URM 2014-2015 Cycle Thread Forum

ChiefMango · Post by **ChiefMango** » Sun Apr 05, 2015 6:17 pm

Glad to second Ballcaps on Yale! Cycle is over - I hope to see you in New Haven next year, BC.

Happy Easter, everybody

JamaicanSaiyan8 · Post by **JamaicanSaiyan8** » Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:55 pm

ballcaps wrote:IN AT YALE

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Big Movessss BC!!! Congrats!!!!

wsag826 · Post by **wsag826** » Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:57 pm

ballcaps wrote:IN AT YALE

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Legendary!!! Congrats!!!

Flokkness · Post by **Flokkness** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 8:01 am

May your decisions be wise and your aid bountiful!

But seriously good luck this week. Getting down to it now.

jemthey17 · Post by **jemthey17** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:03 am

Congrats on Yale, BC and ChiefMango!

LoganCouture · Post by **LoganCouture** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:09 pm

Congrats on Yale CM!!!

Also, shameless plug for my choosing thread: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 6#p8506476

I know some of you have weighed in already and I really appreciate that!

drtygrty · Post by **drtygrty** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:25 pm

For all of you posters who are finally getting to cash in on your hard work with incredible cycles and great $$$ offers, I was hoping you might be able to share some useful anecdotal data/ advice.

I studied while working full time this fall, took the December LSAT and had some SERIOUS anxiety issues during the test and ended up really under performing. I have some good softs and was lucky enough to be admitted to several great schools (Columbia, NYU, Northwestern and Michigan) with a low LSAT score. I have a scholarship offer from Northwestern and am hoping to hear back from NYU and Columbia this week, but I'm also verrrry debt averse and am trying really hard not to disregard the possibility of taking the LSAT again and then reapplying next year. My numbers are nowhere near competitive for a non-URM.

My question for all of y'all is, what's the LSAT score threshold as a URM woman for being competitive for substantial (at least half tuition) scholarships? 168? 170? It would also be so helpful to hear what debt ceilings other people have decided to set for themselves when making the decision about whether or not to attend a school?

Also CONGRATS to all of you who have been crushing this admissions cycle. Y'all are amazing!

pushsum123 · Post by **pushsum123** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:37 pm

drtygrty wrote:For all of you posters who are finally getting to cash in on your hard work with incredible cycles and great $$$ offers, I was hoping you might be able to share some useful anecdotal data/ advice.

I studied while working full time this fall, took the December LSAT and had some SERIOUS anxiety issues during the test and ended up really under performing. I have some good softs and was lucky enough to be admitted to several great schools (Columbia, NYU, Northwestern and Michigan) with a low LSAT score. I have a scholarship offer from Northwestern and am hoping to hear back from NYU and Columbia this week, but I'm also verrrry debt averse and am trying really hard not to disregard the possibility of taking the LSAT again and then reapplying next year. My numbers are nowhere near competitive for a non-URM.

My question for all of y'all is, what's the LSAT score threshold as a URM woman for being competitive for substantial (at least half tuition) scholarships? 168? 170? It would also be so helpful to hear what debt ceilings other people have decided to set for themselves when making the decision about whether or not to attend a school?

Also CONGRATS to all of you who have been crushing this admissions cycle. Y'all are amazing!

Hello! Welcome to the thread

If you know that you can get a significantly better LSAT score, I think that retaking is the way to go. You haven't indicated what your current score is, but if it is on the low end for URM candidates at CCN, then you have plenty of room to improve, especially if your test score is lower than your PT scores. Reapplying with a score that shows your true abilities will put you in a better position for merit aid. As for specific numbers, you should look at the URM cycle results threads for this cycle and the past cycle as well. Just this year alone we have full rides to NYU and UVA with scores in the mid to high 160s and plenty of HYS acceptances in that range as well. What type of urm are you? AA/NA/MA/PR? Either way, that you have several T14 offers this year shows that you are a great candidate. The LSAT, as I too have learned, is a very important part of the admissions process, so you should apply when you are ready to show your best app. Just curious, are you retaking in June or Oct? Best of luck

Flokkness · Post by **Flokkness** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:11 am

lc39 wrote:Congrats on Yale CM!!!

Also, shameless plug for my choosing thread: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 6#p8506476

I know some of you have weighed in already and I really appreciate that!

Read over it but didn't have anything different/better than what's already been said. Will look again. Amazing options to have.

drtygrty - Retake is the credited response here, given that you underperformed badly. I'd add the caveat that it also depends on UGPA, URM status, overall application strength, and so on. Can't see any reason why you shouldn't study hard, retake, and attend a t15 for free (which is more or less the theme here outside of our resident YLS and HLS marquee posters).

Also gaiz: Looking like full-ride Berk vs almost-full-ride GULC vs 90k at Penn (being reconsidered for need). Really hoping Penn comes through, but if not, just taking the money and running.

DiniMae · Post by **DiniMae** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:05 am

lc39 wrote:Congrats on Yale CM!!!

Also, shameless plug for my choosing thread: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 6#p8506476

I know some of you have weighed in already and I really appreciate that!

Hey LC, can you just call the Career Services at all schools and have a frank discussion about your goals? Of course they'll sugar coat things, but perhaps they can give you real stats on likelihood of getting SF/SV firms. Also ask to talk to someone (alum/student) who's from the Bay, has an UG from there w/ significant ties. Additionally, doesn't URM play a factor in firm hiring? Perhaps ask that the poc be a urm as well.

You have legit concerns and I would imagine that the school would try to be as helpful as possible. If you haven't already, peruse the attorney listing of firms you have your eye on and see where people went to UG and LS. See if anyone looks like you. Sorry I don't have anything meaningful to contribute, but I too want to get to the bay post-JD. ((Hoping HLS or Penn will let that happen.))

