Carter 2 is still one of my favorite albums, if he'd kept going that route I think people would be definitely talking about him as the greatest of all time right now.
i mean they still do but I don't know if its justified

Carter 2 was sick. Da Drought 3 as a mixtape lyrically shat on everything else he put out though.jd20132013 wrote:I gotta judge wayne more on what i know he's capable of than the bs he puts out on a regular basis.
Carter 2 is still one of my favorite albums, if he'd kept going that route I think people would be definitely talking about him as the greatest of all time right now.
i mean they still do but I don't know if its justified
I knew Lil Wayne was something special when I would listen to 'Tha Cater II' throughout my junior year in high school. 'Tha Mob' is still one of the rawest songs I have ever heard in my life. I swear I still play it every now and then when I go to the gym. He tore that track apart.RJ127 wrote:Carter 2 was sick. Da Drought 3 as a mixtape lyrically shat on everything else he put out though.jd20132013 wrote:I gotta judge wayne more on what i know he's capable of than the bs he puts out on a regular basis.
Carter 2 is still one of my favorite albums, if he'd kept going that route I think people would be definitely talking about him as the greatest of all time right now.
i mean they still do but I don't know if its justified
if you have a minute, listen to "Hot Shit" Weezy and Juelz. He goes hard as hell on that track. "I'm a libra, and my sign is a scale, and if it don't measure up, then a n--ga gettin' killed". Both of them dominate that beat.yngblkgifted wrote:I knew Lil Wayne was something special when I would listen to 'Tha Cater II' throughout my junior year in high school. 'Tha Mob' is still one of the rawest songs I have ever heard in my life. I swear I still play it every now and then when I go to the gym. He tore that track apart.RJ127 wrote:Carter 2 was sick. Da Drought 3 as a mixtape lyrically shat on everything else he put out though.jd20132013 wrote:I gotta judge wayne more on what i know he's capable of than the bs he puts out on a regular basis.
Carter 2 is still one of my favorite albums, if he'd kept going that route I think people would be definitely talking about him as the greatest of all time right now.
i mean they still do but I don't know if its justified
I have to disagree. I thought C3 was very innovative. Dude was doing tracks with everyone from Bobby V to Babyface. Each song to me was really well done. Lollipop was ridiculously commercial and I grew to hate it. But songs like "Comfortable", "Tie my Hands", even "A Milli" went super hard. I also really like the funky concept of "Phone Home". I guess you just have to respect dude's versatility in the tracks.yngblkgifted wrote:For the most part, Tha Cater III sucked ass. The only reason I bought it was because I bought into the hype. I'm not mad at Lil Wayne though. He is doing what will make money. I don't care if you love him or hate him, he is the only artist to literally dominate radio like that ( and for so long). He completely changed limitations to exposure. At one point, you couldn't listen to the radio without hearing "Young Moolah BAAAAABY!"
How he went from being that rat looking teenager hype man in Cash Money saying 'bling bling' to becoming a global phenomenon and trendsetter and will never cease to amaze and in some ways inspire me.
Without a doubt, all of the old terror squad was dope back in the day. I actually see Cuban Link out at some bars in the Bronx/ Yonkers occasionally.yngblkgifted wrote:Much love for the South Bronx. Even Fat Joe has killed many tracks in my opinion.SupraVln180 wrote:You guys are all definitely black, where is Big Pun on that list? Come on, show your hispanic cousins some love.Non-Chalant1 wrote:Be was a great all around album. He's been downhill since then but Finding Forever has its moments. I'd probably put him in my top 10 favorite rappers of all time. But Nas, Jay, 2Pac = holy trinity >>>>>jd20132013 wrote:I've never been a huge common listener. Just one of those artists whose skill I recognize but I can't get into for whatever reason. I do enjoy Be though.
Maybe 'sucked ass' was a little too harsh but I do not believe it was "innovative" - at least not lyrically and definitely not musically. But at the time, I was holding him to very high standards because tha Drought 3 and the Tha Cater II were fresh in my memory.RJ127 wrote:I have to disagree. I thought C3 was very innovative. Dude was doing tracks with everyone from Bobby V to Babyface. Each song to me was really well done. Lollipop was ridiculously commercial and I grew to hate it. But songs like "Comfortable", "Tie my Hands", even "A Milli" went super hard. I also really like the funky concept of "Phone Home". I guess you just have to respect dude's versatility in the tracks.yngblkgifted wrote:For the most part, Tha Cater III sucked ass. The only reason I bought it was because I bought into the hype. I'm not mad at Lil Wayne though. He is doing what will make money. I don't care if you love him or hate him, he is the only artist to literally dominate radio like that ( and for so long). He completely changed limitations to exposure. At one point, you couldn't listen to the radio without hearing "Young Moolah BAAAAABY!"
