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genesweeney
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Realistic Expectations for Admission
53 year old PHD with significant professional experience, a 3.66 GPA in Graduate School, 2.95 in Undergraduate School...taking LSAT next week...realistically what do I need to minimally score to get into a school like Indiana University - Bloomington or Notre Dame?
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californiauser
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Re: Realistic Expectations for Admission
Are you a URM?
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Pumpkin_Pie
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Re: Realistic Expectations for Admission
Why do you want to go to law school?
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20130312
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Re: Realistic Expectations for Admission
Lawschoolnumbers.com is all that matters. UGPA and LSAT.
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ScottRiqui
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Re: Realistic Expectations for Admission
So you don't think that several decades of work experience and multiple advanced degrees could allow someone to outperform their numbers? For someone like the OP, I don't know that LSN is the best indicator, because the pool of applicants with similar backgrounds is so small (I know, I know - "special snowflake syndrome").
Also, I think a significant number of seriously non-traditional applicants might self-select away from the top schools in favor of lower-ranked regional schools if they're already established in an area (own a home, working spouse, kids in high school, etcetera), so it would be hard to tell if the admissions folks thought more highly of them compared to K-JD types with similar numbers. In other words, they can't tell if they would have outperformed their numbers because they selected a school with lower medians for other reasons.
Also, I think a significant number of seriously non-traditional applicants might self-select away from the top schools in favor of lower-ranked regional schools if they're already established in an area (own a home, working spouse, kids in high school, etcetera), so it would be hard to tell if the admissions folks thought more highly of them compared to K-JD types with similar numbers. In other words, they can't tell if they would have outperformed their numbers because they selected a school with lower medians for other reasons.
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Justin Genious
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Re: Realistic Expectations for Admission
Shoot for a 170 and apply to NW.
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Nova
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Re: Realistic Expectations for Admission
Assuming you arent a URM,
median.
median.
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CanadianWolf
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Re: Realistic Expectations for Admission
Difficult to predict since few with your extensive professional & educational background apply to law school.
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mohuohu
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Re: Realistic Expectations for Admission
genesweeney wrote:53 year old PHD with significant professional experience, a 3.66 GPA in Graduate School, 2.95 in Undergraduate School...taking LSAT next week...realistically what do I need to minimally score to get into a school like Indiana University - Bloomington or Notre Dame?
As an IUB student, I would guess that they'd be happy to take you on even if you were below our median. The school likes to have older folk around, because they add a lot to the experience and we don't have too many of them.
I don't think your undergrad GPA would be relevant at all.
Disclaimer: I have no source or justification for my thoughts on this matter beyond informal conversations with admissions folks.
