URM 2014-2015 Cycle Thread Forum

[calmboat]

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[Harvette]

I am actually thinking about deferring too

Defer?
What do you guys (Whereishethesis & 90Convoy) mean by that?
Havent you been waitlisted at HLS?
You cant defer if accepted off the waitlist. And you wont be able to apply to HLS again if rejected and you are "deferring" another acceptance. Am i right?

[Harvette]

Reapplying next cycle+retaking. 0 acceptances 4 waitlist 3 denials 4 pending. Applied mid Jan-mid Feb, international, low 160s LSAT. Going to apply early next year.

Sasha,
May I ask where you have been accepted/denied/are pending?
You can PM me if you prefer.

[pushsum123]

Common wisdom on here is that MA/PR/AA/NA applicants are generally considered URMs by all schools. I have seen some non-MA/PR Latinos report a slight boost, but it is usually not as much as URM Latinos receive. The cycles in this thread are all reported by URM candidates who identify as one of the 4 groups I listed, so they may not provide a great example of how your cycle could have gone. UCLA and NYU are nice options. If you don't want to wait until you're eligible to retake the LSAT, I'd say go for one of those as long as it will allow you to reach your goals. If you reapply earlier with the same score/application, you might get a few more acceptances (it was a huge disadvantage to apply late to UVA this year), but I don't think you will be looking at significant T14 money unless you can produce a significantly better application. Barring any major awards, the LSAT is the one component you can change that is sure to increase your chances at $$. Good luck!!

[LoganCouture]

Common wisdom on here is that MA/PR/AA/NA applicants are generally considered URMs by all schools. I have seen some non-MA/PR Latinos report a slight boost, but it is usually not as much as URM Latinos receive. The cycles in this thread are all reported by URM candidates who identify as one of the 4 groups I listed, so they may not provide a great example of how your cycle could have gone. UCLA and NYU are nice options. If you don't want to wait until you're eligible to retake the LSAT, I'd say go for one of those as long as it will allow you to reach your goals. If you reapply earlier with the same score/application, you might get a few more acceptances (it was a huge disadvantage to apply late to UVA this year), but I don't think you will be looking at significant T14 money unless you can produce a significantly better application. Barring any major awards, the LSAT is the one component you can change that is sure to increase your chances at $$. Good luck!!

If an applicant is black/Afrolatino that would be considered URM also, yeah? Although they may not consider themselves "AA."

[calmboat]

I think I got my question answered! thanks everyone

[pushsum123]

Common wisdom on here is that MA/PR/AA/NA applicants are generally considered URMs by all schools. I have seen some non-MA/PR Latinos report a slight boost, but it is usually not as much as URM Latinos receive. The cycles in this thread are all reported by URM candidates who identify as one of the 4 groups I listed, so they may not provide a great example of how your cycle could have gone. UCLA and NYU are nice options. If you don't want to wait until you're eligible to retake the LSAT, I'd say go for one of those as long as it will allow you to reach your goals. If you reapply earlier with the same score/application, you might get a few more acceptances (it was a huge disadvantage to apply late to UVA this year), but I don't think you will be looking at significant T14 money unless you can produce a significantly better application. Barring any major awards, the LSAT is the one component you can change that is sure to increase your chances at $$. Good luck!!

If an applicant is black/Afrolatino that would be considered URM also, yeah? Although they may not consider themselves "AA."

Hey LC Sorry, yeah I just used "AA" to represent the "black/descended from one of the black racial groups of Africa" box on the applications. If an Afrolatino applicant checked both Hispanic and black, he or she would probably be considered a URM as well. In my experience I have seen that some people with black ancestry, including some Dominicans and Cape Verdeans among others, do not and have never considered themselves to be black, and so they do not check that box wherever it may appear. I think the best way to go is to identify as you always have on applications/census forms.

[Atmosphere]

Hey guys,

I've withdrawn from everywhere except for Harvard(WL) and Stanford(just DLS me already), and am 99.9% sure I'll be ending up at Boalt next year. Just waiting on an SEO decision now, and then my cycle will be complete. I'm going to take a much needed break from TLS to get my mind off of law for a little bit, but I just wanted to say it's been one helluva ride with all of you guys! Good luck making your final decisions, and let me know via PM if anyone else will be joining me in the bay!

