URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread Forum

[Hi-So - ArshavinFan]

Priority Reserve at Duke....sigh
Dont know what else I could have done except get a higher LSAT.

I really really wanted them too. As it stands I might just save up and get a admission consulting service because I dont want to go through this again.

[uhwrestler]

Just got acceptance email from Columbia. In shock.

when did you apply?

[blossomisaloaf]

I'm really looking forward to meeting some URMs in law school too. That being said is anyone a little concerned about going to a school that doesn't really have a lot of diversity?

I went to UH for undergrad and currently live in Houston, so I never feel like a minority wherever I go. When I grew up in Michigan it was different. I lived in a white neighborhood and went to a primarily white school system. It was fine for elementary and stuff, but in middle school and high school it was a bit difficult. I'm a male MA and have brown skin, but I guess my facial characteristics to a lot of people made me appear if I was from the middle east. I experienced various degrees of racism intended for a different race, and it hurt. It's difficult to talk about it.

Anyways I don't want to experience that again, or feel like how I did back then. I just want to go to a school where I can find people to relate to. Sorry for the depressing post, just really had to get it off my chest.

I feel this so heavy. I'm Latina and from Los Angeles so I've always been surrounded by people like me but I went to school in Oregon for undergrad for one year and was so miserable.

I went from being part of a cultural majority to feeling so alienated because of my race I could hardly stand it! I faced microaggressions nearly every day and the occasional blatantly racist comment.

It was very difficult for me. I ended up transferring back to a school in Los Angeles because I was depressed! Racism takes a huge toll on our psyche. It's definitely difficult to quantify when you talk to non-URM about what factors took a toll on your educational trajectory but it's a big deal.

I had to take a long hard look at the schools I wanted to apply to and only ended up applying to schools in big cities with large diverse populations.

It seriously matters.

[lnsl123]

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[brinicolec]

I'm really looking forward to meeting some URMs in law school too. That being said is anyone a little concerned about going to a school that doesn't really have a lot of diversity?

I went to UH for undergrad and currently live in Houston, so I never feel like a minority wherever I go. When I grew up in Michigan it was different. I lived in a white neighborhood and went to a primarily white school system. It was fine for elementary and stuff, but in middle school and high school it was a bit difficult. I'm a male MA and have brown skin, but I guess my facial characteristics to a lot of people made me appear if I was from the middle east. I experienced various degrees of racism intended for a different race, and it hurt. It's difficult to talk about it.

Anyways I don't want to experience that again, or feel like how I did back then. I just want to go to a school where I can find people to relate to. Sorry for the depressing post, just really had to get it off my chest.

I feel this so heavy. I'm Latina and from Los Angeles so I've always been surrounded by people like me but I went to school in Oregon for undergrad for one year and was so miserable.

I went from being part of a cultural majority to feeling so alienated because of my race I could hardly stand it! I faced microaggressions nearly every day and the occasional blatantly racist comment.

It was very difficult for me. I ended up transferring back to a school in Los Angeles because I was depressed! Racism takes a huge toll on our psyche. It's definitely difficult to quantify when you talk to non-URM about what factors took a toll on your educational trajectory but it's a big deal.

I had to take a long hard look at the schools I wanted to apply to and only ended up applying to schools in big cities with large diverse populations.

It seriously matters.

I've taken some solace in the fact that a lot of law schools, especially T14s, seem to have really strong black student associations. I'm not sure if that's the same for you guys, but I'd definitely see if you can get in touch with people who are in the group, or even just minorities on campus, and see what they say about it. I know the person I interviewed with for NU was in BLSA and she said that it's nice because other BLSA members who may not even know you will be like "Hey, I know you're in your first year here. How's everything going?" and a friend who attends Michigan (which I'm iffy about because of location and lack of diversity) said that even though it's very white there, the black students tend to stick together and it's like an unwritten rule that if you see another black student you at least say hey.

[uhwrestler]

still radio silence from most t-14

[hammy393]

Spivey (@SpiveyConsult):

"LSAT scores
165 - 169 DOWN 11.6%
170 - 174 UP 1.1%
175 - 180 DOWN 26.1%
Will get full data up tonight"

[AJ1010]

Spivey (@SpiveyConsult):

"LSAT scores
165 - 169 DOWN 11.6%
170 - 174 UP 1.1%
175 - 180 DOWN 26.1%
Will get full data up tonight"

Will there be any way to see URM specific data?

[brinicolec]

Spivey (@SpiveyConsult):

"LSAT scores
165 - 169 DOWN 11.6%
170 - 174 UP 1.1%
175 - 180 DOWN 26.1%
Will get full data up tonight"

Will there be any way to see URM specific data?

I think the full data usually shows different urm groups

[USayinBoalt]

Spivey (@SpiveyConsult):

"LSAT scores
165 - 169 DOWN 11.6%
170 - 174 UP 1.1%
175 - 180 DOWN 26.1%
Will get full data up tonight"

Will there be any way to see URM specific data?

I think the full data usually shows different urm groups

Yeah, it has all the URM data

here's the link to all the new data http://blog.spiveyconsulting.com/2016-2 ... -02-03-17/

[AJ1010]

Spivey (@SpiveyConsult):

"LSAT scores
165 - 169 DOWN 11.6%
170 - 174 UP 1.1%
175 - 180 DOWN 26.1%
Will get full data up tonight"

Will there be any way to see URM specific data?

