Yale vs Harvard (BigLaw) Forum
- RedColossus
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Yale vs Harvard (BigLaw)
As someone not entirely sure what kind of law I want to practice, I do know that I want to keep big law on the table. That being said, I see job placement with big law seems to be dominated by every T14 except for Yale. I've seen people say that it is self-selection, but I want to know what others think.
Please don't hate for me asking the stereotypical Harvard vs. Yale crap, I genuinely just want to know if a Yale grad actually has as good or better opportunities to work in big law, or if everyone being aware of the culture of Yale and the willingness of their students to turn down big law leads to firms to recruit there less and your chances of big law, even if that is what you want to do by your first or second year, go down considerably.
I definitely am interested in potential public interest law or even academia (though not strongly leaning towards the latter), and I know Yale definitely has a leg up on these. I merely want to know if I went there whether I would be sacrificing future chances at big law, and if so, to what extent.
Thanks!
Please don't hate for me asking the stereotypical Harvard vs. Yale crap, I genuinely just want to know if a Yale grad actually has as good or better opportunities to work in big law, or if everyone being aware of the culture of Yale and the willingness of their students to turn down big law leads to firms to recruit there less and your chances of big law, even if that is what you want to do by your first or second year, go down considerably.
I definitely am interested in potential public interest law or even academia (though not strongly leaning towards the latter), and I know Yale definitely has a leg up on these. I merely want to know if I went there whether I would be sacrificing future chances at big law, and if so, to what extent.
Thanks!
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Re: Yale vs Harvard (BigLaw)
It's easier to get biglaw from Yale than any other school.
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Yale's lower biglaw placement 9 months after graduation is 100% self selection. A huge chunk of the class lands A3 clerkships, and that's why the biglaw numbers are lower.
You would not be sacrificing anything if you had the privilege to attend Yale.
You would not be sacrificing anything if you had the privilege to attend Yale.
- RedColossus
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That's all fantastic to hear, and what I was assuming. I guess a lot of nerves just come with finally deciding where you are going to attend, but Yale sounds like an absolutely incredible place, with the quintessential academic environment.
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This tells me that either HLS or YLS will work.RedColossus wrote:That's all fantastic to hear, and what I was assuming. I guess a lot of nerves just come with finally deciding where you are going to attend, but Yale sounds like an absolutely incredible place, with the quintessential academic environment.
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Re: Yale vs Harvard (BigLaw)
Harvard is better if you want to learn the law for the sake of practice and view law school as a step in that direction. Yale is better if you use phrases like quintessential academic environment in ordinary conversation.
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This is true.Julius wrote:Harvard is better if you want to learn the law for the sake of practice and view law school as a step in that direction. Yale is better if you use phrases like quintessential academic environment in ordinary conversation.
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(went to harvard and secretly weeps wondering what might have been at yale)Julius wrote:Harvard is better if you want to learn the law for the sake of practice and view law school as a step in that direction. Yale is better if you use phrases like quintessential academic environment in ordinary conversation.
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Yeah, seriously.utahraptor wrote:(went to harvard and secretly weeps wondering what might have been at yale)Julius wrote:Harvard is better if you want to learn the law for the sake of practice and view law school as a step in that direction. Yale is better if you use phrases like quintessential academic environment in ordinary conversation.
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- Elston Gunn
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Okay, I read it. This can be easily answered with the search function, but yes, it is self-selection. It is genuinely not an exaggeration that you could take all your exams drunk and likely land a Vault 20 firm in NYC from Yale.RedColossus wrote:As someone not entirely sure what kind of law I want to practice, I do know that I want to keep big law on the table. That being said, I see job placement with big law seems to be dominated by every T14 except for Yale. I've seen people say that it is self-selection, but I want to know what others think.
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Re: Yale vs Harvard (BigLaw)
I thought the TLS answer to "Y vs. H?" was "CCN with $$."
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I'd use the term quintessential academic environment in ordinary conversation. I went to neither school.Dirigo wrote:Yeah, seriously.utahraptor wrote:(went to harvard and secretly weeps wondering what might have been at yale)Julius wrote:Harvard is better if you want to learn the law for the sake of practice and view law school as a step in that direction. Yale is better if you use phrases like quintessential academic environment in ordinary conversation.
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If generic biglaw is the goal, T14 $$$$ > HYS.RZ5646 wrote:I thought the TLS answer to "Y vs. H?" was "CCN with $$."
This OP had a more nuanced question and mentioned academia & public interest, with the concern not being to foreclose on a biglaw opportunity by going to Yale.
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You missed the point. But if you went to neither then why are you speaking on intangibles with such authority?Julius wrote:I'd use the term quintessential academic environment in ordinary conversation. I went to neither school.Dirigo wrote:Yeah, seriously.utahraptor wrote:(went to harvard and secretly weeps wondering what might have been at yale)Julius wrote:Harvard is better if you want to learn the law for the sake of practice and view law school as a step in that direction. Yale is better if you use phrases like quintessential academic environment in ordinary conversation.
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No, I didn't. It was obvious. I ignored it and provided clarification for the OP--I didn't mean it as a slight to OP.Dirigo wrote: You missed the point. But if you went to neither then why are you speaking on intangibles with such authority?
Why are you speaking with such authority? I know Yale and Harvard grads from school and practice and have had discussions with them. Speaking generally, they are different people with different academic experiences and strengths.
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