[LSATneurotic]

Hey guys,

I've withdrawn from everywhere except for Harvard(WL) and Stanford(just DLS me already), and am 99.9% sure I'll be ending up at Boalt next year. Just waiting on an SEO decision now, and then my cycle will be complete. I'm going to take a much needed break from TLS to get my mind off of law for a little bit, but I just wanted to say it's been one helluva ride with all of you guys! Good luck making your final decisions, and let me know via PM if anyone else will be joining me in the bay!

Congrats, man.

[Atmosphere]

Hey guys,

I've withdrawn from everywhere except for Harvard(WL) and Stanford(just DLS me already), and am 99.9% sure I'll be ending up at Boalt next year. Just waiting on an SEO decision now, and then my cycle will be complete. I'm going to take a much needed break from TLS to get my mind off of law for a little bit, but I just wanted to say it's been one helluva ride with all of you guys! Good luck making your final decisions, and let me know via PM if anyone else will be joining me in the bay!

Congrats, man.

Thanks!

[Harvette]

I am curious how long is everyone waitlisted at their top choice willing to ride the waitlist? At what point would it be too late? 1st deposit? When u have already moved to your 2n choice location?

[cc78]

Hey guys,

I've withdrawn from everywhere except for Harvard(WL) and Stanford(just DLS me already), and am 99.9% sure I'll be ending up at Boalt next year. Just waiting on an SEO decision now, and then my cycle will be complete. I'm going to take a much needed break from TLS to get my mind off of law for a little bit, but I just wanted to say it's been one helluva ride with all of you guys! Good luck making your final decisions, and let me know via PM if anyone else will be joining me in the bay!

Don't give up on S just yet...I remember a couple of years ago a bunch of URM folks got good news from S like super late in August. Either way, congrats on Boalt!

[Jessicakes90]

If an applicant is black/Afrolatino that would be considered URM also, yeah? Although they may not consider themselves "AA."

I'm from the Caribbean, consider myself black/Afro-Latina and listed myself as AA and Latina.. just my $0.02!

[Flokkness]

Hey guys,

I've withdrawn from everywhere except for Harvard(WL) and Stanford(just DLS me already), and am 99.9% sure I'll be ending up at Boalt next year. Just waiting on an SEO decision now, and then my cycle will be complete. I'm going to take a much needed break from TLS to get my mind off of law for a little bit, but I just wanted to say it's been one helluva ride with all of you guys! Good luck making your final decisions, and let me know via PM if anyone else will be joining me in the bay!

Will hit you up soon! Cheers Atmo!

[Tr3]

Looks like a lot of people are considering deferring. I hope the interim year(s) are great for you if you decide to defer!

My Dominican friends all seemed to have selected AA and Latino on their apps, which makes sense to me.

[Tr3]

Hey guys,

I've withdrawn from everywhere except for Harvard(WL) and Stanford(just DLS me already), and am 99.9% sure I'll be ending up at Boalt next year. Just waiting on an SEO decision now, and then my cycle will be complete. I'm going to take a much needed break from TLS to get my mind off of law for a little bit, but I just wanted to say it's been one helluva ride with all of you guys! Good luck making your final decisions, and let me know via PM if anyone else will be joining me in the bay!

A break from TLS is much needed! I just can't seem to stay away... lol

[gold33]

WL @ Y.

Last decision!

[DiniMae]

WL @ Y.

Last decision!

It's ok because you have warm weather in your future.

[DiniMae]

I see 6 people chose HLS -- Would you mind popping in and saying hi?

[THE Bigzoman]

Hello everyone,

Let me start off by saying i'm monitoring everyones progress this cycle. Congratulations for those that found success.

Given the data here in other places, I desperately need some advice. I was originally planning on applying to the T20 schools during next cycle, but my GPA is VERYY LOW.

I take the LSAT in october. At that time, my GPA (Economics major, I know, too many of us) will be either at a high 3.1 or a 3.2. At the end of that fall semester, the highest it could be is a 3.3.

