CLEO 2010 Forum

[jockinjay-z]

I don't think CLEO is hurting for worthy applicants this year. Good idea to save your money and the space for someone who is enthusiastic to be there.

True. Me, i got admitted through early admit status. but since i don't have the money, i'm most likely to withdraw. it sucks, too, because it would certainly help me!

I applied too this weekend but def don't know if I can afford it if accepted?! Especially considering that me and some for my fellow college friend seniors are trying back pack in Europe at the end of May before I start law school!!

[ogman05]

On a side note. Those who have been accepted to cleo, do you have any acceptances as of yet? I know cleo can help you get into schools which was a big portion of why I wanted to participate however I was accepted ED to a law school before the cleo acceptance so no help there. Is anyone in my shoes and still going? I feel like at this point, also spending 2k I'm not so sure if the benefits outweigh the costs anymore. If it helped me into my school then without a doubt. Anyone at a T14 accepted to go and still gungho? Otherwise I am ready to give up my seat for someone more enthused than myself. I have a kid I'd rather spend the summer with than spend 6 weeks studying to begin 3 years of the same. Any thoughts?

[tgt007]

Just got the acceptance letter from CLEO in the mail today. Feeling pretty good!

[ATOIsp07]

On a side note. Those who have been accepted to cleo, do you have any acceptances as of yet? I know cleo can help you get into schools which was a big portion of why I wanted to participate however I was accepted ED to a law school before the cleo acceptance so no help there. Is anyone in my shoes and still going? I feel like at this point, also spending 2k I'm not so sure if the benefits outweigh the costs anymore. If it helped me into my school then without a doubt. Anyone at a T14 accepted to go and still gungho? Otherwise I am ready to give up my seat for someone more enthused than myself. I have a kid I'd rather spend the summer with than spend 6 weeks studying to begin 3 years of the same. Any thoughts?

before my CLEO acceptance, I was already accepted in American (WCL) so it was good to know that a school would take me without having to do the program. I honestly wouldn't do CLEO with the expectation of getting placed into a better school. from what i know and the people who did it last year, only the top 5 got bumped up into better schools than they came in with. those who got into better schools had already came into CLEO with conditional acceptances/waitlist offers from school contingent with specific academic performance in the summer program (ie-top 10% of the students); that's top 4 out of 40 kids and pretty difficult. CLEO's more of a law school prep program. it does help place students who have yet to be accepted anywhere into schools, though.....most of the time, at least.

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[Jay-Electronica]

i think they already know if im not mistaken. Cleo contacts the schools you apply to right?

[ATOIsp07]

Yea...once you tell them which schools you're applying to.

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[Jay-Electronica]

Interesting. What if you didn't tell CLEO about every school to which you applied? Would they still know from LSAC?

No, I think it just lessens your chances of being nominated by a school for the CLEO progam.

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[Trelawny]

Trelawny I believe I clearly stated that I need the financial aid (their scholarships, which is what I was told CLEO provides, hence me still asking questions about it because I just heard about it these last few weeks) for school but do not need the 6 week mock-1L program. Not that I don't need or want CLEO's help on a whole. Why would I even say that? I wouldn't be anywhere near this thread if that was the case.

Check the posts I made above...I was asking whether the 6 week program can be separated from the scholarship for law school, or if people have to go through the 6 week program in order to get the scholarships. That was going to determine whether I apply or not. I have my essay, SAR, and transcripts ready to go for them. But you're right, if I can't do the 6 weeks and i find out it's mandatory, i WON'T apply, because I'm not a big fan of wasting my time. My essay for them can be used elsewhere so I wouldn't be mad about that.

Did not mean to bring attitude so I am sorry for how that other post came across, I was just trying show that people who don't have the money for the program likely aren't the type to be able to use the options you gave, even moreso in this economy where there are families living on part time jobs or whatnot.

Too, even if I had the money for the program fee, I don't have the childcare to just go off for 6 weeks. I didn't want to have to spell that out (because it's something specific to me, not to the general need-based population) but it's not even just about money for the program. It's one thing to make permanent arrangements for a kid(s) to live somewhere else completely while I do law school (which is possible, but not necessarily what I'm planning on doing)...quite impossible for me to guarantee 24 hour childcare for 6 weeks in the summer.

You did come off in attack mode. Glad you realized it. Yes the 6 weeks is mandatory. I wanted to see if I could take the June lsat over and miss one day and was told no by a former Cleo recipient who had planned to do the same and over the phone by a rep.

