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Are you? That is, how do you actually identify?

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Re: I look white

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race is a SOCIAL CONSTRUCT

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Desert Fox wrote:Protip, you are mexican now bro.
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Re: I look white

Post by A. Nony Mouse » Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:19 pm

Htexasguy wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:Are you? That is, how do you actually identify?
If you looked at me you would think I am white, but my last name is from Portugal.
Actually most Hispanics are white. I'm not asking how others see you, I'm asking how you yourself actually identify.

(But if the Hispanic name is Portuguese, I'm pretty sure it doesn't "count" as URM; check out the "am I ---?" thread stickied on the front page of this forum.)

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Re: I look white

Post by FairchildFLT » Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:37 pm

While you're at it just tell them you're also black...

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Re: I look white

Post by rnoodles » Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:09 pm

chimp wrote:race is a SOCIAL CONSTRUCT
the only race is the UBERMENSCH, super driver of man impervious to flex price spikes, thus spake zarathustra

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Re: I look white

Post by seashell.economy » Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:49 pm

Htexasguy wrote:
chimp wrote:race is a SOCIAL CONSTRUCT
While this is true, it also can be the difference between getting into a law school with a 155 vs 170 LSAT score.
Really? Link?

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Re: I look white

Post by 071816 » Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:22 pm

Htexasguy wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:Are you? That is, how do you actually identify?
If you looked at me you would think I am white, but my last name is from Portugal.
Well are you Brazilian or are you Portuguese? Where are your parents from? Lots of Hispanics not only look white but they are white. Doesn't mean a damn thing. People from Latin America come in all different colors.

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Re: I look white

Post by kevgogators » Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:35 pm

If you aren't Mexican or Puerto Rican you won't be getting a URM boost regardless.

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Re: I look white

Post by MKC » Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:37 pm

seashell.economy wrote:
Htexasguy wrote:
chimp wrote:race is a SOCIAL CONSTRUCT
While this is true, it also can be the difference between getting into a law school with a 155 vs 170 LSAT score.
Really? Link?
Somebody quantified it a while back. I think it was the MyLSN.info guy. IIRC, compared to being a white person, being Mexican was worth 4 points, Puerto Rican or African American was worth 6 points, and Native American was worth 8 points.

Shockingly, the analysis got pulled after the shitstorm ensued.

ETA: Random Hispanic = No points.

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Re: I look white

Post by seashell.economy » Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:05 pm

MarkinKansasCity wrote:
seashell.economy wrote:
Htexasguy wrote:
chimp wrote:race is a SOCIAL CONSTRUCT
While this is true, it also can be the difference between getting into a law school with a 155 vs 170 LSAT score.
Really? Link?
Somebody quantified it a while back. I think it was the MyLSN.info guy. IIRC, compared to being a white person, being Mexican was worth 4 points, Puerto Rican or African American was worth 6 points, and Native American was worth 8 points.

Shockingly, the analysis got pulled after the shitstorm ensued.

ETA: Random Hispanic = No points.
Ok, so not as dramatic of a point difference as stated.

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Re: I look white

Post by kevgogators » Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:11 pm

seashell.economy wrote:
MarkinKansasCity wrote:
seashell.economy wrote:
Htexasguy wrote:
chimp wrote:race is a SOCIAL CONSTRUCT
While this is true, it also can be the difference between getting into a law school with a 155 vs 170 LSAT score.
Really? Link?
Somebody quantified it a while back. I think it was the MyLSN.info guy. IIRC, compared to being a white person, being Mexican was worth 4 points, Puerto Rican or African American was worth 6 points, and Native American was worth 8 points.

Shockingly, the analysis got pulled after the shitstorm ensued.

ETA: Random Hispanic = No points.
Ok, so not as dramatic of a point difference as stated.
And honestly, I've heard of that before but in reality it seems that Puerto Ricans receive much less of a boost than African Americans do. There's unfortunately a lot of conflicting info on this subject.

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Re: I look white

Post by Robb » Tue Sep 29, 2015 2:37 pm

MarkinKansasCity wrote:
seashell.economy wrote:
Htexasguy wrote:
chimp wrote:race is a SOCIAL CONSTRUCT
While this is true, it also can be the difference between getting into a law school with a 155 vs 170 LSAT score.
Really? Link?
Somebody quantified it a while back. I think it was the MyLSN.info guy. IIRC, compared to being a white person, being Mexican was worth 4 points, Puerto Rican or African American was worth 6 points, and Native American was worth 8 points.

Shockingly, the analysis got pulled after the shitstorm ensued.

ETA: Random Hispanic = No points.
You can still find it here if you want: https://web.archive.org/web/20130522135 ... _boost.php

Elterrible78 did it too but I think he had a very different methodology. He used some sort of fancy math (something regression), whereas all I did was calculate the average difference between the LSAT score at which, for the same GPA, the groups first passed the 50% admitted threshold. IIRC the numbers didn't come out too different, though.

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Re: I look white

Post by silenttimer » Tue Sep 29, 2015 2:47 pm

If you have to ask whether you're "URM," you likely are not. :roll:

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