I think the full data usually shows different urm groups

Yeah, it has all the URM data

here's the link to all the new data http://blog.spiveyconsulting.com/2016-2 ... -02-03-17/

I was hoping for more of a breakdown of how URMs specifically performed.

[alpha kenny body]

looks like AA males are a hot commodity

[sfn91]

I am looking at the Spivey data from last year, and it looks like URM applicants shoot up a LOT between late February and June. Almost twice as many applicants later in the cycle than early on. There's an increase for white applicants as well, but it's not as marked.

http://blog.spiveyconsulting.com/2015-1 ... 2-24-2016/

Black or African American 4,537 -5.4%
Hispanic/Latino 4,501 6.0%
Puerto Rican 846 3.3%
American Indian or Alaska Native 772 -2.9%

http://blog.spiveyconsulting.com/2015-1 ... s-of-6-24/

Black or African American 8,021 -2.6%
Hispanic/Latino 7,040 7.6%
Puerto Rican 1,578 -7.1%
American Indian or Alaska Native 1,196 -2.4%

Does this mean URM students are not applying to top schools, seeing as those schools' application deadlines would have mostly passed after March?

[brinicolec]

I am looking at the Spivey data from last year, and it looks like URM applicants shoot up a LOT between late February and June. Almost twice as many applicants later in the cycle than early on. There's an increase for white applicants as well, but it's not as marked.

http://blog.spiveyconsulting.com/2015-1 ... 2-24-2016/

Black or African American 4,537 -5.4%
Hispanic/Latino 4,501 6.0%
Puerto Rican 846 3.3%
American Indian or Alaska Native 772 -2.9%

http://blog.spiveyconsulting.com/2015-1 ... s-of-6-24/

Black or African American 8,021 -2.6%
Hispanic/Latino 7,040 7.6%
Puerto Rican 1,578 -7.1%
American Indian or Alaska Native 1,196 -2.4%

Does this mean URM students are not applying to top schools, seeing as those schools' application deadlines would have mostly passed after March?

Hm... It's possible. I think a lot of URMs usually have lower LSATs/GPAs (or at least I know I do! Lol) so maybe they assume they can't get in to T14s?

[sfn91]

White
23889 to 33933, Change: 42.04%

Asian
4279 to 5629, Change: 31.55%

NA
772 to 1196, Change: 54.92%

Hispanic
4501 to 7040, Change: 56.41%

Puerto Rican
846 to 1578; Change: 86.52%

Black
4537 to 8021; Change: 76.79%

[sfn91]

I am looking at the Spivey data from last year, and it looks like URM applicants shoot up a LOT between late February and June. Almost twice as many applicants later in the cycle than early on. There's an increase for white applicants as well, but it's not as marked.

http://blog.spiveyconsulting.com/2015-1 ... 2-24-2016/

Black or African American 4,537 -5.4%
Hispanic/Latino 4,501 6.0%
Puerto Rican 846 3.3%
American Indian or Alaska Native 772 -2.9%

http://blog.spiveyconsulting.com/2015-1 ... s-of-6-24/

Black or African American 8,021 -2.6%
Hispanic/Latino 7,040 7.6%
Puerto Rican 1,578 -7.1%
American Indian or Alaska Native 1,196 -2.4%

Does this mean URM students are not applying to top schools, seeing as those schools' application deadlines would have mostly passed after March?

Hm... It's possible. I think a lot of URMs usually have lower LSATs/GPAs (or at least I know I do! Lol) so maybe they assume they can't get in to T14s?

For sure, there's definitely some self-selection going on!

[lnsl123]

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[sfn91]

Definitely feel like the cycle is picking up. I've heard from one school each day this week. Anyone else feeling the same?

I've heard from one school and finally went complete at another! So maybe.

[20171lhopeful]

Definitely feel like the cycle is picking up. I've heard from one school each day this week. Anyone else feeling the same?

You're having an amazing week! Congrats!!

[crookedsmile]

Definitely feel like the cycle is picking up. I've heard from one school each day this week. Anyone else feeling the same?

You're having an amazing week! Congrats!!

Yeah you're def killin' it right now, props.

[texcellence]

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[dyebri]

I had a HARVARD interview yesterday and I don't feel too good about it. The interview was rushed because my interviweer was late and we were only able to speak for 10 minutes. I wanted to see how much of a deal breaker is the interview

[azaleafire]

I had a HARVARD interview yesterday and I don't feel too good about it. The interview was rushed because my interviweer was late and we were only able to speak for 10 minutes. I wanted to see how much of a deal breaker is the interview

Don't worry! From what the thread says its a basic "is this person crazy/weird/crazy-weird" test. I am sure you did fine.

[mysterycat2020]

I just got an e-mail from the Democratic Party titled "REJECTED." My heart skipped a beat.

Not cool...

hahaha OMG ME TOO! My mom didn't understand lol so glad I am not the only one!

[sfn91]

I had a HARVARD interview yesterday and I don't feel too good about it. The interview was rushed because my interviweer was late and we were only able to speak for 10 minutes. I wanted to see how much of a deal breaker is the interview

When did you go complete/get your JS1?