As for childcare, that is something alot of people can relate too. Whether directly or indirectly. I have a cousin who is not applying because she has a family and work.I think they should not have it for 6 weeks but 4. That is too dragging.

[Trelawny]

i'm still waiting to hear back from CLEO. applied in oct. 09. don't know why its taking so long

We are in the same boat. I applied November 26.

[amichig]

So I know this isn't the place, but I sent in my application for CLEO's AIE seminar. I'm super excited and am hoping I'll be accepted. Any idea on how competitive these wkend seminars are?

[ogman05]

On a side note. Those who have been accepted to cleo, do you have any acceptances as of yet? I know cleo can help you get into schools which was a big portion of why I wanted to participate however I was accepted ED to a law school before the cleo acceptance so no help there. Is anyone in my shoes and still going? I feel like at this point, also spending 2k I'm not so sure if the benefits outweigh the costs anymore. If it helped me into my school then without a doubt. Anyone at a T14 accepted to go and still gungho? Otherwise I am ready to give up my seat for someone more enthused than myself. I have a kid I'd rather spend the summer with than spend 6 weeks studying to begin 3 years of the same. Any thoughts?

before my CLEO acceptance, I was already accepted in American (WCL) so it was good to know that a school would take me without having to do the program. I honestly wouldn't do CLEO with the expectation of getting placed into a better school. from what i know and the people who did it last year, only the top 5 got bumped up into better schools than they came in with. those who got into better schools had already came into CLEO with conditional acceptances/waitlist offers from school contingent with specific academic performance in the summer program (ie-top 10% of the students); that's top 4 out of 40 kids and pretty difficult. CLEO's more of a law school prep program. it does help place students who have yet to be accepted anywhere into schools, though.....most of the time, at least.

Well I wouldnt be anymore. I have already been accepted to a school ED so no chance in me changing schools even if I wanted to. I am pretty happy with that decision however as well. I went in knowing that they might make that WL an acceptance but I already have it. I also wanted it because it was a great program and thoguht it would be good to get on track of briefing cases before classes and grading actually began.

[jremy]

I got a phone call from Mrs. Williams today and had a brief conversation with her about my application, LSAT, etc. Is this an indicator of that she will accept those she personally talks to on the phone? Does anybody mind posting their stats, the ones who have been accepted to CLEO already this year?

[imacpa]

On a side note. Those who have been accepted to cleo, do you have any acceptances as of yet? I know cleo can help you get into schools which was a big portion of why I wanted to participate however I was accepted ED to a law school before the cleo acceptance so no help there. Is anyone in my shoes and still going? I feel like at this point, also spending 2k I'm not so sure if the benefits outweigh the costs anymore. If it helped me into my school then without a doubt. Anyone at a T14 accepted to go and still gungho? Otherwise I am ready to give up my seat for someone more enthused than myself. I have a kid I'd rather spend the summer with than spend 6 weeks studying to begin 3 years of the same. Any thoughts?

before my CLEO acceptance, I was already accepted in American (WCL) so it was good to know that a school would take me without having to do the program. I honestly wouldn't do CLEO with the expectation of getting placed into a better school. from what i know and the people who did it last year, only the top 5 got bumped up into better schools than they came in with. those who got into better schools had already came into CLEO with conditional acceptances/waitlist offers from school contingent with specific academic performance in the summer program (ie-top 10% of the students); that's top 4 out of 40 kids and pretty difficult. CLEO's more of a law school prep program. it does help place students who have yet to be accepted anywhere into schools, though.....most of the time, at least.

Let me correct you on something....

For those that dont know me, I attended last year's summer institute. Yes, it is true that CLEO can assist in helping you to get into a "better" school but I wouldn't necessary count on it if you're trying to get into a highly ranked school. I think the highest ranked school that interviewed us was Iowa and Illinois. Depending on the school, you may have to place within the top 10 to 15% in order to be considered. However, there are some schools that will also take top 50% but most of those schools are likely outside of T14 but you can still get into a solid school if you arrive at CLEO without an acceptance. There are some schools that may even consider even if you fall outside the top 50% as long as you perform competently in CLEO.

My suggestion to all....if you remain on the waitlist of a school that you really like to attend by the time you start CLEO I would suggest letting the school know that you are attending CLEO. They may consider your performance and thus offer you an acceptance. But if you're coming to CLEO expecting to get into a highly ranked school then you may be expected to place within the top 10% which is difficult given the caliber of CLEO students that are selected.

