Cardozo v. Emory for BIGLAW NYC Forum

[dayanam]

I'm trying to figure out the best school based on biglaw placement in NYC. I got a 10k scholarship from Cardozo. However, I'm not factoring that into my decision. I would love to go down south so relocating for 3 years isn't an issue. Cardozo told me that plenty of grads get biglaw jobs... but the statistics show like 20%. However, many Emory grads get biglaw in Atlanta and DC. So I'm not sure how many actually get Biglaw jobs in NYC. I'm trying to make a decision and just don't know what's best.

I want to work in BIGLAW in NYC after law school.
I don't mind paying sticker. And I'm not factoring in COL.

Anyone have any thoughts on what would be a better option?

Thanks in advance!!

[lymenheimer]

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[TLSDookie]

I got a 10k scholarship from Cardozo.

retake

[dayanam]

I got a 10k scholarship from Cardozo.

retake

I took it twice ... both times close family members were in the hospital so I did poorly... however the rest of my app is strong so I honestly don't want to retake.

[jrass]

You need to run the #'s and measure the risk. If 20% get it, you carry the 2, and multiply that by 5 to get 10, and then multiply 20 (the % of students who get it) by 4 to correspond with the four seasons of the NYC year to get 80, then you add the 10 to the 80, and you have a 90% shot so as long as you believe you can finish out of the bottom 10%, this is the right decision.

Worst case scenario - if you are in the bottom 10% you can always get a federal clerkship for a year or two, and go the judicial route after you finish. You'll start off as a judge in SDNY or another state court, which isn't great, but if you survive for 9 months, your baby will be born, which means you'll satisfy the Article 4 8(b)(2) requirement of having a child, which is a prerequisite to becoming a judge in NY and most of the second circuit. Then all you have to do is do a few CNN interviews and meet politicians, and you can get a supreme court seat before you're 30, then transition to big law thereafter.

[ponderingmeerkat]

You need to run the #'s and measure the risk. If 20% get it, you carry the 2, and multiply that by 5 to get 10, and then multiply 20 (the % of students who get it) by 4 to correspond with the four seasons of the NYC year to get 80, then you add the 10 to the 80, and you have a 90% shot so as long as you believe you can finish out of the bottom 10%, this is the right decision.

Worst case scenario - if you are in the bottom 10% you can always get a federal clerkship for a year or two, and go the judicial route after you finish. You'll start off as a judge in SDNY or another state court, which isn't great, but if you survive for 9 months, your baby will be born, which means you'll satisfy the Article 4 8(b)(2) requirement of having a child, which is a prerequisite to becoming a judge in NY and most of the second circuit. Then all you have to do is do a few CNN interviews and meet politicians, and you can get a supreme court seat before you're 30, then transition to big law thereafter.

"I want your best advice dudemanbros"

"You need to retake."

"Don't wanna."

"K well...that's the only right answer here."

"Don't wanna!"

"Dude."

"DON'T FUCKING WANNA!"

[heythatslife]

I got a 10k scholarship from Cardozo.

retake

I took it twice ... both times close family members were in the hospital so I did poorly... however the rest of my app is strong so I honestly don't want to retake.

If anything, that's a stronger argument for retake than the other way round

[lymenheimer]

If anything, that's a stronger argument for retake than the other way round

Well, maybe his Logical Reasoning skills are wonky. Perhaps he's seeing it as "Take the LSAT >> family member gets hospitalized". and if he sees it like that, then indeed statement 1 is true (LR is wonky), and he will do miserably, same as before.

[kaiser]

I got a 10k scholarship from Cardozo.

retake

I took it twice ... both times close family members were in the hospital so I did poorly... however the rest of my app is strong so I honestly don't want to retake.

I'm confused. If circumstances ever justified a retake, surely these would be the circumstances. Of course you aren't going to perform well with a family member in the hospital. So wouldn't it be worthwhile to take the exam without having to worry about a hospitalized family member?

[Mikey]

That's basically paying sticker at Cardozo which is NOT something you want to do. Either way, who ever told you that plenty of students from dozo get biglaw is a liar. 20% is WAY too generous, more like 8-10%.

"I don't mind paying sticker". This is a very very bad decision for both Emory and Cardozo (10k/yr is practically sticker imo..).

If you're only getting 10k from Cardozo, you really should retake.

[TLSDookie]

If anything, that's a stronger argument for retake than the other way round

Well, maybe his Logical Reasoning skills are wonky. Perhaps he's seeing it as "Take the LSAT >> family member gets hospitalized". and if he sees it like that, then indeed statement 1 is true (LR is wonky), and he will do miserably, same as before.

/thread

[jrass]

I got a 10k scholarship from Cardozo.

retake

I took it twice ... both times close family members were in the hospital so I did poorly... however the rest of my app is strong so I honestly don't want to retake.

In The Usual Suspects when Kaiser Soze's close family members' well being affected his ability to succeed, he terminated them. Walmart, aisle 12, a photo ID, $300 cash and a shovel, and Fordham could be yours.