Emory or Northwestern Forum

[Gregjames]

Which is better for Careers; Emory or GW?
state a reason for your opinion.
Lets also talk about Duke.

[Nova]

emory has better job prospects

see http://www.lawschooltransparency.com/

the better option is going to depend on individual cercumstances (ties, cost, goals)

neither are good options without ties & big scholarships

neither are good options if u want big law or something similarly hard to get

[Gregjames]

Are you familiar with Chicago? How about DePaul in Chicago?

[Nova]

Are you familiar with Chicago? How about DePaul in Chicago?

less than half of depaul grads get real legal jobs. & only a very small portion of the class get jobs that pay enough to comfortably pay off their student loans

http://www.lawschooltransparency.com/

•46.5% of graduates were known to be employed in long-term, full-time legal jobs. This figure includes no school-funded jobs.
•69.7% graduates were employed in long-term jobs.
•66.5% graduates were employed in full-time jobs.

http://www.lstscorereports.com/schools/ ... jobs/2013/

[Nomo]

Emory is better. But neither give very good prospects. And both cost an insane amount of money.

These schools were good options at one time. But they have been questionable choices for the last 15 years, and downright disasters for the last 7. There is no sign of that changing.

[lacrossebrother]

90% of incoming 1l's are on scharships at emory with no stips, so don't look at prices. Plus with PAYE it always makes sense to go to the school with more biglaw prospects because you'll still land on your feet if you strike out.

[Gregjames]

90% of incoming 1l's are on scharships at emory with no stips, so don't look at prices. Plus with PAYE it always makes sense to go to the school with more biglaw prospects because you'll still land on your feet if you strike out.

So how is Emory with BigLaw?
What about GW; any better?

[lacrossebrother]

90% of incoming 1l's are on scharships at emory with no stips, so don't look at prices. Plus with PAYE it always makes sense to go to the school with more biglaw prospects because you'll still land on your feet if you strike out.

So how is Emory with BigLaw?
What about GW; any better?

Emory and GW are pretty similar. Emory better for NY and ATL. GW obviously better for DC. Both basically give you about a 1/3 shot at it if you want it and 100% shot at becoming a real lawyer.

[Gregjames]

how about Emory at sticker? would that be so bad?

[cron1834]

how about Emory at sticker? would that be so bad?

Please do this. Report back in 3-4 years and advise re: results.

[Gregjames]

Where do u go to school cront?

[cron1834]

Where do u go to school cront?

Kent, sticker. But I'm from IL.

[Gregjames]

Where do u go to school cront?

Kent, sticker. But I'm from IL.

R u kidding>? be serious!

[cron1834]

Where do u go to school cront?

Kent, sticker. But I'm from IL.

R u kidding>? be serious!

Gotta have local ties. Otherwise you're going to strike out. CHI and ATL are insular legal markets dood.

[Gregjames]

Where do u go to school cront?

Kent, sticker. But I'm from IL.

R u kidding>? be serious!

Gotta have local ties. Otherwise you're going to strike out. CHI and ATL are insular legal markets dood.

Well... I have u now Cront! u r my guy in IL!

[cron1834]

Dude you are a 0L though. Too late.

[Mack.Hambleton]

checking in for gregjames thread

[Mack.Hambleton]

90% of incoming 1l's are on scharships at emory with no stips, so don't look at prices. Plus with PAYE it always makes sense to go to the school with more biglaw prospects because you'll still land on your feet if you strike out.

So how is Emory with BigLaw?
What about GW; any better?

Emory and GW are pretty similar. Emory better for NY and ATL. GW obviously better for DC. Both basically give you about a 1/3 shot at it if you want it and 100% shot at becoming a real lawyer.

underrated bad post

[Gregjames]

90% of incoming 1l's are on scharships at emory with no stips, so don't look at prices. Plus with PAYE it always makes sense to go to the school with more biglaw prospects because you'll still land on your feet if you strike out.

So how is Emory with BigLaw?
What about GW; any better?

Emory and GW are pretty similar. Emory better for NY and ATL. GW obviously better for DC. Both basically give you about a 1/3 shot at it if you want it and 100% shot at becoming a real lawyer.

underrated bad post

Bungles! elaborate

[Gregjames]

I noticed that a lot of Emory students intern in Miami. Why is that? is it bigger a market than Atlanta?

[Nomo]

90% of incoming 1l's are on scharships at emory with no stips, so don't look at prices. Plus with PAYE it always makes sense to go to the school with more biglaw prospects because you'll still land on your feet if you strike out.

So how is Emory with BigLaw?
What about GW; any better?

Emory and GW are pretty similar. Emory better for NY and ATL. GW obviously better for DC. Both basically give you about a 1/3 shot at it if you want it and 100% shot at becoming a real lawyer.

underrated bad post

I'll elaborate. Gregjames' post overrates the employment prospects from GW and Emory. Maybe he thinks all the people who don't have full time long-term employment 9 months out somehow magically get it in month 10 . . . I have no idea. And the PAYE advice just doesn't demonstrate a real understanding of PAYE. He doesn't mention the tax bomb that comes when all of your loans and all of their interest are forgiven after 20 years. He doesn't mention the president's proposal to cap public service forgiveness. He doesn't mention legislative attempts to push the 20 year deadline back to 25 years. He doesn't mention that having a large and growing student loan debt will limit your ability to buy a house, car, or even good a credit card with good rewards points. He doesn't mention the stress people have with hundreds of thousands of dollars in non-dischargable loans that you can't get out of by selling the asset they are attached to.

[Gregjames]

how PAYE actually works?

[Gregjames]

Northwestern at sticker?

[lacrossebrother]

It was me who made the post not Greg. Please share with us the actual 9 month stats on those schools minus people who clearly don't want to be lawyers (likely 3-8% of any class). Then also please share the consensus view on what will happen to the forgiveness bomb. Last please explain why anyone would care about ability to get a mortgage when renting has become so commonplace?

[Nomo]

It was me who made the post not Greg. Please share with us the actual 9 month stats on those schools minus people who clearly don't want to be lawyers (likely 3-8% of any class). Then also please share the consensus view on what will happen to the forgiveness bomb. Last please explain why anyone would care about ability to get a mortgage when renting has become so commonplace?

Ah sorry about that.

I obviously can't give you the 9 month employment stats minus the number of people who don't want to be lawyers, because there are no stats on people who don't want to be lawyers. We'll all just have to guess at that. I don't think there were very many people at my law school who didn't want to be lawyers. There were people who settled for "J.D. advantage jobs" but I can really only remember one person who didn't attempt to get an actual legal job. Maybe far more people at Emory and GW go to law school with no intention of becoming a lawyer. I doubt it. I would recommend prospective students look at the LST stats with the assumption that 99% of students tried to get a real legal job.

I'm not aware of a consensus view on the tax bomb. There is a hope that it will be fixed. That could happen. They could also scrap the whole program. 20 years is a long time from now. Anything could happen.

I think most people hope to be able to obtain a line of credit for a mortgage within 20 years of completing law school. They also hope to be able to obtain car loans, good credit cards, etc. They might also want a line of credit to help start a business, like a law firm. But if you're a prospective student who can say with confidence that they won't want these things within 20 years of graduation (its really more like 21 once you count the first 9 months when you can't make PAYE payments and at least 3 months to get your application through) then by all means don't worry about it.