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Re: Handy list for splitters (or; which schools care about the LSAT)
Good to see some of my hopeful schools on here, I'm pretty confident with the LSAT but ate a couple bad semesters. So yay, good vibes and all that.
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Re: Handy list for splitters (or; which schools care about the LSAT)
Curious as to your methodology
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- Clemenceau

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Re: Handy list for splitters (or; which schools care about the LSAT)
There are way too many law schools
- PrezRand

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Re: Handy list for splitters (or; which schools care about the LSAT)
Based on this, it seems like a lot of the top schools care more about GPA than your LSAT. High school all over again lol
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Re: Handy list for splitters (or; which schools care about the LSAT)
(lists every school)
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PoopNpants

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Re: Handy list for splitters (or; which schools care about the LSAT)
Gee, I didn't know Campbell law school cared more about LSAT score than the University of Iowa law school. Thanks for making this thread!
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Re: Handy list for splitters (or; which schools care about the LSAT)
There are schools missing from your list
NU being at the bottom is the most wrong thing
NU being at the bottom is the most wrong thing
- Mack.Hambleton

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Re: Handy list for splitters (or; which schools care about the LSAT)
Ya NW is literally the most splitter friendly T14
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Re: Handy list for splitters (or; which schools care about the LSAT)
This is all assuming that schools actually follow their index score.
I think also a lot of the TTTs being at the top just reveals how desperate they are for LSAT scores, not necessarily that they care more about LSAT than other schools.
Edit: Also for what it's worth, not all T14s (I think only Stanford, Berkeley, Cornell, Columbia, Northwestern, Georgetown, Duke) publish their index scores, and of those, Stanford, Berkeley, and Duke are all, according to this list, more GPA-focused than Northwestern, leaving only Cornell, Columbia, and Georgetown as being more LSAT-focused than Northwestern, which, although it goes against conventional TLS wisdom, it generally not far from reality. Northwestern is also very reverse splitter-friendly. Additionally, your methodology is correct. I think the discrepancy is created by the disparity in the amount of weight that schools put into their index scores. Some might almost entirely rely on them whereas others may be more holistic.
Edit 2: It is also worth noting that while your methodology is technically correct, it implies something a little different than you are saying. To use econ terminology, it implies that the schools at the top of your list are more LSAT "elastic," that is, they are more responsive to a change in LSAT point than schools lower down on the list. In this situation, that is different than saying they value LSAT more, because the LSAT scale is different than the GPA scale. Mostly importantly, the difference in GPA values is not the same as the difference in LSAT values. There are 180 LSAT points (and only 60 are possible) but 433 GPA "points." For almost every school, there are, at most, 20 or so LSAT points that will be considered and around 150 GPA "points."This range for LSAT becomes even smaller near the median (GPA too, but less so). This responsiveness to the LSAT median is likely built into certain schools' index scores more than other index scores.
So while you are correct in the general notion that, at least according to their index scores, the schools near the top of the list factor in LSAT differently than the schools near the bottom, it is more accurate to characterize it as those schools at the top being more responsive to a 1-point LSAT increase relative to a 0.01 GPA increase than the schools at the bottom of the list.
I think also a lot of the TTTs being at the top just reveals how desperate they are for LSAT scores, not necessarily that they care more about LSAT than other schools.
Edit: Also for what it's worth, not all T14s (I think only Stanford, Berkeley, Cornell, Columbia, Northwestern, Georgetown, Duke) publish their index scores, and of those, Stanford, Berkeley, and Duke are all, according to this list, more GPA-focused than Northwestern, leaving only Cornell, Columbia, and Georgetown as being more LSAT-focused than Northwestern, which, although it goes against conventional TLS wisdom, it generally not far from reality. Northwestern is also very reverse splitter-friendly. Additionally, your methodology is correct. I think the discrepancy is created by the disparity in the amount of weight that schools put into their index scores. Some might almost entirely rely on them whereas others may be more holistic.
Edit 2: It is also worth noting that while your methodology is technically correct, it implies something a little different than you are saying. To use econ terminology, it implies that the schools at the top of your list are more LSAT "elastic," that is, they are more responsive to a change in LSAT point than schools lower down on the list. In this situation, that is different than saying they value LSAT more, because the LSAT scale is different than the GPA scale. Mostly importantly, the difference in GPA values is not the same as the difference in LSAT values. There are 180 LSAT points (and only 60 are possible) but 433 GPA "points." For almost every school, there are, at most, 20 or so LSAT points that will be considered and around 150 GPA "points."This range for LSAT becomes even smaller near the median (GPA too, but less so). This responsiveness to the LSAT median is likely built into certain schools' index scores more than other index scores.
So while you are correct in the general notion that, at least according to their index scores, the schools near the top of the list factor in LSAT differently than the schools near the bottom, it is more accurate to characterize it as those schools at the top being more responsive to a 1-point LSAT increase relative to a 0.01 GPA increase than the schools at the bottom of the list.
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