't work out. Going from law school graduate to high-power politician involves a lot of steps, and you should be okay with the fact that the peak of your career will most likely be realized a few steps short of your dream and will probably involve doing the type of work that a significant percentage of law school graduates are doing now.

Again, it is not ridiculous that you want to become a Senator - but it would be ridiculous if you chose to attend law school with only that goal in mind. You seem like an ambitious guy, and I hope you make it big one day. Good luck.

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Re: Becoming a Senator

Post by ManoftheHour » Fri Nov 07, 2014 5:28 am

TLS told me that Notre Dame at sticker or Loyola LA with top 45% stip was retarded. I retook, and never looked back. Pretty happy with where I am right now.

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Re: Becoming a Senator

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Nov 07, 2014 1:34 pm

ManoftheHour wrote:TLS told me that Notre Dame at sticker or Loyola LA with top 45% stip was retarded. I retook, and never looked back. Pretty happy with where I am right now.

Where are you right now if you don't mind me asking..

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