Rutgers v Penn State V Northeastern Forum

[questionsasked]

I'd appreciate opinions!

Comparable scholarship offers at the three schools.

[jeremydc]

We need more information about your goals/expectations, location preference, etc.

[questionsasked]

We need more information about your goals/expectations, location preference, etc.

Northeastern is in Boston, a great city, but expensive. They don't have numerical grades... are employers okay with that? Since it doesn't rank, I've heard many places don't want to see evaluations.

Penn State seems like they have alum everywhere. Does this translate into job prospects outside the state of Pennsylvania? There isn't a large legal market close to the University Park Campus.

Rutgers is based in NJ- does the name travel? The alumni base seems active within the state.

Pros and cons for each of the campus locations. For practicing, I'd like to stay on the East Coast. I have a few fields I'm looking at, so I'd like to go to a school with a lot of options. I don't want to take three years of corporate law only to not find a job in corporate and not have other experience. I'd prefer if the name could travel but I'm not sure about recognition outside of the school's respective states.

161, once, and 3.8, if that helps. (?)

[Mullens]

That doesn't answer the question posed or provide any of the information requested in the sticky at the top of the sub-forum.

[Nachoo2019]

Do you want to work in MA, NJ, or PA?

The answer to that question will be the answer to the school you should go to.

Also, COA would really help too.

[Mullens]

Nah. OP should retake and not waste time at any of these TTTs with no real goals and a 3.8 GPA

[questionsasked]

Do you want to work in MA, NJ, or PA?

The answer to that question will be the answer to the school you should go to.

Also, COA would really help too.

I'd most likely work in the state I go to school in, but I'd like the possibility of the name being able to travel. I will be staying on the East Coast.

I have full tuition and I'm in the process of figuring out the exact COA without that.


(Thank you for your response.)

[psu2016]

Nah. OP should retake and not waste time at any of these TTTs with no real goals and a 3.8 GPA

The no real goals, and the inability to answer the very simple question, "What state do you want to practice in?" are sufficient to grant summary judgment in favor of Mullens. OP is remanded for proceedings not inconsistent with this opinion.

[TheRealSantaClaus]

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[somethingElse]

Retake until your new thread topic is Penn v Northwestern.

He/she already has the legit Penn in this thread topic though.

[lnh819]

While I'd be wary of Penn State during their transition period, it might be ok if you choose the campus near Harrisburg. Harrisburg should have internship and employment opportunities as the capital city. Neither Penn State campus is likely to get you anything but a $45-60k year job somewhere in (central) Pennsylvania - and you might have serious issues ever working outside the state.

I'd steer clear of Northeastern. There are a good 6-7 law schools in Boston - plus other places like Yale feed strongly into that region. Northeastern would be in the bottom of that pack of schools, and I can't see that ending well in a high cost of living state.

Rutgers might not be a bad choice, although Newark and Camden are both pretty undesirable cities. Outcome is probably similar to Penn State - mediocre salary and stuck in the state. Newark is near a major airport and an easy day trip to NYC, so that's a plus.

I would go on Law School Transparency and see the employment numbers for each school. If one is significantly higher/lower than the others - that could push you in some direction.

A 3.8 is a great GPA. Are you sure you don't want to retake? You don't have to go 175 or bust, but even a 165-168 could open some prospects like Fordham or Boston College/University that might have some appeal. A 168-170 would probably open Cornell and maybe even NYU, especially if you apply early in the upcoming Fall cycle.

[Clemenceau]

All of PA is very insular. I wouldn't count on going to penn state law and getting a job as a lawyer in PA if you aren't from PA/have extensive ties.

And I also wouldn't count on penn state law getting you a job outside of PA either... So you do the math.

Pretty much this:

OP should retake and not waste time at any of these TTTs with no real goals and a 3.8 GPA

[questionsasked]

I would go on Law School Transparency and see the employment numbers for each school. If one is significantly higher/lower than the others - that could push you in some direction.

A 3.8 is a great GPA. Are you sure you don't want to retake? You don't have to go 175 or bust, but even a 165-168 could open some prospects like Fordham or Boston College/University that might have some appeal. A 168-170 would probably open Cornell and maybe even NYU, especially if you apply early in the upcoming Fall cycle.

Thank you for your response. I'm coming from a school that is not very well known, which may hurt me even though I have a good GPA. Additionally, a big factor for me is scholarship. These schools would cover their tuition for me, so I'm debating if a higher LSAT would get me into higher ranked schools with scholarships, or just get me in those schools.

[Dr. Nefario]

I would go on Law School Transparency and see the employment numbers for each school. If one is significantly higher/lower than the others - that could push you in some direction.

A 3.8 is a great GPA. Are you sure you don't want to retake? You don't have to go 175 or bust, but even a 165-168 could open some prospects like Fordham or Boston College/University that might have some appeal. A 168-170 would probably open Cornell and maybe even NYU, especially if you apply early in the upcoming Fall cycle.

Thank you for your response. I'm coming from a school that is not very well known, which may hurt me even though I have a good GPA. Additionally, a big factor for me is scholarship. These schools would cover their tuition for me, so I'm debating if a higher LSAT would get me into higher ranked schools with scholarships, or just get me in those schools.

Plain and simple yes, yes it will.

Also, what school you come from does not matter, all that matters is UGPA. Harvard 3.8 in Business is no better than a Hillsdale College 3.8 in philosophy from admissions standpoints. (Job prospects later may be sightly helped, but for LS admissions and scholarships they are the same.)