I'm not sure that GPA is sufficient, nor do I think I can realistically attain a 170+ score to be a legit splitter. T10 is probably ou the window, but I could see my GPA being less of an issue as I work my way down. My resume is nothing special, just a court justice for the student governments, leadership position in black orgs on campus, and tutored for a program called TRIO: a fed program that helps first gen and minority students through college.

My dream school is Emory in Atlanta. Secondary alternative schools is Flordia, FSU, Iowa (have a good chance here cause they want at least 50% of Iowa residents and i'm born and raised in Iowa).

Worse comes to worse, I could go to Drake (please just kill me now)

Some questions I had for you all is the following.

1. What LSAT score do you think I need to have a decent shot at the lower T20s?
2. Just be honest if I still have a shot.

[Jessicakes90]

Hello everyone,

Let me start off by saying i'm monitoring everyones progress this cycle. Congratulations for those that found success.

Given the data here in other places, I desperately need some advice. I was originally planning on applying to the T20 schools during next cycle, but my GPA is VERYY LOW.

I take the LSAT in october. At that time, my GPA (Economics major, I know, too many of us) will be either at a high 3.1 or a 3.2. At the end of that fall semester, the highest it could be is a 3.3.

I'm not sure that GPA is sufficient, nor do I think I can realistically attain a 170+ score to be a legit splitter. T10 is probably ou the window, but I could see my GPA being less of an issue as I work my way down. My resume is nothing special, just a court justice for the student governments, leadership position in black orgs on campus, and tutored for a program called TRIO: a fed program that helps first gen and minority students through college.

My dream school is Emory in Atlanta. Secondary alternative schools is Flordia, FSU, Iowa (have a good chance here cause they want at least 50% of Iowa residents and i'm born and raised in Iowa).

Worse comes to worse, I could go to Drake (please just kill me now)

Some questions I had for you all is the following.

1. What LSAT score do you think I need to have a decent shot at the lower T20s?
2. Just be honest if I still have a shot.

Your GPA, while low, won't totally ruin you. LSAT definitely is a major factor; obviously aim for 170+ but I think if you're in the high 160's, you should be okay for T20. Do everything you can to secure the 3.3. Spend a good amount of time on your personal statement and diversity statement. And apply early - I think I would have had a better cycle if I had applied in September/October instead of early Feb.

I'm an AA female, 3.1, 168, solid W/E. Currently in at:
Georgetown, Vanderbilt, Emory, GW, and quite a few others (not T20).
Waitlisted at Penn.

It'll be tough, but with a solid LSAT score, you still have a good chance!

[cc78]

Hello everyone,

Let me start off by saying i'm monitoring everyones progress this cycle. Congratulations for those that found success.

Given the data here in other places, I desperately need some advice. I was originally planning on applying to the T20 schools during next cycle, but my GPA is VERYY LOW.

I take the LSAT in october. At that time, my GPA (Economics major, I know, too many of us) will be either at a high 3.1 or a 3.2. At the end of that fall semester, the highest it could be is a 3.3.

I'm not sure that GPA is sufficient, nor do I think I can realistically attain a 170+ score to be a legit splitter. T10 is probably ou the window, but I could see my GPA being less of an issue as I work my way down. My resume is nothing special, just a court justice for the student governments, leadership position in black orgs on campus, and tutored for a program called TRIO: a fed program that helps first gen and minority students through college.

My dream school is Emory in Atlanta. Secondary alternative schools is Flordia, FSU, Iowa (have a good chance here cause they want at least 50% of Iowa residents and i'm born and raised in Iowa).

Worse comes to worse, I could go to Drake (please just kill me now)

Some questions I had for you all is the following.

1. What LSAT score do you think I need to have a decent shot at the lower T20s?
2. Just be honest if I still have a shot.

I'm going to proceed from the assumption that you're a URM. The type of URM you are matters, so please share that with us. Also, get yourself out of the habit now of draping non-URM TLS logic on yourself. URMs have their own logic when it comes to LS admissions. We don't debate about it here, we just try to understand and make good decisions from it.

You're going to want to be in the mid-to high 160s at least to have a shot at a school you're going to want to go to. I really STRONGLY encourage you to read through TLS to get a better sense of the array of schools out there. Your dream list of schools feels pretty random...tell us more, let us help you.

