URM 2014-2015 Cycle Thread Forum

[LSATneurotic]

Hoping I'm not too late the party.

Calm down. URM cycles are generally known to take a long time. Just sit back and chill brah. Get into some new hobbies, have more sex, do something to calm the neuroticism.

Why do you suggest urm cycles take longer? I've heard this theory before, but I've never seen any objective data backing it.

[davek]

Congrats to everyone getting accepted so far! Hoping for a great cycle for everyone. I'm just hoping they don't take too long to decide (good or bad).

[alpha kenny body]

Hoping I'm not too late the party.

Calm down. URM cycles are generally known to take a long time. Just sit back and chill brah. Get into some new hobbies, have more sex, do something to calm the neuroticism.

Why do you suggest urm cycles take longer? I've heard this theory before, but I've never seen any objective data backing it.

The Acceptance dates and length of waitlist riding are around in the cycle threads from last year and the year before I believe.

[LSATneurotic]

Hoping I'm not too late the party.

Calm down. URM cycles are generally known to take a long time. Just sit back and chill brah. Get into some new hobbies, have more sex, do something to calm the neuroticism.

Why do you suggest urm cycles take longer? I've heard this theory before, but I've never seen any objective data backing it.

The Acceptance dates and length of waitlist riding are around in the cycle threads from last year and the year before I believe.

Anecdotal evidence. Also, TLS is unlikely to be a representative sample.

Like i said, there's no solid proof that URMs wait longer than non URMs-- pure conjecture.

[LoganCouture]

Hoping I'm not too late the party.

Calm down. URM cycles are generally known to take a long time. Just sit back and chill brah. Get into some new hobbies, have more sex, do something to calm the neuroticism.

Why do you suggest urm cycles take longer? I've heard this theory before, but I've never seen any objective data backing it.

I would think that URMs who would hurt one or both medians take longer to decide on than non-URMs because the school may want to see if they can safely dip for such an applicant and maintain their medians. Whereas they might not consider a non-URM for as long before rejecting them. No data, just conjecture.

[LSATneurotic]

I'd argue the opposite, especially for the top 14: they are going to admit a large number of URMs who will almost inevitably bring weaker numbers, so why not grab them early and focus on getting to your medians the rest of the cycle ?

[Dream_weaver32]

I'm with Neurotic, I would think they take URM's early that apply early. especially if their numbers aren't too far from medians. The lower the number, the longer I would assume you would have to wait a little longer in the cycle. Adcomms have done it long enough to know how many people with certain numbers they can take without risking their median. Again just my two-cents.

[LoganCouture]

Yeah you guys bring up good points. I'm not sure exactly what adcoms think but I hope for speedy decisions on all of our apps!

[Dream_weaver32]

Yeah you guys bring up good points. I'm not sure exactly what adcoms think but I hope for speedy decisions on all of our apps!

No kidding, hopefully the next couple weeks gets things going. November seems to be when URM's that applied early last year started to hear back based on spreadsheets.

[MadwomanintheAttic]

I'd argue the opposite, especially for the top 14: they are going to admit a large number of URMs who will almost inevitably bring weaker numbers, so why not grab them early and focus on getting to your medians the rest of the cycle ?

Assuming the bolded assumption is how the T-14 adcoms think, how do they view URMs applying ED? I know the common belief is that it's best for URMs not to apply ED, but I'm seriously considering EDing to GULC and would love it if they just decided to grab me early. I can't find any info on mylsn on URM's and ED, so I wondered if anyone here had any info. Thanks in advance.

[WeeBey]

No way GULC is worth sticker (which is what you'll get if you apply ED)

If you have over a 3.4 and 160, youll get better offers in the t14. and if you dont REWRITE

[LoganCouture]

No way GULC is worth sticker (which is what you'll get if you apply ED)

If you have over a 3.4 and 160, youll get better offers in the t14. and if you dont REWRITE

+1

[MadwomanintheAttic]

Should've clarified, but given I won't have the burden of sticker debt is it worth it, if it's my 1st choice at this point (Unfortunately, do to a death I've inherited enough to pay tuition and housing won't be an issue as I have a relative living in the area). Any opinions on ED and being a URM?

[LoganCouture]

I'm so sorry to hear about your loss.

I would rather save my money and possibly get $. But if you would take sticker at GULC over money at GW (or Cornell, UT, Vandy, etc.) you could do it.