Bottomline.....learn from the CLEO experience. It will give you an advantage going into the 1L year.

Best wishes to all and congrats!!!!

[biobuslaw]

On a side note. Those who have been accepted to cleo, do you have any acceptances as of yet? I know cleo can help you get into schools which was a big portion of why I wanted to participate however I was accepted ED to a law school before the cleo acceptance so no help there. Is anyone in my shoes and still going? I feel like at this point, also spending 2k I'm not so sure if the benefits outweigh the costs anymore. If it helped me into my school then without a doubt. Anyone at a T14 accepted to go and still gungho? Otherwise I am ready to give up my seat for someone more enthused than myself. I have a kid I'd rather spend the summer with than spend 6 weeks studying to begin 3 years of the same. Any thoughts?

before my CLEO acceptance, I was already accepted in American (WCL) so it was good to know that a school would take me without having to do the program. I honestly wouldn't do CLEO with the expectation of getting placed into a better school. from what i know and the people who did it last year, only the top 5 got bumped up into better schools than they came in with. those who got into better schools had already came into CLEO with conditional acceptances/waitlist offers from school contingent with specific academic performance in the summer program (ie-top 10% of the students); that's top 4 out of 40 kids and pretty difficult. CLEO's more of a law school prep program. it does help place students who have yet to be accepted anywhere into schools, though.....most of the time, at least.

Let me correct you on something....

For those that dont know me, I attended last year's summer institute. Yes, it is true that CLEO can assist in helping you to get into a "better" school but I wouldn't necessary count on it if you're trying to get into a highly ranked school. I think the highest ranked school that interviewed us was Iowa and Illinois. Depending on the school, you may have to place within the top 10 to 15% in order to be considered. However, there are some schools that will also take top 50% but most of those schools are likely outside of T14 but you can still get into a solid school if you arrive at CLEO without an acceptance. There are some schools that may even consider even if you fall outside the top 50% as long as you perform competently in CLEO.

My suggestion to all....if you remain on the waitlist of a school that you really like to attend by the time you start CLEO I would suggest letting the school know that you are attending CLEO. They may consider your performance and thus offer you an acceptance. But if you're coming to CLEO expecting to get into a highly ranked school then you may be expected to place within the top 10% which is difficult given the caliber of CLEO students that are selected.

Bottomline.....learn from the CLEO experience. It will give you an advantage going into the 1L year.

Best wishes to all and congrats!!!!

Can you talk a little about the housing arrangements? Did you stay in a dorm? An apartment? Will we have roommates? Will we have access to school resources (gym, internet, etc.)?

[imacpa]

On a side note. Those who have been accepted to cleo, do you have any acceptances as of yet? I know cleo can help you get into schools which was a big portion of why I wanted to participate however I was accepted ED to a law school before the cleo acceptance so no help there. Is anyone in my shoes and still going? I feel like at this point, also spending 2k I'm not so sure if the benefits outweigh the costs anymore. If it helped me into my school then without a doubt. Anyone at a T14 accepted to go and still gungho? Otherwise I am ready to give up my seat for someone more enthused than myself. I have a kid I'd rather spend the summer with than spend 6 weeks studying to begin 3 years of the same. Any thoughts?

before my CLEO acceptance, I was already accepted in American (WCL) so it was good to know that a school would take me without having to do the program. I honestly wouldn't do CLEO with the expectation of getting placed into a better school. from what i know and the people who did it last year, only the top 5 got bumped up into better schools than they came in with. those who got into better schools had already came into CLEO with conditional acceptances/waitlist offers from school contingent with specific academic performance in the summer program (ie-top 10% of the students); that's top 4 out of 40 kids and pretty difficult. CLEO's more of a law school prep program. it does help place students who have yet to be accepted anywhere into schools, though.....most of the time, at least.

Let me correct you on something....

For those that dont know me, I attended last year's summer institute. Yes, it is true that CLEO can assist in helping you to get into a "better" school but I wouldn't necessary count on it if you're trying to get into a highly ranked school. I think the highest ranked school that interviewed us was Iowa and Illinois. Depending on the school, you may have to place within the top 10 to 15% in order to be considered. However, there are some schools that will also take top 50% but most of those schools are likely outside of T14 but you can still get into a solid school if you arrive at CLEO without an acceptance. There are some schools that may even consider even if you fall outside the top 50% as long as you perform competently in CLEO.

