Cardozo V. St. John's v Fordham Forum

[Chrissy1018]

Hi everyone! any help would be greatly appreciated. I have a full ride to both Cardozo and St. John's but I can't decide which would be better. I am also waiting to hear back from Fordham but don't think that I would get that much money from them if accepted, so my two backup schools are Cardozo and St. John's. My top choice career path is entertainment law and then second choice would be IP. Thanks!

[Mikey]

Hi everyone! any help would be greatly appreciated. I have a full ride to both Cardozo and St. John's but I can't decide which would be better. I am also waiting to hear back from Fordham but don't think that I would get that much money from them if accepted, so my two backup schools are Cardozo and St. John's. My top choice career path is entertainment law and then second choice would be IP. Thanks!

What is your LSAT score? GPA? How many times have you taken the LSAT? What would your COL be?

People on here will all tell you to retake the LSAT and to not attend any of these schools. But from what I've seen, a lot of people don't listen. IF there are NO stipulations for keeping your scholarships at either school, I will have to say Cardozo. Other than that, wait for Fordham to get back to you and see if they give you some money or retake the LSAT.

[Chrissy1018]

Hi everyone! any help would be greatly appreciated. I have a full ride to both Cardozo and St. John's but I can't decide which would be better. I am also waiting to hear back from Fordham but don't think that I would get that much money from them if accepted, so my two backup schools are Cardozo and St. John's. My top choice career path is entertainment law and then second choice would be IP. Thanks!

What is your LSAT score? GPA? How many times have you taken the LSAT? What would your COL be?

People on here will all tell you to retake the LSAT and to not attend any of these schools. But from what I've seen, a lot of people don't listen. IF there are NO stipulations for keeping your scholarships at either school, I will have to say Cardozo. Other than that, wait for Fordham to get back to you and see if they give you some money or retake the LSAT.

i live in brooklyn with my mom so my COL would be very low
everyone on another thread of mine have been saying to retake. took twice already. cancelled the first and 162 on the second.
3.7 GPA. Cardozo has no stipulations. St. John's have to be 80% of the class.
I am very hesitate to re-take the LSAT. My highest Practice score was a 168 but it was on a test that I had previously taken. my lowest was a 158 for my most recent study cycle. but that was a bad day. I was ranging between 162-166 for the most part. Studied for over a year trying various methods. Worried about having a bad day on test day or bad section and just blowing it. I have seen both happen to people. even the possibility of messing up the scantron. I took it both time at brooklyn college. the first time I had an amazing room, the second I had a 4 inch wide desk lol

Boston College just gave me 21K a year.

[trebekismyhero]

Entertainment law is something that you only get at boutiques or some big law firms. That means none of these would really work. IP is good, but do you have a science degree from undergrad?

You lose nothing by retaking and can only gain in scholarship money. $21k from BC is not enough, still too much debt.

And if you aren't going to retake, go with Cardozo and keep living with your mom to save $.

Edit: Just saw your other thread. You need to listen to those folks. While it is possible to get soft IP without a science degree, you need to focus on it and have top grades. What you seem to want, you really need to go to a top school for. I retook the LSAT three times and I worked full time. It can be done.

[Chrissy1018]

Entertainment law is something that you only get at boutiques or some big law firms. That means none of these would really work. IP is good, but do you have a science degree from undergrad?

You lose nothing by retaking and can only gain in scholarship money. $21k from BC is not enough, still too much debt.

And if you aren't going to retake, go with Cardozo and keep living with your mom to save $.

Edit: Just saw your other thread. You need to listen to those folks. While it is possible to get soft IP without a science degree, you need to focus on it and have top grades. What you seem to want, you really need to go to a top school for. I retook the LSAT three times and I worked full time. It can be done.

What school are you in/got into/went to? There's so much that can happen though on test day to throw someone off. Can someone reapply with the same essays? Does it look bad to stay the same in score or worse decrease? I Do not want to wait another year to start school and would be ok with 75-80k in debt if I got into Fordham. I don't know if I would be able to pull my score up high enough to get into NYU or Columbia. Also no science background but Cardozo has a ten IP program and also has their fashion arts media and entertainment program. A friend of mine is also applying to schools and she works for HBO she says it's all about the networking and putting yourself out there

[trebekismyhero]

Entertainment law is something that you only get at boutiques or some big law firms. That means none of these would really work. IP is good, but do you have a science degree from undergrad?

You lose nothing by retaking and can only gain in scholarship money. $21k from BC is not enough, still too much debt.

And if you aren't going to retake, go with Cardozo and keep living with your mom to save $.

Edit: Just saw your other thread. You need to listen to those folks. While it is possible to get soft IP without a science degree, you need to focus on it and have top grades. What you seem to want, you really need to go to a top school for. I retook the LSAT three times and I worked full time. It can be done.

