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Southern University Law Center

Post by thenupes » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:52 am

What's you guy's opinion on Southern University Law Center? Does anyone attend, or know anyone at this institution? How would you rank it amongst the other Historically Black Law Schools?

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Re: Southern University Law Center

Post by alexonfyre » Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:26 pm

thenupes wrote:What's you guy's opinion on Southern University Law Center? Does anyone attend, or know anyone at this institution? How would you rank it amongst the other Historically Black Law Schools?
I live near the school and work with a lot of attorneys from there. It produces a high volume of "shitlaw" attorneys, personal injury, workers comp, family law, immigration, etc.

Common knowledge around here is that Southern is a degree mill, and you basically attend in order to qualify for the bar, and then try to hang shingle, or partner up and go into the areas mentioned above. It probably produces the vast majority of black lawyers in southern Louisiana, but unfortunately it doesn't attract the highest caliber of students (black, white or otherwise,) so opportunities outside of alumni offers and shitlaw are limited. My advice to any black lawyer in Louisiana would be to avoid Southern, because it doing more to hurt the image of black attorneys than to help the black community get into law.

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Re: Southern University Law Center

Post by Aberzombie1892 » Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:54 pm

It's a crappy school.

Schools like it attract four types of students:
1. Minorities with decent scores that didn't know any better.
2. Minorities with poor scores.
3. "Majorities" with poor scores.
4. "Majorities" with legacies (parents went there, started a firm, and the student wants to join the firm)

Minorities are generally not in the top 15% of a law school class. Sh*t happens. This is important because all HBCUs except for Howard are at least 30% non-minority. When you add the two factors together you see that "majorities" generally make up the top 15% of the other HBCUs. Employers know this and these top placing "majorities" are not treated any differently than had they attended any other T3/T4 school.

Howard is around 90% minority, and thus a large portion of the top 15% of the class is composed of minority students. Employers know this and are attracted to it because they can hire minority law students that graduated Summa Cum Laude from law school (and other latin honors). Therefore, Howard Law school appears to have far better job prospects than it actually does. If NCCU, FAMU, or Texas Southern were 90% minority, their employment outcomes would be on par with Howard (except for FAMU, for other reasons).

Please don't think employers will not go deeper into the class for minority students from well regarded schools. In fact, in both my personal experience and from what I have heard, employers love minority students that go to high profile schools. Of course this is true for firms, but this is true for government and other sectors as well.

It's mighty morphing examples time:
1. I work in city government. Over the summer, the office will have 3 Tulane interns and 3 Loyola interns. No LSU or Southern.
2. Over the summer, the Orleans Public Defenders will have 1 Southern U intern out of 46 interns.

PM me if you have any questions that you don't want to put up in this thread.

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Re: Southern University Law Center

Post by alexonfyre » Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:17 pm

Aberzombie1892 wrote:It's a crappy school.

Schools like it attract four types of students:
1. Minorities with decent scores that didn't know any better.
2. Minorities with poor scores.
3. "Majorities" with poor scores.
4. "Majorities" with legacies (parents went there, started a firm, and the student wants to join the firm)

Minorities are generally not in the top 15% of a law school class. Sh*t happens. This is important because all HBCUs except for Howard are at least 30% non-minority. When you add the two factors together you see that "majorities" generally make up the top 15% of the other HBCUs. Employers know this and these top placing "majorities" are not treated any differently than had they attended any other T3/T4 school.

Howard is around 90% minority, and thus a large portion of the top 15% of the class is composed of minority students. Employers know this and are attracted to it because they can hire minority law students that graduated Summa Cum Laude from law school (and other latin honors). Therefore, Howard law school appears to have far better job prospects than it actually does. If NCCU, FAMU, or Texas Southern were 90% minority, their employment outcomes would be on par with Howard (except for FAMU, for other reasons).

Please don't think employers will not go deeper into the class for minority students from well regarded schools. In fact, in both my personal experience and from what I have heard, employers love minority students that go to high profile schools. Of course this is true for firms, but this is true for government and other sectors as well.

It's mighty morphing examples time:
1. I work in city government. Over the summer, the office will have 3 Tulane interns and 3 Loyola interns. No LSU or Southern.
2. Over the summer, the Orleans Public Defenders will have 1 Southern U intern out of 46 interns.

PM me if you have any questions that you don't want to put up in this thread.
Truth, I have been told from lawyers around here that they would go 45% deep for URM at Tulane, and still only 15-20% deep at Southern

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Re: Southern University Law Center

Post by thenupes » Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:42 pm

Aberzombie1892 wrote:It's a crappy school.

Schools like it attract four types of students:
1. Minorities with decent scores that didn't know any better.
2. Minorities with poor scores.
3. "Majorities" with poor scores.
4. "Majorities" with legacies (parents went there, started a firm, and the student wants to join the firm)

Minorities are generally not in the top 15% of a law school class. Sh*t happens. This is important because all HBCUs except for Howard are at least 30% non-minority. When you add the two factors together you see that "majorities" generally make up the top 15% of the other HBCUs. Employers know this and these top placing "majorities" are not treated any differently than had they attended any other T3/T4 school.

Howard is around 90% minority, and thus a large portion of the top 15% of the class is composed of minority students. Employers know this and are attracted to it because they can hire minority law students that graduated Summa Cum Laude from law school (and other latin honors). Therefore, Howard law school appears to have far better job prospects than it actually does. If NCCU, FAMU, or Texas Southern were 90% minority, their employment outcomes would be on par with Howard (except for FAMU, for other reasons).

Please don't think employers will not go deeper into the class for minority students from well regarded schools. In fact, in both my personal experience and from what I have heard, employers love minority students that go to high profile schools. Of course this is true for firms, but this is true for government and other sectors as well.

It's mighty morphing examples time:
1. I work in city government. Over the summer, the office will have 3 Tulane interns and 3 Loyola interns. No LSU or Southern.
2. Over the summer, the Orleans Public Defenders will have 1 Southern U intern out of 46 interns.

PM me if you have any questions that you don't want to put up in this thread.
Thanks! I appreciate the response.

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