I don't hate on Emory at all, but it is a school that one should attend only with very good reasons and very wide open eyes about what opportunities it will present you with.

[LSATneurotic]

Hello everyone,

Let me start off by saying i'm monitoring everyones progress this cycle. Congratulations for those that found success.

Given the data here in other places, I desperately need some advice. I was originally planning on applying to the T20 schools during next cycle, but my GPA is VERYY LOW.

I take the LSAT in october. At that time, my GPA (Economics major, I know, too many of us) will be either at a high 3.1 or a 3.2. At the end of that fall semester, the highest it could be is a 3.3.

I'm not sure that GPA is sufficient, nor do I think I can realistically attain a 170+ score to be a legit splitter. T10 is probably ou the window, but I could see my GPA being less of an issue as I work my way down. My resume is nothing special, just a court justice for the student governments, leadership position in black orgs on campus, and tutored for a program called TRIO: a fed program that helps first gen and minority students through college.

My dream school is Emory in Atlanta. Secondary alternative schools is Flordia, FSU, Iowa (have a good chance here cause they want at least 50% of Iowa residents and i'm born and raised in Iowa).

Worse comes to worse, I could go to Drake (please just kill me now)

Some questions I had for you all is the following.

1. What LSAT score do you think I need to have a decent shot at the lower T20s?
2. Just be honest if I still have a shot.

1. don't worry about the score you need
2. study for at least three months, see where you are at, and reevaluate.

Focus on getting the best score you can possibly get. Don't leave ANYTHING in the tank. Once you've got your score, then come back here for advice. For now, I recommend focusing on your LSAT and keep your goals on the backburner.

[THE Bigzoman]

Hello everyone,

Let me start off by saying i'm monitoring everyones progress this cycle. Congratulations for those that found success.

Given the data here in other places, I desperately need some advice. I was originally planning on applying to the T20 schools during next cycle, but my GPA is VERYY LOW.

I take the LSAT in october. At that time, my GPA (Economics major, I know, too many of us) will be either at a high 3.1 or a 3.2. At the end of that fall semester, the highest it could be is a 3.3.

I'm not sure that GPA is sufficient, nor do I think I can realistically attain a 170+ score to be a legit splitter. T10 is probably ou the window, but I could see my GPA being less of an issue as I work my way down. My resume is nothing special, just a court justice for the student governments, leadership position in black orgs on campus, and tutored for a program called TRIO: a fed program that helps first gen and minority students through college.

My dream school is Emory in Atlanta. Secondary alternative schools is Flordia, FSU, Iowa (have a good chance here cause they want at least 50% of Iowa residents and i'm born and raised in Iowa).

Worse comes to worse, I could go to Drake (please just kill me now)

Some questions I had for you all is the following.

1. What LSAT score do you think I need to have a decent shot at the lower T20s?
2. Just be honest if I still have a shot.

I'm going to proceed from the assumption that you're a URM. The type of URM you are matters, so please share that with us. Also, get yourself out of the habit now of draping non-URM TLS logic on yourself. URMs have their own logic when it comes to LS admissions. We don't debate about it here, we just try to understand and make good decisions from it.

You're going to want to be in the mid-to high 160s at least to have a shot at a school you're going to want to go to. I really STRONGLY encourage you to read through TLS to get a better sense of the array of schools out there. Your dream list of schools feels pretty random...tell us more, let us help you.

I don't hate on Emory at all, but it is a school that one should attend only with very good reasons and very wide open eyes about what opportunities it will present you with.

AA male.

That list is based solely on geography on places where I could realistically move too.

Still got time to better refine choices beyond those variables though.

[liz9332]

Hello all! 1st time posting in this thread but I have been lurking for a while. Wanted to see if anyone has had any luck negotionating twice? 1 of the main schools I am considering initially offered me 0 but then I was able to get them up quite a bit. But after talking to some of the students in the black law student association (I'm an AA female) I got the impression that there was even more money to be had especially since they have a very low number of AA students and are trying to draw more, but, obviously they were trying to hold it back giving money if possible. Any input would be helpful