What school are you in/got into/went to? There's so much that can happen though on test day to throw someone off. Can someone reapply with the same essays? Does it look bad to stay the same in score or worse decrease? I Do not want to wait another year to start school and would be ok with 75-80k in debt if I got into Fordham. I don't know if I would be able to pull my score up high enough to get into NYU or Columbia. Also no science background but Cardozo has a ten IP program and also has their fashion arts media and entertainment program. A friend of mine is also applying to schools and she works for HBO she says it's all about the networking and putting yourself out there

I graduated from my state flagship on a full ride, now doing big law. Obviously there is a lot that can happen on test day, but law school grades are decided by one test in each class. There is literally no downside to retaking, schools only take your highest score. As I said I took it three times and it was the best decision I made, if I had gone after my first score I would have had much more debt.

Getting a full ride to Fordham would be a good outcome too and you only need a few more points for that. Cardozo's IP ranking does not matter.

Networking matters a lot, but most of the legal jobs that entertainment companies hire for are not straight from law school. They are usually people with at least a couple years experience at big law firms. At Cardozo that isn't impossible, it just isn't likely.

[Chrissy1018]

Entertainment law is something that you only get at boutiques or some big law firms. That means none of these would really work. IP is good, but do you have a science degree from undergrad?

You lose nothing by retaking and can only gain in scholarship money. $21k from BC is not enough, still too much debt.

And if you aren't going to retake, go with Cardozo and keep living with your mom to save $.

Edit: Just saw your other thread. You need to listen to those folks. While it is possible to get soft IP without a science degree, you need to focus on it and have top grades. What you seem to want, you really need to go to a top school for. I retook the LSAT three times and I worked full time. It can be done.

What school are you in/got into/went to? There's so much that can happen though on test day to throw someone off. Can someone reapply with the same essays? Does it look bad to stay the same in score or worse decrease? I Do not want to wait another year to start school and would be ok with 75-80k in debt if I got into Fordham. I don't know if I would be able to pull my score up high enough to get into NYU or Columbia. Also no science background but Cardozo has a ten IP program and also has their fashion arts media and entertainment program. A friend of mine is also applying to schools and she works for HBO she says it's all about the networking and putting yourself out there

I graduated from my state flagship on a full ride, now doing big law. Obviously there is a lot that can happen on test day, but law school grades are decided by one test in each class. There is literally no downside to retaking, schools only take your highest score. As I said I took it three times and it was the best decision I made, if I had gone after my first score I would have had much more debt.

Getting a full ride to Fordham would be a good outcome too and you only need a few more points for that. Cardozo's IP ranking does not matter.

Networking matters a lot, but most of the legal jobs that entertainment companies hire for are not straight from law school. They are usually people with at least a couple years experience at big law firms. At Cardozo that isn't impossible, it just isn't likely.

I love the idea of doing entertainment law but do not want to let myself be sucked into one small sector. I would be comfortable with some debt from Fordham, as long as it is under 90K. They have around a third of their school going into big law.
What school do you go to and what were your score if you don't mind me asking?

[Mikey]

Entertainment law is something that you only get at boutiques or some big law firms. That means none of these would really work. IP is good, but do you have a science degree from undergrad?

You lose nothing by retaking and can only gain in scholarship money. $21k from BC is not enough, still too much debt.

And if you aren't going to retake, go with Cardozo and keep living with your mom to save $.

Edit: Just saw your other thread. You need to listen to those folks. While it is possible to get soft IP without a science degree, you need to focus on it and have top grades. What you seem to want, you really need to go to a top school for. I retook the LSAT three times and I worked full time. It can be done.

What school are you in/got into/went to? There's so much that can happen though on test day to throw someone off. Can someone reapply with the same essays? Does it look bad to stay the same in score or worse decrease? I Do not want to wait another year to start school and would be ok with 75-80k in debt if I got into Fordham. I don't know if I would be able to pull my score up high enough to get into NYU or Columbia. Also no science background but Cardozo has a ten IP program and also has their fashion arts media and entertainment program. A friend of mine is also applying to schools and she works for HBO she says it's all about the networking and putting yourself out there

I graduated from my state flagship on a full ride, now doing big law. Obviously there is a lot that can happen on test day, but law school grades are decided by one test in each class. There is literally no downside to retaking, schools only take your highest score. As I said I took it three times and it was the best decision I made, if I had gone after my first score I would have had much more debt.

Getting a full ride to Fordham would be a good outcome too and you only need a few more points for that. Cardozo's IP ranking does not matter.

Networking matters a lot, but most of the legal jobs that entertainment companies hire for are not straight from law school. They are usually people with at least a couple years experience at big law firms. At Cardozo that isn't impossible, it just isn't likely.

I love the idea of doing entertainment law but do not want to let myself be sucked into one small sector. I would be comfortable with some debt from Fordham, as long as it is under 90K. They have around a third of their school going into big law.
What school do you go to and what were your score if you don't mind me asking?

Fordham is very known to be stingy when giving scholarship money. Honestly, I think you will get a very small amount of money, if any at all, from Fordham with a 3.7 and 162.