Here is an interesting blog post (written 2013) about the benefit/lack thereof of applying ED based on info from LSN.

http://admissionsbythenumbers.blogspot. ... 4.html?m=1

[WeeBey]

Should've clarified, but given I won't have the burden of sticker debt is it worth it, if it's my 1st choice at this point (Unfortunately, do to a death I've inherited enough to pay tuition and housing won't be an issue as I have a relative living in the area). Any opinions on ED and being a URM?

Doesn't matter. Money is still money. What are your numbers? and if your gonna ED, go somewhere better than GULC

[LSATneurotic]

Should've clarified, but given I won't have the burden of sticker debt is it worth it, if it's my 1st choice at this point (Unfortunately, do to a death I've inherited enough to pay tuition and housing won't be an issue as I have a relative living in the area). Any opinions on ED and being a URM?

Doesn't matter. Money is still money. What are your numbers? and if your gonna ED, go somewhere better than GULC

I'm also reluctant to advise anyone to ED, ever. But if money truly does not concern you and GULC is your dream school (although aside from location, i can't fathom why it would be), ED away, my friend.

For me, though, I'd be hesitant to throw away a couple hundred thousand unnecessarily, even if I was a multimillionaire.

[davek]

Isn't GULC known for deciding pretty quickly anyway?

[MadwomanintheAttic]

I appreciate all the responses. I suppose I'll hold out EDing anywhere. GULC is my top choice as I want to work for a government agency and love the DC. It's always been my dream to attend school there and make that my home. I though there would be some boost to applying ED, but from the article posted it appears GULC may actually disadvantage such applicants. I'll just wait.

[Atmosphere]

Just got some t14 feewaivers today, excited to finally begin the process

[FairchildFLT]

Just got some t14 feewaivers today, excited to finally begin the process

+1 Got unsolicited UCHI today so I threw an application that way. I need to determine if they're 100% free via GI Bill as well.

[Atmosphere]

Just got some t14 feewaivers today, excited to finally begin the process

+1 Got unsolicited UCHI today so I threw an application that way. I need to determine if they're 100% free via GI Bill as well.

Penn & Columbia just came in for me as well

[alpha kenny body]

Just got some t14 feewaivers today, excited to finally begin the process

+1 Got unsolicited UCHI today so I threw an application that way. I need to determine if they're 100% free via GI Bill as well.

They're private. I think your only chance of 100% GI would be at UVA, Michigan, and Berkeley if you're only thinking of applying to the T14. If not, USC and UT are right there in the rankings.

[alpha kenny body]

I'd argue the opposite, especially for the top 14: they are going to admit a large number of URMs who will almost inevitably bring weaker numbers, so why not grab them early and focus on getting to your medians the rest of the cycle ?

I would argue that most schools know the percentage of URMs they are taking in advance, therefore, in order to manipulate their medians, they select most of the non-URM students at or above median averages, and the competitive URMs who apply early AT the beginning. I also believe this would also explain why many URMs who apply early that aren't exactly auto admit are waitlisted and receive their decisions toward the end of the cycle or near first seat deposits when most of the school's accepted students have been selected. They would obviously receive some sort of preference for their applying early, however, they are thus being selected from the pool of URM applicants who applied later alongside the others who haven't been waitlisted as long. This practice would be easy, in my opinion, to manipulate the medians with than going all out on URMs at the beginning because the numbers are relatively set towards the end of the cycle, and less susceptible to alterations. I believe a URM acceptance timeline graph is somewhere around this site.

[DiniMae]

Does anyone know if fee waivers mean anything in terms of acceptance? I'm borderline for several T14s (I thought I was out of the game completely), but I received a bunch of fee waivers (I think for my GPA). Does this mean that I have a legitimate shot if I apply now and mark that I'm retaking the LSAT in Dec? Or should I just wait, which was my plan before the waivers rolled in?

[Harvette]

Does anyone know if fee waivers mean anything in terms of acceptance? I'm borderline for several T14s (I thought I was out of the game completely), but I received a bunch of fee waivers (I think for my GPA). Does this mean that I have a legitimate shot if I apply now and mark that I'm retaking the LSAT in Dec? Or should I just wait, which was my plan before the waivers rolled in?

Nice to have but It does not mean much.