How he went from being that rat looking teenager hype man in Cash Money saying 'bling bling' to becoming a global phenomenon and trendsetter and will never cease to amaze and in some ways inspire me.
Is that sarcastic? If you're being serious you need to get familiar. Listen to "Not A Player", not "Still Not A Player", just "Not A Player".... "Still Not A Player" is the mainstream bullshit version thats not as good or lyrical.Alltheirsplendor wrote:Tha Carter II was amazing. I remember listening to it in high school as well. I'm not partial to the homophobia in his lyrics though.
Kid Cudi though... Wow, I've been really impressed with his recent stuff. Some say his latest album is a bit too dark and it seems as if Kudi gets lost in himself but I love stuff like that. These days I'm obsessed with Das Racist. Oh! And B.o.b. is fun, especially live.
I don't think I have a HYS set of rappers though... Hmm.. Jay-Z would be on there if I did. Nas too...
By the by, congrats to everyone this cycle. You guys are amazing. I must admit that it makes us future applicants feel a bit sheepish...
P.S.
Never heard of Big Pun. Just watched a music video of him. Mind blown.
No, not at all. Apologies if it seemed as if I was. I'm not that sort of TLS member.SupraVln180 wrote:Is that sarcastic? If you're being serious you need to get familiar. Listen to "Not A Player", not "Still Not A Player", just "Not A Player".... "Still Not A Player" is the mainstream bullshit version thats not as good or lyrical.Alltheirsplendor wrote:Tha Carter II was amazing. I remember listening to it in high school as well. I'm not partial to the homophobia in his lyrics though.
Kid Cudi though... Wow, I've been really impressed with his recent stuff. Some say his latest album is a bit too dark and it seems as if Kudi gets lost in himself but I love stuff like that. These days I'm obsessed with Das Racist. Oh! And B.o.b. is fun, especially live.
I don't think I have a HYS set of rappers though... Hmm.. Jay-Z would be on there if I did. Nas too...
By the by, congrats to everyone this cycle. You guys are amazing. I must admit that it makes us future applicants feel a bit sheepish...
P.S.
Never heard of Big Pun. Just watched a music video of him. Mind blown.
Alltheirsplendor wrote:No, not at all. Apologies if it seemed as if I was. I'm not that sort of TLS member.SupraVln180 wrote:Is that sarcastic? If you're being serious you need to get familiar. Listen to "Not A Player", not "Still Not A Player", just "Not A Player".... "Still Not A Player" is the mainstream bullshit version thats not as good or lyrical.Alltheirsplendor wrote:Tha Carter II was amazing. I remember listening to it in high school as well. I'm not partial to the homophobia in his lyrics though.
Kid Cudi though... Wow, I've been really impressed with his recent stuff. Some say his latest album is a bit too dark and it seems as if Kudi gets lost in himself but I love stuff like that. These days I'm obsessed with Das Racist. Oh! And B.o.b. is fun, especially live.
I don't think I have a HYS set of rappers though... Hmm.. Jay-Z would be on there if I did. Nas too...
By the by, congrats to everyone this cycle. You guys are amazing. I must admit that it makes us future applicants feel a bit sheepish...
P.S.
Never heard of Big Pun. Just watched a music video of him. Mind blown.
Dang it, I was being entertained...GAIAtheCHEERLEADER wrote:http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 0&t=146300
Let's try and stay on-topic, guys....
I hope so. Good luck. I heard back from my first school last friday (rejected at boalt), so I'm kind of dreading tomorrow.BlakcMajikc wrote:Dang it, I was being entertained...GAIAtheCHEERLEADER wrote:http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 0&t=146300
Let's try and stay on-topic, guys....
Not too much movement on this topic as of late (ie see Cornell 2011 for some nasty Processing-> Complete->UR dates), but tomorrow should bring in some admits for the URMs here (including myself). I can feel it.
