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REVIEWS of the CLEO Six-Week Pre-Law Summer Institute?!

Post by mydasmarie » Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:44 pm

Greetings.

Reviews? Below is the description...

"The CLEO Six-Week Pre-Law Summer Institute is designed to "demystify" the law school experience. Preparation builds self-assurance and participants enter law school more confident in their ability to succeed.

A full-time program, held on two law school campuses during June and July, the Institute is both rigorous and demanding.

The Institute focuses on legal methods and techniques that help to develop students’ abstract thinking, analysis, and synthesizing skills. The Institute has an impressive track record of success. Nearly 9,000 diverse and/or economically disadvantaged students have been oriented to law school through the Institutes since 1968. More than 90% of the students who attend the institute enter law school in the fall."

Here is the webpage: http://www.cleoscholars.com/index.cfm?f ... 2&nodeID=2
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Re: REVIEWS of the CLEO Six-Week Pre-Law Summer Institute?!

Post by objctnyrhnr » Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:58 pm

mydasmarie wrote:Greetings.

Reviews?

Here is the webpage: http://www.cleoscholars.com/index.cfm?f ... 2&nodeID=2

For some background,
- in at RU newark, full tuition (not including dorming, but in state so might commute)
- in at Temple, 90k but will likely withdraw
- in at washington and lee, with a small 15k scholarshi[
- pending: Duke, Emory, Upenn, Fordham, BC
what the hell is this thing

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Re: REVIEWS of the CLEO Six-Week Pre-Law Summer Institute?!

Post by mydasmarie » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:01 am

for the above: The CLEO Six-Week Pre-Law Summer Institute is designed to "demystify" the law school experience. Preparation builds self-assurance and participants enter law school more confident in their ability to succeed.

A full-time program, held on two law school campuses during June and July, the Institute is both rigorous and demanding.

The Institute focuses on legal methods and techniques that help to develop students’ abstract thinking, analysis, and synthesizing skills. The Institute has an impressive track record of success. Nearly 9,000 diverse and/or economically disadvantaged students have been oriented to law school through the Institutes since 1968. More than 90% of the students who attend the institute enter law school in the fall.

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Re: REVIEWS of the CLEO Six-Week Pre-Law Summer Institute?!

Post by objctnyrhnr » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:08 am

mydasmarie wrote:for the above: The CLEO Six-Week Pre-Law Summer Institute is designed to "demystify" the law school experience. Preparation builds self-assurance and participants enter law school more confident in their ability to succeed.

A full-time program, held on two law school campuses during June and July, the Institute is both rigorous and demanding.

The Institute focuses on legal methods and techniques that help to develop students’ abstract thinking, analysis, and synthesizing skills. The Institute has an impressive track record of success. Nearly 9,000 diverse and/or economically disadvantaged students have been oriented to law school through the Institutes since 1968. More than 90% of the students who attend the institute enter law school in the fall.
so is the goal to ensure good grades?

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Re: REVIEWS of the CLEO Six-Week Pre-Law Summer Institute?!

Post by chuckbass » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:12 am

This is bullshit

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Re: REVIEWS of the CLEO Six-Week Pre-Law Summer Institute?!

Post by mydasmarie » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:18 am

scottidsntknow wrote:This is bullshit

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you've heard bad things? I am just wondering if this is "worth" the 2,000 it costs...the ABA set this up and has been a long running program but I am still hesitant about the price tag...

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Re: REVIEWS of the CLEO Six-Week Pre-Law Summer Institute?!

Post by chuckbass » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:21 am

mydasmarie wrote:
scottidsntknow wrote:This is bullshit

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you've heard bad things? I am just wondering if this is "worth" the 2,000 it costs...the ABA set this up and has been a long running program but I am still hesitant about the price tag...
I haven't heard anything, and neither would anyone on this site. It is not worth it if it was free. Enjoy your summer before law school. None of these people will be your professors and therefore none of these people will be grading any real exam you take, therefore this program is pointless. They're clearly preying on insecure 0Ls.

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Re: REVIEWS of the CLEO Six-Week Pre-Law Summer Institute?!

Post by mydasmarie » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:21 am

objctnyrhnr wrote:
mydasmarie wrote:for the above: The CLEO Six-Week Pre-Law Summer Institute is designed to "demystify" the law school experience. Preparation builds self-assurance and participants enter law school more confident in their ability to succeed.

A full-time program, held on two law school campuses during June and July, the Institute is both rigorous and demanding.

The Institute focuses on legal methods and techniques that help to develop students’ abstract thinking, analysis, and synthesizing skills. The Institute has an impressive track record of success. Nearly 9,000 diverse and/or economically disadvantaged students have been oriented to law school through the Institutes since 1968. More than 90% of the students who attend the institute enter law school in the fall.
so is the goal to ensure good grades?
It is designed as a jump start program for 1L students. They also help place students into schools they have been waitlisted at (if they are member schools). In previous years they had scholarship/grants available to attendees but I am not sure if they will give these out again. it occurs on two campuses w/ about 40 students each so a total of 80 students participate.

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Re: REVIEWS of the CLEO Six-Week Pre-Law Summer Institute?!

Post by mydasmarie » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:26 am

scottidsntknow wrote:
mydasmarie wrote:
scottidsntknow wrote:This is bullshit

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you've heard bad things? I am just wondering if this is "worth" the 2,000 it costs...the ABA set this up and has been a long running program but I am still hesitant about the price tag...
I haven't heard anything, and neither would anyone on this site. It is not worth it if it was free. Enjoy your summer before law school. None of these people will be your professors and therefore none of these people will be grading any real exam you take, therefore this program is pointless. They're clearly preying on insecure 0Ls.
Alright, thank you for the advice.

