URM 2014-2015 Cycle Thread Forum

[LoganCouture]

NYU

You guys I'm so happy right now

- also had my SEO interview which went OK I think. I probably talked way too fast but my interviewer was really friendly

Congrats!

[90convoy]

Very well done and congratulations!

[ballcaps]

nyu, nyu, nyu

awwww yeahhhh

as always, pm if you want.

[jw316]

Congrats!!! Sending <3 out to all of you ITT, almost ready to check in just still waiting for a few more fee waivers

[LoganCouture]

nyu, nyu, nyu

awwww yeahhhh

as always, pm if you want.

Congrats ballcaps!

[Tr3]

nyu, nyu, nyu

awwww yeahhhh

as always, pm if you want.

Yeah! congrats!

[AOT]

Thanks y'all!

And feel free to PM of course

[jemthey17]

Aww, congrats everyone! Busy week for sure!

[Tr3]

Gah, with all the TLS excitement on Monday and Tuesday, I'm kind of bored today.

[LoganCouture]

Entertain yourself with this:

http://spiveyconsulting.com/blog/law-sc ... t-of-2015/

[03282016]

[AOT]

Ooof. -20% 175-180

[Tr3]

Entertain yourself with this:

http://spiveyconsulting.com/blog/law-sc ... t-of-2015/

lc ftw.

[jemthey17]

Ooof. -20% 175-180

That number jumped out to me too.

[LoganCouture]

Ooof. -20% 175-180

I love this stat. What will H do?

This time last year we only had 35% of the total applicant pool submitted so it remains to be seen if Jan/Feb/later applicants will change these number significantly.

[jemthey17]

Ooof. -20% 175-180

I love this stat. What will H do?

This time last year we only had 35% of the total applicant pool submitted so it remains to be seen if Jan/Feb/later applicants will change these number significantly.

Wasn't there some evidence that higher scorers tend to apply early, though? I don't remember where I saw this. Not that the coming months couldn't change this picture by the end of the application cycle, but I don't think it's likely.

[LoganCouture]

Ooof. -20% 175-180

I love this stat. What will H do?

This time last year we only had 35% of the total applicant pool submitted so it remains to be seen if Jan/Feb/later applicants will change these number significantly.

Wasn't there some evidence that higher scorers tend to apply early, though? I don't remember where I saw this. Not that the coming months couldn't change this picture by the end of the application cycle, but I don't think it's likely.

http://spiveyconsulting.com/blog/full-2 ... ojections/

I can't find the original thread where someone calculated this stuff though.

ETA: Found it: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... start=1250

[jemthey17]

Ooof. -20% 175-180

I love this stat. What will H do?

This time last year we only had 35% of the total applicant pool submitted so it remains to be seen if Jan/Feb/later applicants will change these number significantly.

Wasn't there some evidence that higher scorers tend to apply early, though? I don't remember where I saw this. Not that the coming months couldn't change this picture by the end of the application cycle, but I don't think it's likely.

http://spiveyconsulting.com/blog/full-2 ... ojections/

I can't find the original thread where someone calculated this stuff though.

This is great. You are great.

[cc78]

nyu, nyu, nyu

awwww yeahhhh

as always, pm if you want.

Now who's the bauss? Congrats ballcaps!

[Harvette]

Ooof. -20% 175-180

That number jumped out to me too.

Could also be bad news for low ish stats shooting for the very top schools. Of they don't have enough high scorers to balance medians, what happens?

[Skool]

I could kind of see that being true if they decrease class sizes generally rather than let medians fall. But is there any evidence of that happening last year at the top schools?

[cc78]

Ooof. -20% 175-180

That number jumped out to me too.

Could also be bad news for low ish stats shooting for the very top schools. Of they don't have enough high scorers to balance medians, what happens?

Doesn't this open the world to lower GPA splitters moreso? This year there are 4,360 seats in T14 schools and if you carry the number of applicants forward (35% have applied right now, if we use last year as a guide), that's going to make for 4,917 170+ takers in the applicant pool, assuming that the remaining applicants are evenly distributed across the score ranges. It is highly unlikely that all of those 4,917 are going to have the 3.8+ GPAs, so I'd be feeling real good if I was a 3.4/17x type, they might do better than you think.

Then, naturally that brings up the thing TLS tells us shouldn't exist, the reverse splitter. If you take the 3.4/17x person, you can pair them with a 3.9x/16x candidate and hold your GPA and LSAT medians.

This is going to be a very interesting cycle.

[LoganCouture]

I could kind of see that being true if they decrease class sizes generally rather than let medians fall. But is there any evidence of that happening last year at the top schools?

For 2017 applicants:
Harvard (-5), UChi (-6), Penn (-1), UVA (-23), and Berkeley (-10) all dropped their class size compared to the previous year.
Yale (+1), Columbia (+29), NYU (+15), Michigan (+3), Duke (+12), NU (+13), Cornell (+10), GULC (+36) increased their size.
Stanford held steady.

For 2016:
Yale (-4), Stanford (-1), Columbia (-16), NYU (-15), UVA (-28), Mich (-29), NU (-30), Cornell (-1), and GULC (-31) all reduced their size compared to the previous year.
Harvard(+12), UChi (+11), Penn (+8), Berkeley (+21), Duke (+1) increased their size.

Source: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... hMXc#gid=0

UVA has shed a lot of students, wow.

[cc78]

I could kind of see that being true if they decrease class sizes generally rather than let medians fall. But is there any evidence of that happening last year at the top schools?

For 2017 applicants:
Harvard (-5), UChi (-6), Penn (-1), UVA (-23), and Berkeley (-10) all dropped their class size compared to the previous year.
Yale (+1), Columbia (+29), NYU (+15), Michigan (+3), Duke (+12), NU (+13), Cornell (+10), GULC (+36) increased their size.
Stanford held steady.

For 2016:
Yale (-4), Stanford (-1), Columbia (-16), NYU (-15), UVA (-28), Mich (-29), NU (-30), Cornell (-1), and GULC (-31) all reduced their size compared to the previous year.
Harvard(+12), UChi (+11), Penn (+8), Berkeley (+21), Duke (+1) increased their size.

Source: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... hMXc#gid=0

We should also remember that some of this oscillating is due to yield not being an exact science.

UVA has shed a lot of students, wow.

[LoganCouture]

Yeah I'd guess that the 5+ point gains/losses are more significant and the others are just fluctuations/noise.