I'm sorry, but there's nothing versatile about throwing an R and B singer on the hook. Babyface's production and hook were the best things about Comfortable. Tie My Hands let me down big time. The beat was there, the hook was there and you're New Orleans' biggest star and you just had pretty much standard lyrics. Then he goes to TV and says, "I'm a gangsta Ms. Katie and gangstas don't ask question." I don't give people point just for doing something different if it's not done well....he's not Andre 3K in that regard. I think he took a step back lyrically all around on that album. His hype will never cease to amaze me. Since the Carter II (maybe Drought 3 as a notable exception) for every good line he has, there are 3 average or bad ones. Right now he's built off hype and his persona that somehow an entire generation identify with. His flow is incredibly advanced right now, but lyrically....he took two steps back. He's better than these generic punch lines rappers and has bright spots now and then, but he could've been an all time great. He'll still be that, but not in quality of albums, but in consistency of hype. Hip Hop's Madonna.RJ127 wrote:I have to disagree. I thought C3 was very innovative. Dude was doing tracks with everyone from Bobby V to Babyface. Each song to me was really well done. Lollipop was ridiculously commercial and I grew to hate it. But songs like "Comfortable", "Tie my Hands", even "A Milli" went super hard. I also really like the funky concept of "Phone Home". I guess you just have to respect dude's versatility in the tracks.yngblkgifted wrote:For the most part, Tha Cater III sucked ass. The only reason I bought it was because I bought into the hype. I'm not mad at Lil Wayne though. He is doing what will make money. I don't care if you love him or hate him, he is the only artist to literally dominate radio like that ( and for so long). He completely changed limitations to exposure. At one point, you couldn't listen to the radio without hearing "Young Moolah BAAAAABY!"
How he went from being that rat looking teenager hype man in Cash Money saying 'bling bling' to becoming a global phenomenon and trendsetter and will never cease to amaze and in some ways inspire me.
He's definitely not built off of hype. C2 put him on a pedastle and Drought 3 put him in a different arena. He proved himself. And he took two steps back lyrically? Don't see how. C3 was a commercial album. I give him a pass for that because he dropped No Ceilings after that and re-solidified his skill on that mixtape. He followed the bread and I'm not mad at that, but C3 wasn't the lyrical genius that Weezy is. He proved that on his follow up mixtape though.Non-Chalant1 wrote:I'm sorry, but there's nothing versatile about throwing an R and B singer on the hook. Babyface's production and hook were the best things about Comfortable. Tie My Hands let me down big time. The beat was there, the hook was there and you're New Orleans' biggest star and you just had pretty much standard lyrics. Then he goes to TV and says, "I'm a gangsta Ms. Katie and gangstas don't ask question." I don't give people point just for doing something different if it's not done well....he's not Andre 3K in that regard. I think he took a step back lyrically all around on that album. His hype will never cease to amaze me. Since the Carter II (maybe Drought 3 as a notable exception) for every good line he has, there are 3 average or bad ones. Right now he's built off hype and his persona that somehow an entire generation identify with. His flow is incredibly advanced right now, but lyrically....he took two steps back. He's better than these generic punch lines rappers and has bright spots now and then, but he could've been an all time great. He'll still be that, but not in quality of albums, but in consistency of hype. Hip Hop's Madonna.RJ127 wrote:I have to disagree. I thought C3 was very innovative. Dude was doing tracks with everyone from Bobby V to Babyface. Each song to me was really well done. Lollipop was ridiculously commercial and I grew to hate it. But songs like "Comfortable", "Tie my Hands", even "A Milli" went super hard. I also really like the funky concept of "Phone Home". I guess you just have to respect dude's versatility in the tracks.yngblkgifted wrote:For the most part, Tha Cater III sucked ass. The only reason I bought it was because I bought into the hype. I'm not mad at Lil Wayne though. He is doing what will make money. I don't care if you love him or hate him, he is the only artist to literally dominate radio like that ( and for so long). He completely changed limitations to exposure. At one point, you couldn't listen to the radio without hearing "Young Moolah BAAAAABY!"
How he went from being that rat looking teenager hype man in Cash Money saying 'bling bling' to becoming a global phenomenon and trendsetter and will never cease to amaze and in some ways inspire me.