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Re: REVIEWS of the CLEO Six-Week Pre-Law Summer Institute?!

Post by chuckbass » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:28 am

I know I sound harsh, but I'm trying to be blunt and honest with you. I don't think any active poster on this site would tell you otherwise.

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Re: REVIEWS of the CLEO Six-Week Pre-Law Summer Institute?!

Post by mydasmarie » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:33 am

scottidsntknow wrote:I know I sound harsh, but I'm trying to be blunt and honest with you. I don't think any active poster on this site would tell you otherwise.
Blunt is what I look for at TLS :wink:

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Re: REVIEWS of the CLEO Six-Week Pre-Law Summer Institute?!

Post by A. Nony Mouse » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:41 am

scottidsntknow wrote:I haven't heard anything, and neither would anyone on this site. It is not worth it if it was free. Enjoy your summer before law school. None of these people will be your professors and therefore none of these people will be grading any real exam you take, therefore this program is pointless. They're clearly preying on insecure 0Ls.
I've heard of it; it's a thing. It's directed particularly at minority/low-income/disadvantaged students. I think in a previous era (i.e. when people got jobs easily and schools weren't so predatory), it wasn't an especially bad thing. I think it would probably be sort of helpful for a student body that hasn't come from especially strong academic background (intellectually or culturally) who needs some help acclimating to the demands of a professional school. (The webpage talks about being aimed at students with marginal LSAT/grades and helping them get into law schools.)

Now that the legal market has collapsed, and awareness of the predatory nature of the schools to which many of the students are likely to end up, I think it's not remotely worth the money. It's not really aimed at students who are going to schools that are understood here to be good returns on your investment (look at the list of partner/supporting schools: http://cleodivercitynetwork.org/index.c ... 7&nodeID=1). There's no point in spending money to get the opportunity to pay full price at most of these schools.

(I get the need to diversify the legal profession but I don't think a program like this really does that very effectively, if it's just enabling minority/low-income/disadvantaged students to go to crap law schools. A free program training such students to improve their LSAT scores would be much more effective.)

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Re: REVIEWS of the CLEO Six-Week Pre-Law Summer Institute?!

Post by yossarian » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:43 am

scottidsntknow wrote:I know I sound harsh, but I'm trying to be blunt and honest with you. I don't think any active poster on this site would tell you otherwise.
Caveat: I think they can be valuable for a few reasons.

1) In my state, the program is free & it provides about $20k in scholarships to each of the 30 selected to attend.
2) They help to set up research positions for 1L summers. Not ideal work, but since almost all 1L SA gigs are gone in my state, it's a good fall back.

I agree with scottie in that I doubt it really prepares students for law school. At least, if so, only marginally. But yeah. I wouldn't pay for it.

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Re: REVIEWS of the CLEO Six-Week Pre-Law Summer Institute?!

Post by AAJD2B » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:54 am

A. Nony Mouse wrote:[(I get the need to diversify the legal profession but I don't think a program like this really does that very effectively, if it's just enabling minority/low-income/disadvantaged students to go to crap law schools. A free program training such students to improve their LSAT scores would be much more effective.)

There were minorities who participated in CLEO's Summer Institute who deposited at HYSCCN and other T14s. I believe last year had a Stanford Law student.

CLEO serves as a valuable purpose and mentorship opportunity.

OP have you applied and were you admitted?

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Re: REVIEWS of the CLEO Six-Week Pre-Law Summer Institute?!

Post by itachiuchiha » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:55 am

Apply online by February 15, 2014, for the Six-Week Pre-Law Summer Institute
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Re: REVIEWS of the CLEO Six-Week Pre-Law Summer Institute?!

Post by AAJD2B » Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:03 am

mydasmarie wrote:Greetings.

Reviews?

Check out last year's thread of TLS members who partook in the program. I think they are in a better position to assess the pros and cons of the program. Some are still active on TLS:

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... hilit=CLEO

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Re: REVIEWS of the CLEO Six-Week Pre-Law Summer Institute?!

Post by A. Nony Mouse » Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:46 am

AAJD2B wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:[(I get the need to diversify the legal profession but I don't think a program like this really does that very effectively, if it's just enabling minority/low-income/disadvantaged students to go to crap law schools. A free program training such students to improve their LSAT scores would be much more effective.)

There were minorities who participated in CLEO's Summer Institute who deposited at HYSCCN and other T14s. I believe last year had a Stanford Law student.

CLEO serves as a valuable purpose and mentorship opportunity.

OP have you applied and were you admitted?
Should have added that my impression could be completely wrong. :oops: :D

That said, the thread below doesn't contain any substantive information/reviews of the program itself - you'd probably need to bump it/PM people to get more info.

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Re: REVIEWS of the CLEO Six-Week Pre-Law Summer Institute?!

Post by MacMahon » Tue Mar 11, 2014 2:12 pm

Anyone here plan on attending Cleo this summer at ole miss?

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Re: REVIEWS of the CLEO Six-Week Pre-Law Summer Institute?!

Post by yossarian » Tue Mar 11, 2014 2:19 pm

Had my interview for ICLEO in IN yesterday and think I botched it. Anyone else looking at that?

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Post by Metaplay » Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:12 am

Mississippi... Not exactly a premier destination.

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Re: REVIEWS of the CLEO Six-Week Pre-Law Summer Institute?!

Post by ms2dai » Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:50 am

Just did this program. If anyone needs feedback PM me.

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Re: REVIEWS of the CLEO Six-Week Pre-Law Summer Institute?!

Post by dreamerchic19 » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:17 am

I found it helpful after attending

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