I also think you should determine whether a LDR is ideal for you for potentially 3-4 month spells without visits. Everyone talks about jobs but love should play a role too.

90convoy · Post by **90convoy** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:12 am

Congrats on the Yales BC and CM!!!! Truly amazing and well deserved

ballcaps · Post by **ballcaps** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:58 am

Flokkness wrote:Looking like full-ride Berk

bro! yes!

LoganCouture · Post by **LoganCouture** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:36 pm

DiniMae wrote:
lc39 wrote:Congrats on Yale CM!!!

Also, shameless plug for my choosing thread: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 6#p8506476

I know some of you have weighed in already and I really appreciate that!
Hey LC, can you just call the Career Services at all schools and have a frank discussion about your goals? Of course they'll sugar coat things, but perhaps they can give you real stats on likelihood of getting SF/SV firms. Also ask to talk to someone (alum/student) who's from the Bay, has an UG from there w/ significant ties. Additionally, doesn't URM play a factor in firm hiring? Perhaps ask that the poc be a urm as well.

You have legit concerns and I would imagine that the school would try to be as helpful as possible. If you haven't already, peruse the attorney listing of firms you have your eye on and see where people went to UG and LS. See if anyone looks like you. Sorry I don't have anything meaningful to contribute, but I too want to get to the bay post-JD. ((Hoping HLS or Penn will let that happen.))

I also think you should determine whether a LDR is ideal for you for potentially 3-4 month spells without visits. Everyone talks about jobs but love should play a role too.

Thanks Dini! (And Flokk!)

Yes, I've spoken to Career Services at UChi and there's 11 2Ls headed to the Bay Area this year. Unfortunately, they can't really tell me how many people preferred SF/SV but couldn't get it...Which is what I'm really concerned about.

I've also spoken to several graduating 3Ls who made it seem like returning to SF was trivially easy but of course, those are people the school put me in touch with and some folks in my choosing thread definitely have pointed out that SF/SV is not a guarantee from any school - I'll need to get good grades no matter where I am.

At this point, I'm mostly between S and UChi and I'm hoping my visit to Chicago will decide it one way or the other.

Flokkness · Post by **Flokkness** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:54 pm

ballcaps wrote:
Flokkness wrote:Looking like full-ride Berk
bro! yes!

Yeaaaaah man, I'm fricking amped, figured I'd land 1-2 livable offers, really happy one of them was Berk!

Also another shameless Choosing a Law School plug! (not really much of a decision, but kind of a decision; just don't want to miss anything)
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 1&t=246261

LoganCouture · Post by **LoganCouture** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 11:55 pm

Flokkness wrote:
ballcaps wrote:
Flokkness wrote:Looking like full-ride Berk
bro! yes!
Yeaaaaah man, I'm fricking amped, figured I'd land 1-2 livable offers, really happy one of them was Berk!

Also another shameless Choosing a Law School plug! (not really much of a decision, but kind of a decision; just don't want to miss anything)
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 1&t=246261

I'd go Penn because you want East Coast eventually and Berk's biglaw #s are always pretty shaky.

I also think east coast PI as your long-term goal favors Penn, although west-coast favors Berkeley.

Flokkness · Post by **Flokkness** » Wed Apr 08, 2015 11:57 am

lc39 wrote:
Flokkness wrote:
ballcaps wrote:
Flokkness wrote:Looking like full-ride Berk
bro! yes!
Yeaaaaah man, I'm fricking amped, figured I'd land 1-2 livable offers, really happy one of them was Berk!

Also another shameless Choosing a Law School plug! (not really much of a decision, but kind of a decision; just don't want to miss anything)
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 1&t=246261
I'd go Penn because you want East Coast eventually and Berk's biglaw #s are always pretty shaky.

I also think east coast PI as your long-term goal favors Penn, although west-coast favors Berkeley.

Thanks LC. Any closer to a decision on your end?

Reserved and withdrawing at Columbia today.

Atmosphere · Post by **Atmosphere** » Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:06 pm

Wakkkafllockness, that's where i'm headed too!
BoalTTTT

180kickflip · Post by **180kickflip** » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:24 pm

Congrats on the decisions guys! Try to come back and give TLS some updates next year. I'm hoping to end up at Boalt as well (next cycle) =)

LoganCouture · Post by **LoganCouture** » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:26 pm

Flokkness wrote:Thanks LC. Any closer to a decision on your end?

Reserved and withdrawing at Columbia today.

Not closer really, although headed to Chicago today so hopefully my visit will help me decide!

Flokkness · Post by **Flokkness** » Wed Apr 08, 2015 5:30 pm

lc39 wrote:
Flokkness wrote:Thanks LC. Any closer to a decision on your end?

Reserved and withdrawing at Columbia today.
Not closer really, although headed to Chicago today so hopefully my visit will help me decide!

Awesome, enjoy!

Atmosphere wrote:Wakkkafllockness, that's where i'm headed too!
BoalTTTT

Oh snap Atmo.

Atmosphere · Post by **Atmosphere** » Wed Apr 08, 2015 7:16 pm

Let's goooooo

cc78 · Post by **cc78** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:01 am

ballcaps wrote:IN AT YALE

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Super late but congrats nonetheless caps! Surely I'll be seeing you in New Haven, yes?

I mean, they send you a snuggie, how can you deny them?

Tr3 · Post by **Tr3** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:34 pm

Gonna have to come visit all the Boalties!!!

90K from CLS (but I withdrew)

DiniMae · Post by **DiniMae** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:48 pm

Tr3 wrote:Gonna have to come visit all the Boalties!!!

90K from CLS (but I withdrew)

Wow! That's a nice chunk for them

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