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grizzlybear · Post by **grizzlybear** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:22 pm

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whereskyle · Post by **whereskyle** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:26 pm

ED NU.

LoganCouture · Post by **LoganCouture** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:29 pm

grizzlybear · Post by **grizzlybear** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:35 pm

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beachbum · Post by **beachbum** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:47 pm

Duke, UVA, and Northwestern (apparently TLS is pro-Northwestern now?) are interchangeable for NY biglaw. Retaking is the smart call here, but, barring that, pick the one that offers the best personal fit and go from there.

(Duke grad.)

Br3v · Post by **Br3v** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:48 pm

I'm a few years out of the game, but isn't a 3.8 169 good enough for Duke/UVA regular decision?

twenty · Post by **twenty** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:13 pm

I would ED at NYU. You'll very likely get Duke via RD, and you're close to guaranteed at Cornell. If you find your cycle isn't going especially well come December, then ED to UVA.

UnicornHunter · Post by **UnicornHunter** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:17 pm

Don't do anything until you've applied via duke's PT program and heard back. Once you have an offer in hand (and I think you will) you'll be much less inclined to tie yourself to sticker @ wherever.

Mack.Hambleton · Post by **Mack.Hambleton** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:17 pm

retake

Trout et al · Post by **Trout et al** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:21 pm

Ya apply Duke PT. Get an early acceptance then blanket the T14. Visit each school and talk to students to get a feel for cultures.

LoganCouture · Post by **LoganCouture** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:54 pm

beachbum · Post by **beachbum** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:22 pm

lc39 wrote:
beachbum wrote:Duke, UVA, and Northwestern (apparently TLS is pro-Northwestern now?) are interchangeable for NY biglaw. Retaking is the smart call here, but, barring that, pick the one that offers the best personal fit and go from there.

(Duke grad.)

I think TLS is pro-Northwestern since everyone admitted ED gets that sweet, sweet scholarship $$$$.

Hell, I received scholarship money as an ED admit to Duke. ED eliminates any negotiating leverage you might have had (I had none, so no worries), but it doesn't necessarily guarantee sticker price. In any case, though, I think the move here (assuming no retake) is to follow the advice already given and apply RD to these schools.

grizzlybear · Post by **grizzlybear** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:29 pm

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Ramius · Post by **Ramius** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:34 pm

grizzlybear wrote:I'm now leaning towards applying RD, or at least waiting on any ED until I hear back from duke pt, but I'm still skeptical of my RD chances at duke....

LSN has kids getting rejected and waitlisted with my numbers and I'm very risk averse..

You'll get one of MVPBDCNG, which will give you a roughly similar chance of NY Biglaw, so what's the problem here when COA isn't an issue?

Take what you get and move on, pretty simple.

BigZuck · Post by **BigZuck** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:50 pm

Br3v wrote:I'm a few years out of the game, but isn't a 3.8 169 good enough for Duke/UVA regular decision?

Our cycle I was accepted RD at Duke and got 90K and wait listed and later accepted with 60K at UVA with slightly lower numbers.

OP- don't ED to Duke or UVA, that would be a terrible decision. Also make sure you retake the LSAT again, twice if you have to. Not retaking would also be a terrible decision. Don't be that guy, you're better than that.

whereskyle · Post by **whereskyle** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:54 pm

Get that NU money. It's just too easy. Or retake.

grizzlybear · Post by **grizzlybear** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:08 pm

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BigZuck · Post by **BigZuck** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:28 pm

grizzlybear wrote:With regards to retaking, it is a very real possibility that I do worse. I was signed up for the June LSAT and I was getting like 167s on practice tests, so I decided against it.

Doesn't matter, schools won't care. The very real possibility that you do better makes it worth it.

Also, you might have to study better depending on how you approached it.

Br3v · Post by **Br3v** » Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:41 pm

BigZuck wrote:
Br3v wrote:I'm a few years out of the game, but isn't a 3.8 169 good enough for Duke/UVA regular decision?
Our cycle I was accepted RD at Duke and got 90K and wait listed and later accepted with 60K at UVA with slightly lower numbers.

OP- don't ED to Duke or UVA, that would be a terrible decision. Also make sure you retake the LSAT again, twice if you have to. Not retaking would also be a terrible decision. Don't be that guy, you're better than that.

Yeah and I know the UVA LSAT Median dropped (though class shrunk) so seems OP should be fairly solid.

Ti Malice · Post by **Ti Malice** » Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:04 am

grizzlybear wrote: Also, yes, it's a family thing, although I miiiiiiight consider COA if it's between sticker and full ride (though still not for sure). Anything less than that and it's a non factor.

grizzlybear wrote: LSN has kids getting rejected and waitlisted with my numbers and I'm very risk averse..

If you're truly this spectacularly loaded, I say fuck it, just visit UVA and Duke to see which would be the best personal fit, and then apply ED to guarantee yourself admission. Eliminate any risk of rejection and free up the scholarship money you might have received for someone who really needs it.

twenty · Post by **twenty** » Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:55 am

OP has a legitimate shot at NYU. That'd be better than either UVA or Duke for NYC biglaw.

grizzlybear · Post by **grizzlybear** » Thu Sep 11, 2014 3:58 am

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UnicornHunter · Post by **UnicornHunter** » Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:53 am

grizzlybear wrote:Not that I don't trust twenty, but do I really have a prayer at NYU or Penn? I was under the impression I needed at least a 170 171..

A 170+ wouldn't hurt, but you definitely have a prayer. More reason to get your PT app into Duke now.

jbagelboy · Post by **jbagelboy** » Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:55 pm

Penn median is 169 now, and NYU's is probably still 170 but I wouldn't be surprised if 169's became attractive soon.

I think you will regret EDing to duke or virginia and passing up the opportunity for NYU. Priority Track at Duke already provides you a quick decision. Locking yourself into UVA, money issues aside, seems like a poor play.

If I had all the $ in the world, first I'd retake, but second, I'd go to NYU - yes it's crazy expensive, but if you're DGAF then you can live in arguably the best neighborhood in the world with the best chance at an elite NY firm your LSAT allows

twenty · Post by **twenty** » Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:37 pm

grizzlybear wrote:Not that I don't trust twenty, but do I really have a prayer at NYU or Penn? I was under the impression I needed at least a 170 171..

I certainly wouldn't trust me with something like this. Go look it up yourself on mylsn and see what conclusion you come to.