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joeant wrote:
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jnwa wrote:
YCDAACH wrote:URM, slightly new TLS poster and lurker. I spent almost my entire undergraduate life thinking I would go to a regional law school. I took the LSAT in October of my senior year and I have a 3.67 gpa. It wasn't until December of my senior year that I understood the AA boost. For the 2010 entering class there were only 63 African American students who had an LSAT score of 165+ and a gpa of 3.5+. After figuring that out, I blanketed the whole T-14. I have gotten into a couple, wait listed from some, no huge scholarships yet, but I'm still waiting patiently to see how this cycle might turn out. Now that I know what position I am in I am considering retaking the LSAT and re-applying next cycle. But I also have AA friends who have LSAT's slightly lower than mine and gpa's lower than mine who got full-ride at T6's.

I think many AA's aren't fully aware of the AA boost, so they give up or settle before even really starting the process. Also AA applicants may get into a T-14 school, but the money may not be there for them if they are in the bottom percentile's for the schools they are getting into, so they may go to a lower tier school where they can get $$.
What kind of numbers are we talking for these t6 full rides? Are we sure it's not the anbryce or rtk? Afaik those aren't straight meritt scholarships. After you get accepted it's more about demonstrated commitment than having the best numbers.
I'm talking full tuition at Columbia with less than a 3.2 gpa and less than a 164 LSAT.

Holy shit. Good for you. And the reason you don't aim for a higher score is precisely because you can get into Columbia with a GPA < 3.2 and an LSAT < a 164. Don't be surprised if you don't do as well as others in your class -- including URMs -- who had the numbers to attend Columbia without the boost.
Then again, I am sure if you had the incentive to have scored higher, you would have retaken and (likely) scored higher. And that's the (main) point I have been trying to make all along.
:roll: shut the fuck up forever.

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YCDAACH wrote:
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YCDAACH wrote:URM, slightly new TLS poster and lurker. I spent almost my entire undergraduate life thinking I would go to a regional law school. I took the LSAT in October of my senior year and I have a 3.67 gpa. It wasn't until December of my senior year that I understood the AA boost. For the 2010 entering class there were only 63 African American students who had an LSAT score of 165+ and a gpa of 3.5+. After figuring that out, I blanketed the whole T-14. I have gotten into a couple, wait listed from some, no huge scholarships yet, but I'm still waiting patiently to see how this cycle might turn out. Now that I know what position I am in I am considering retaking the LSAT and re-applying next cycle. But I also have AA friends who have LSAT's slightly lower than mine and gpa's lower than mine who got full-ride at T6's.

I think many AA's aren't fully aware of the AA boost, so they give up or settle before even really starting the process. Also AA applicants may get into a T-14 school, but the money may not be there for them if they are in the bottom percentile's for the schools they are getting into, so they may go to a lower tier school where they can get $$.
What kind of numbers are we talking for these t6 full rides? Are we sure it's not the anbryce or rtk? Afaik those aren't straight meritt scholarships. After you get accepted it's more about demonstrated commitment than having the best numbers.
I'm talking full tuition at Columbia with less than a 3.2 gpa and less than a 164 LSAT.
The fuck? Yo 3.29 173 AA male here. Where the fuck is my Hamilton.

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^congrats to your friend. If they got into Columbia, then they in fact have the numbers for the law school!

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Joeant you've been ignorant this entire thread, refusing to think about the disparity of minority representation in law schools in any critical form EVEN when other posters told you how.

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Another1 wrote: :roll: shut the fuck up forever.
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YCDAACH wrote: I think many AA's aren't fully aware of the AA boost, so they give up or settle before even really starting the process. Also AA applicants may get into a T-14 school, but the money may not be there for them if they are in the bottom percentile's for the schools they are getting into, so they may go to a lower tier school where they can get $$.
This has surprisingly been my experience as well. Many AAs I've spoken to seem to be unaware of the fact that they are eligible for the almighty URM boost.

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A. Nony Mouse wrote:Yet again - if it's all because black and Hispanic families don't emphasize law/higher ed, why don't they though? Is it genetic? What about blacks/Hispanics makes them law averse?
joeant, how about you answer this? And you're not allowed to answer "culture" without actually explaining what causes that culture.

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Wrt to the lower scores thing, if AAs/Hispanics don't score higher bc they don't need to to get in, then how do you reconcile that with the idea that they're less qualified and therefore do less well in elite schools? You're suggesting that if they took the LSAT more times they'd get higher scores, which suggests they're no less qualified than white students who just take it more times, right?

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Have you really spoken with every black and Hispanic applicant on this subject?

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A. Nony Mouse wrote:Have you really spoken with every black and Hispanic applicant on this subject?
This. His comment was absurd. There's people who certainly know, then there's those who have a fuzzy idea that being black may help, but even then I know a couple of the latter who refused to apply to certain top schools because their stats were "significantly below median".

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