Help choosing schools Forum

[CousinBo]

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[Nagster5]

GWU has <20% biglaw, it's your best shot from those schools, but DC biglaw is notoriously difficult to break into and a pretty big black box. Even if you could be sure you'd get top ~20% at GWU it's a crap shoot, and the degree is not T14 portable, >20% of their grads are unemployed. The problem with GWU is that it is a very strong regional, it's just in the region that is by far the most competitive. If you get into UT they are incredible for the price and dominate several large markets, and if you include CoL you'd be close to breaking even with 60k at GWU even at sticker.

[BigZuck]

None of the schools you have been accepted to give you an acceptable chance at big law. It's debatable whether UT/Vandy do either, Michigan you'd probably be fine but you would be paying much too much at all 3 schools.

What is your GPA/LSAT?

Right now you're trying to stuff a square peg into a round hole. You're going to either need a rounder peg (better numbers) or a squarer hole (different goals).

Geography is going to need to start mattering to you because it tends to matter a lot to employers. Once you get outside of the biggest markets they tend to not take too kindly to carpetbaggers.

[CousinBo]

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[splitterfromhell]

GWU has <20% biglaw, it's your best shot from those schools, but DC biglaw is notoriously difficult to break into and a pretty big black box. Even if you could be sure you'd get top ~20% at GWU it's a crap shoot, and the degree is not T14 portable, >20% of their grads are unemployed. The problem with GWU is that it is a very strong regional, it's just in the region that is by far the most competitive. If you get into UT they are incredible for the price and dominate several large markets, and if you include CoL you'd be close to breaking even with 60k at GWU even at sticker.

Where are you getting that from?

[jrass]

I would go with Temple given these options. You should also consider that GW is going to be almost as competitive as Penn but with substantially less slices of pie to go around. Temple gives you some chance at big law, isn't going to be as competitive and also minimizes your risk.

[Mullens]

What's your GPA/LSATs and when can you retake?

[03152016]

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[Nagster5]

GWU has <20% biglaw, it's your best shot from those schools, but DC biglaw is notoriously difficult to break into and a pretty big black box. Even if you could be sure you'd get top ~20% at GWU it's a crap shoot, and the degree is not T14 portable, >20% of their grads are unemployed. The problem with GWU is that it is a very strong regional, it's just in the region that is by far the most competitive. If you get into UT they are incredible for the price and dominate several large markets, and if you include CoL you'd be close to breaking even with 60k at GWU even at sticker.

Where are you getting that from?

Law School Transparency, 19.4%

[splitterfromhell]

GWU has <20% biglaw, it's your best shot from those schools, but DC biglaw is notoriously difficult to break into and a pretty big black box. Even if you could be sure you'd get top ~20% at GWU it's a crap shoot, and the degree is not T14 portable, >20% of their grads are unemployed. The problem with GWU is that it is a very strong regional, it's just in the region that is by far the most competitive. If you get into UT they are incredible for the price and dominate several large markets, and if you include CoL you'd be close to breaking even with 60k at GWU even at sticker.

Where are you getting that from?

Law School Transparency, 19.4%

I'm seeing 28.6%.

[Clearly]

PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING IN THIS FORUM:

In order to receive the best feedback in this forum, please provide as much of the following information in your original post as possible:

-The schools you are considering
-The total Cost of Attendance (COA) of each. COA = cost of tuition + fees + books + cost of living (COL) + accumulated interest - scholarships. Here is a helpful calculator.
-How you will be financing your COA, i.e. loans, family, or savings
-Where you are from and where you want to work, and other places where you have significant ties (if any)
-Your general career goals
-Your LSAT/GPA numbers
-How many times you have taken the LSAT

[Clearly]

Also, for no reason other than a hunch (so disregard if I'm wrong), I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess you didn't actually take the LSAT 3 times yet. If I'm right, please tell me so I can bask in my psychic hunch accuracy.

[JuliusCaesar]

Also, for no reason other than a hunch (so disregard if I'm wrong), I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess you didn't actually take the LSAT 3 times yet. If I'm right, please tell me so I can bask in my psychic hunch accuracy.

You are just hoping he hasn't so you can post the retake graphic..lol

[acr]

I would not advocate attending UT at sticker. But that's just me.

[Clearly]

Also, for no reason other than a hunch (so disregard if I'm wrong), I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess you didn't actually take the LSAT 3 times yet. If I'm right, please tell me so I can bask in my psychic hunch accuracy.

You are just hoping he hasn't so you can post the retake graphic..lol

Nope, I'm a man of honest advice, so often the right advice is retake so I made that, but if it's not the right call it doesn't get posted! My guess was based on the precision with which he mentioned 3 takes without actually disclosing any scores. Kind of a can't retake leave me alone vibe. Of course I could be and prob am wrong, but I've seen it done before!

[BigZuck]

I would not advocate attending UT at sticker. But that's just me.

It's not just you

Anyway, yeah, this Clearly feels like a lying about taking the LSAT 3 times scenario

[CousinBo]

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[Clearly]

Also, for no reason other than a hunch (so disregard if I'm wrong), I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess you didn't actually take the LSAT 3 times yet. If I'm right, please tell me so I can bask in my psychic hunch accuracy.

Sorry to disappoint but I've maxed out my attempts. 1st one September 2014, 2nd December 2014 (major under performance), 3rd October 2015. My last score is a 164, I was PTing between 164-168.

I'm kinda apprehensive posting too much information on the forum.

Aw shucks, sucks for both of us! Like I said, I wasn't super confident in that guess, but thanks for resolving that hunch.

FWIW I have a friend who did the same thing and crushed his 4th take and went to CCN, but I understand the apprehension at this point.

[Clearly]

I would not advocate attending UT at sticker. But that's just me.

It's not just you

Anyway, yeah, this Clearly feels like a lying about taking the LSAT 3 times scenario

I see what you did here, and I approve.