Again all No Ceilings showed me was that he had an advanced flow. That is my point, he gets by along on flow alone these days. It's not what he says, it's how he says it. Jay-Z once said something similar a few years ago. (Ironic because Jay-Z and 3K are probably Wayne's biggest influences outside of the obvious New Orleans stuff) . The Carter 2 was when the mainstream started realizing he could rap, but you can't hang your hat on that and a couple of hot mixtapes. He still has not delivered a classic album...Kanye West has a better discography if we're being realistic and obviously Wayne's a more talented rapper. But you don't get put in greatest of all time discussions without having those type of albums on your resume'.RJ127 wrote:He's definitely not built off of hype. C2 put him on a pedastle and Drought 3 put him in a different arena. He proved himself. And he took two steps back lyrically? Don't see how. C3 was a commercial album. I give him a pass for that because he dropped No Ceilings after that and re-solidified his skill on that mixtape. He followed the bread and I'm not mad at that, but C3 wasn't the lyrical genius that Weezy is. He proved that on his follow up mixtape though.Non-Chalant1 wrote:I'm sorry, but there's nothing versatile about throwing an R and B singer on the hook. Babyface's production and hook were the best things about Comfortable. Tie My Hands let me down big time. The beat was there, the hook was there and you're New Orleans' biggest star and you just had pretty much standard lyrics. Then he goes to TV and says, "I'm a gangsta Ms. Katie and gangstas don't ask question." I don't give people point just for doing something different if it's not done well....he's not Andre 3K in that regard. I think he took a step back lyrically all around on that album. His hype will never cease to amaze me. Since the Carter II (maybe Drought 3 as a notable exception) for every good line he has, there are 3 average or bad ones. Right now he's built off hype and his persona that somehow an entire generation identify with. His flow is incredibly advanced right now, but lyrically....he took two steps back. He's better than these generic punch lines rappers and has bright spots now and then, but he could've been an all time great. He'll still be that, but not in quality of albums, but in consistency of hype. Hip Hop's Madonna.RJ127 wrote:I have to disagree. I thought C3 was very innovative. Dude was doing tracks with everyone from Bobby V to Babyface. Each song to me was really well done. Lollipop was ridiculously commercial and I grew to hate it. But songs like "Comfortable", "Tie my Hands", even "A Milli" went super hard. I also really like the funky concept of "Phone Home". I guess you just have to respect dude's versatility in the tracks.yngblkgifted wrote:For the most part, Tha Cater III sucked ass. The only reason I bought it was because I bought into the hype. I'm not mad at Lil Wayne though. He is doing what will make money. I don't care if you love him or hate him, he is the only artist to literally dominate radio like that ( and for so long). He completely changed limitations to exposure. At one point, you couldn't listen to the radio without hearing "Young Moolah BAAAAABY!"
How he went from being that rat looking teenager hype man in Cash Money saying 'bling bling' to becoming a global phenomenon and trendsetter and will never cease to amaze and in some ways inspire me.
Damn now you got me sounding like the biggest weezy stan on the planet!
6'7' and Fire Flame Remix both had sick Weezy verses lol. I agree though you can't do it on flow alone. Jigga makes you feel his music much like Pac and Big did. And no Wayne album has ever come close to an Illmatic, Blueprint, All Eyez on Me, Life After Death, etc. But Wayne created a new lane for rapping. Not just like obvious punchlines, but some of his ish is well thought out and has me trippin for a bit. Especially when he inserts references from our childhood (since he is like our age still lol). I guess its "to each their own" with Wayne but I appreciate what he's accomplished thus far and will continue to support his career.Non-Chalant1 wrote: Again all No Ceilings showed me was that he had an advanced flow. That is my point, he gets by along on flow alone these days. It's not what he says, it's how he says it. Jay-Z once said something similar a few years ago. (Ironic because Jay-Z and 3K are probably Wayne's biggest influences outside of the obvious New Orleans stuff) . The Carter 2 was when the mainstream started realizing he could rap, but you can't hang your hat on that and a couple of hot mixtapes. He still has not delivered a classic album...Kanye West has a better discography if we're being realistic and obviously Wayne's a more talented rapper. But you don't get put in greatest of all time discussions without having those type of albums on your resume'.
Your only as good as your last verse or product. When was the last time you heard a Wayne feature that made your jaw drop? A verse that made you double-take? It's more his persona than his lyrics at this point. "I think about more than I forget." Who else but Wayne could say that and have people going
+1, slowly starting to lose my shit waitingdey206 wrote:anyone hear anything yet? The wait is killing me.