My suggestion to all....if you remain on the waitlist of a school that you really like to attend by the time you start CLEO I would suggest letting the school know that you are attending CLEO. They may consider your performance and thus offer you an acceptance. But if you're coming to CLEO expecting to get into a highly ranked school then you may be expected to place within the top 10% which is difficult given the caliber of CLEO students that are selected.

Bottomline.....learn from the CLEO experience. It will give you an advantage going into the 1L year.

Best wishes to all and congrats!!!!

Can you talk a little about the housing arrangements? Did you stay in a dorm? An apartment? Will we have roommates? Will we have access to school resources (gym, internet, etc.)?

We all stayed in the dorms on campus and we were each assigned roommates. It was two to a room (same sex together). Our hosting school did give us access to the gym and the cafeteria as well as access to the law library (24 hour access). However, we didn't have access to the internet from our dorms (due to reasons beyond CLEO) but we had internet from pretty much anywhere on campus. I'm sure whichever hosting school you attend will have all of this available to you and probably more depending on the hosting school's policy.

[Trelawny]

Best wishes to all and congrats!!!![/quote]
Can you talk a little about the housing arrangements? Did you stay in a dorm? An apartment? Will we have roommates? Will we have access to school resources (gym, internet, etc.)?[/quote]

We all stayed in the dorms on campus and we were each assigned roommates. It was two to a room (same sex together). Our hosting school did give us access to the gym and the cafeteria as well as access to the law library (24 hour access). However, we didn't have access to the internet from our dorms (due to reasons beyond CLEO) but we had internet from pretty much anywhere on campus. I'm sure whichever hosting school you attend will have all of this available to you and probably more depending on the hosting school's policy.[/quote]

I'm glad someone asked about the living arrangements. I don't like to share room./bathroom. IS it possible to request single rooms?

[imacpa]

Best wishes to all and congrats!!!!

Can you talk a little about the housing arrangements? Did you stay in a dorm? An apartment? Will we have roommates? Will we have access to school resources (gym, internet, etc.)?[/quote]

We all stayed in the dorms on campus and we were each assigned roommates. It was two to a room (same sex together). Our hosting school did give us access to the gym and the cafeteria as well as access to the law library (24 hour access). However, we didn't have access to the internet from our dorms (due to reasons beyond CLEO) but we had internet from pretty much anywhere on campus. I'm sure whichever hosting school you attend will have all of this available to you and probably more depending on the hosting school's policy.[/quote]

I'm glad someone asked about the living arrangements. I don't like to share room./bathroom. IS it possible to request single rooms?[/quote]

I don't believe it's possible to request a room for yourself. At least that was true for me and the others that have attended the summer institute last year.

[KellyD09]

Not sure if this is the correct thread to post or not... but I have a question:

I am applying for the weekend AIE program and the application says that a copy of my LSDAS/Law School Report is required to be submitted. How do I submit this to CLEO, or do they just want a copy of my academic sumamry and lsat score?

[ATOIsp07]

So I know this isn't the place, but I sent in my application for CLEO's AIE seminar. I'm super excited and am hoping I'll be accepted. Any idea on how competitive these wkend seminars are?

they're fairly competitive...however they've taken up to 250 kids in recent summers, in total. i think it's gonna be great....all the networking you can handle, the benefits and the price tag: $0

[tgt007]

Considering the networking opportunities and the the price tag, AIE is a must do if it's in a location near you. I think the CLEO Summer Institute is top dog though. If you get accepted and can afford to pay the $2K price tag, along with taking an unpaid 6-week haitus, you should do it. It's a big sacrifice but I see it as worth it... future benefits in mind.

I get the feeling that those who complete the summer program are a member of distinguished group. Of all those who apply to it only 80 are selected each year.

[imacpa]

Not sure if this is the correct thread to post or not... but I have a question:

I am applying for the weekend AIE program and the application says that a copy of my LSDAS/Law School Report is required to be submitted. How do I submit this to CLEO, or do they just want a copy of my academic sumamry and lsat score?

I know when I applied for CLEO last year they asked me to pay for a LSDAS report so that they could access my scores, LORs, etc. I think this might be true for people who apply for AIE. Therefore, you may have to request a report from law services.

[bptbabegyrl]

I also attended the six-week program last summer and am now at Howard Law. If anyone has any specific questions about the program or Howard University School of Law send me a PM and I will be glad to answer them